MMC Jaegertron (Lockdown)

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  1. godotislate

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    Has anyone tried attaching the shield to the round pegs on his forearms? Does it fit? If not, would maybe adding a small rubber gasket make it tight enough?

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    One of the video reviews, I believe Peaugh's, showed that it wont attach to his arm and basically has no other function that being on his back and on the bottom of the jet mode. Seems odd. I will probably mod mine so it does peg on as a shield.
     
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    He didn't try putting it on the round peg, so I'm just curious.
     
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    The shield is a nod to Death's Head, who never actually took it off his back to use it like say Captain America. It kinda just sat there.
     
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    Oh I was thinking that wouldn't even make any sense to do if it was possible because the shield would be on the inside of his arm but I forgot he has independent forearm swivels too. If the forearms can turn all the way around so that round peg faces out, that's a good question. Maybe the shield can go on his arm after all.
     
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    I've tried it. It the peg hole is bit larger than the peg on the arm and hence it doesn't hold. However, it should a easy enough mod (or just use some tac to hold it there).

    Yes the arms can swivel to have the peg face outwards. I'll get a shot of how it will possibly look tomorrow. Time for bed now.
     
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    It seems like a weird oversight that the "shield" can't be used as a shield.
     
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    Yeah, I'm guessing they could've easily sized the pegs to match.

    I'd think a peg adapter for the shield to go on the arm should be a relatively easy project for someone to make for Shapeways, though.
     
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    It boggles my mind that these 3P companies dont consider all the options. I mean who said "Lets give this figure a shield, but lets not let him use it".

    I love MMC, but REALLY?! Nobody on the team said "Lets make the shield thing cool"? MMC isnt the only company to miss easy opportunities/fixes, but its seriously disappointing and makes me want to pass out of principle. The Leo Dux chest piece is the same thing. WTF.

    Why not take that extra minor step to make it awesome and nearly perfect rather than decide its simply good enough.

    If a company isnt going to do its best work, than why should I spend money on them?

    Disappointing...
     
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    I just view it as whether the toy as a whole is cool enough to me for what it costs. MMC have put a lot of extras into this that they haven't done with other figures, so this oversight doesn't seem egregious.

    And I assume the deal with the shield as Dek mentioned above: the shield is really just Anubis's, and just stays on his back.
     
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    Lame.
     
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    I've just received this thing, and here's my quick take: my copy feels more like a prototype than a finished product. This is the first time I've felt that the quality of a Reformatted product is at the level of some of Hasbro's more mediocre products. Where to start? The plastic lacks polish. I have Commotus, so I know what a black MMC product is supposed to look/feel like and this ain't it. There's some mini residual plastic flash in a number of places. The paint application is spotty, nothing serious but some unfortunate blending of green and black especially near the chest and other areas where green meets black. The shoulders suffer from the same issue that Peaugh pointed out. There are also places where the plastic don't seem to line up. There's also some mini "scratches" on the plastic in some places like near the shield. It's really hard to describe but it's like the plastic is "dirty".

    This is the WORST kind of figure. I'd rather have a figure where everything is good with one obvious QC problem (broken part) that can be fixed. This thing though screams MEDIOCRE workmanship. You can't point to a blindingly obvious QC issue, and yet you feel as if you are not getting your money's worth because of the issues above. It's bound to happen, but MMC finally has their Kronos.

    I also received Carnifex at the same time, and I think they should have called him Cannibal because he probably ate up this guy's budget.
     
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    I felt like that just from seeing peaugh's review. The paint and plastic don't look up to snuff.
     
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    I watched a review by (Ben?) and the minus points include:

    - The "trailer" is just a box with lights, weapons and heads for the Predacons (Who I don't have). That's a negative for me, anyway, due to the increased cost.

    - The figure can't transform with the hook-hand connected.

    - The shield/radar dish doesn't have anywhere to go in robot mode, just on the back. It can't actually be "used" as a shield.

    - No storage anywhere for his two "drift swords" in alt mode.

    -Loose shoulder connections.

    - Fair amount of back/wing kibble.

    - Canopy/cockpit seems to be a bit loosely connected together.

    - It's not a car (not a deal breaker, but...)

    How much is this going for? It would need to be cheap for me to consider replacing my Filmverse/CHUG version.

    However, the colours on this are amazing. i live the choice of green. I wish a KO company would make the recent film version, with a choice of G1, Animated/film hybrid inspired, those versions with a movable visor and gun-head, with a similar paint scheme as this toy. G1-ifiy the detailing and I think it would sell like hotcakes.
     
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    He does. Both normal hands are standard, while his hook and other accessories are stored in the "coffin" at the back. He can't transform fully with the hook or other hand accessories plugged-in.
     
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    I just unboxed mine and I have to agree the finish on it reminds me of the finish on Terminus Hexatron Shadow Emissary, where it's a smoothy shiny finish but not well done so it's kind of marred or tarnished or not really fully polished or something, so it looks a bit unfinished or something. The black plastic actually reminds me almost exactly of the Terminus Emissary plastic, in fact. So yeah, a bit of step backwards in the line, imho. Not bad per se, but underwhelming especially compared with Carnifex.

    update: yeah the finish on this thing is the worst kind because it's shiny-ish so it shows finger smudges even from clean hands, and it is covered in fine scratches from the factory if you look at it under light at an angle. argh. And getting it to stay all tabbed together in jet mode is a right pain. but it does look really striking as a jet design.
     
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    For anyone having trouble pegging things together in alt mode, make sure to tab in the feet first to the upper body and then swing the arms to tab to the top wings. The arms on mine aren't even pegging securely to the shoulders, but by doing the transformation in the order I've specified, things are holding well together, at least on mine.

    Man if only they polish this guy, he would be a pretty good figure. I am now really really weary of any Reformatted release that's not a major character.
     
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    Honestly the entire figure has some rather bizarre design and build quality choices. For example the biceps are very tight but the tolerances are such that folding up the arms for jet mode forces the forearms away from the shoulders slightly which means the wing assembly has a much harder time remaining tabbed in place and holding the whole mid section of the jet together.

    And then you have the friction hip joints for swiveling forward and back which until tightened with some material are weirdly too loose to properly support such a heavy upper body. So his stability is somewhat limited until you do that.

    But then you get to the knees which are so insanely tight folding up the legs to get them nicely tabbed in is a little more difficult than it should be.

    Meanwhile the head-gun canon is a two piece assembly, for... no reason at all. Like I can't even fathom why on earth it had to be a head and a gun barrel and wasn't molded solid or glued together.

    And the shoulders are designed in such a manner they bump in to his back parts unless you move them out the way.

    I still like Jaegertron a lot, he's a tonne of fun and looks visually really freaking cool. But from top to bottom I don't understand how his design ended up the way it did when their are seemingly a tonne of obvious solutions to all of his minor drawbacks. It feels like it was done by some new hire designer and this is his very first project as apposed to a seasoned designer like cassy or grif, but I'm pretty sure they both had a hand in him.
     
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    For what it's worth, if you separate the head-gun into two parts, they can store in the closed display case, so all the loose bits can be kept together.

    Also, all the comments about nowhere to store the swords in vehicle mode; just leave them in the back/nosecone sheaths when you transform him (once you've straightened them out obviously). I even managed to insert them there when he was in vehicle mode with little difficulty.
     
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