Like anything else expensive there will always be fakes of it. What's interesting with the TF community is KOs are typically openly welcomed. As opposed to say, the watch collecting community where fakes are scorned and heckled. Most of us are not watch collectors, so I won't get on that soapbox.

To answer the question if KOs should be banned would be tricky, because then you'd almost have to address 3P even if their designs are "original" and that would snowball into a huge legal paradox. If Hasbro isn't worried about it, neither should we.

 

Hey OP, are you the guy who stopped us from getting MP10 from Amazon UK a few years back for 35 Pounds? Cuz that error on their site got reported and it seems to fit your status quo.

(Good KO's are awesome and so are 3P figures. I want all the information I can get and I like how it's centralized in one forum. so no, don't ban it. censorship sucks and this forum doesn't owe HasTak anything)

 

imagine if it started there and was moved here

 

I'm very disappointed that no one did the Devestator 'Haha - No' gif in this thread.

 

-Fixed



Best Regards,

 

This video seems to sum up the general consensus:

https://youtu.be/zYv7KNxOub4

 

they are not ko's, theyre different molds

 

Thank you for this.  

 

Only if we put a rider on that bill To lengthen the weekend nights by 1 hour

 

Really, in a thread where every is majority universally agreed, you're gonna start a Symantec argument. You're a better troll than the OP.

Feeding the troll, they may be original designs, but they're still IP theft which found at the core of what the OP in his bitch ing fails.to relise.


And just for a history check, when the first 3rd party product became to appear, they were pretty much universally called knockoffs. Aga8n, an argument of systematic of what a knock off actually is.

 

This is a fan board, not affiliated with any official TF entity. There's no reason fans shouldn't be able to discuss whatever products exist.

 

no, that was customizer and known racist jin saotome

 

words have meaning. you seem very upset by that.

a third party toy with original engineering is not the same as a toy that is a direct copy, or knock off, of another toy. similar to how fan art is not a tracing of an original drawing.

there's a reason why bbts/tfsource/etc carry unlicensed stuff but not KO's. same reason why chimungmung had to shut down for a bit after getting dinged for selling KO's. there is a very clear difference between the 2 by definition.

as to the morals relating to them, that's completely up to you.

 

The "majority universally agreed"? I don't think universally means what you think it means... oh, and I agree with the guy who said new molds are NOT knockoffs... and listening to old podcasts from when Defender came out, most people called them garage kits back then.

 

A little off topic but I think 'IP Theft" isn't really a terribly useful term as it's not really a legal thing. Best I can tell "Intellectual Property Rights" is just a catch all term for a group of laws covering all sorts of things.

Why not be more specific so we actually know what the hell we're talking about. Most of the time when people talk about "IP Theft" I think they're referring to copyright infringement.

 

What about knock off do you guys not seem to comprehend? A knock off does not mean exact copy.

knock·off
ˈnäkäf/
nouninformal
a copy or imitation, especially of an expensive or designer product.
"knockoff merchandise".

That is the basic definition of KO. And when they IMITATE an already copy wrote image, it is BY DEFINITION a KO. It does not say exact copy. It says imitation. And that is what they are doing. imitating an already known, and owned image.

So, move on, it's not about what a KO is. It is the fact the OP is being a troll, trying to push people's buttons, and you guys are falling right into it.

Best Regards,

 

NO, it's not semantics... a knockoff in this context is at the VERY least based on an existing toy. Many of the first 3rd party TFS, such as I gears seekers and Faith Leader, WERE knockoffs in the traditional sense. Nobody called City Commander a knockoff though.

It IS IP infringement, but those aren't the same thing. If i reprint an IDW comic, maybe bigger or smaller with a new cover, or even with new drawings but the exact same script, that's like making a KO. If I make a completely original fanfic tf comic, that's IP infringement.

 

I think we've ran our course here.