Tarn's Identity Revealed MASSIVE MTMTE #55 SPOILER

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  1. NexusPrime

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    I enjoyed this issue, but the revolution comic added to it was placed right before the last page so didn't realise that what happened at the end of MTMTE 55 until a friend said what happened. Anyone else have this issue? I was reading on the mobile app.
     
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    No. That's just a timely excuse for potentially deep characters turning out to be 2 dimensional.

    Evil can be just as multi-layered and complicated as anything else, and when given the opportunity, is vastly more affecting that way. This Megatron arc, and everything post-war is immediate proof of that.

    The fact that we were given some insight into Tarn's twisted character, a hint of his internal conflicts and that his identity held a deeper truth, makes his reveal as someone we have no connection to very hollow.

    Your argument would have been better if it were that not changing when the world changed (giving up after the war), stopped his progression as a character because he was stuck in the past. There's at least some metaphor there.
     
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    An emotional and fitting issue to really cap things off. The story arch of Megatron was, I think, brilliant.

    Over the course of season 2 I honestly think Roberts lost a few readers. But when looking at the entire 55 issue run of this "story," it really is the best we've gotten from Transformers comics. I'm going to do my part to convince anyone who stopped reading this book to pick it up again and complete the story. It asks A LOT of readers, but it's so worth it.

    I'm in need of re-reading this again multiple times today. So much to take in, really.
     
  4. rattimus prime

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    Dude Glitchs helmet is the same as Tarns, even the parts surrounding the eye looks like the decepticon symbol
     
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    Oh man, what a beautiful conclusion to this arc. While I really enjoyed the DJD I love how their story was ended and I think it was totally fitting. They were essentially a bunch of creeps being led by a master creep and they all got pretty much what they deserved - with the cherry on top being Meg's words to Tarn "Everything you did was for nothing." One of the main reasons I enjoy villains is looking forward to seeing them defeated, even the ones I develop a bit of affection for like Kaon (in my toy shelf canon he defected and joined the Lost Light crew :p  )

    I also love that Overlord got away. I feel like there is a lot of story left for Overlord, and I'm guessing JR feels the same.

    I hate that Ravage died. I kind of suspected it was going to happen, but hoped it wouldn't because after three decades of not caring about the character AT ALL, MTMTE made me grow really attached to him. But that's one of Robert's specialties - and for me it really underlines his strength as a writer that he can take these 'nobody' characters and make me feel for them, make me mourn for them. That panel with Soundwave was gut-wrenching.

    Roller is back! I'm really looking forward to seeing more of him. I'm beyond pleased that he didn't turn out to be Tarn. That theory never sat right with me because it seemed too convenient, too unlike JR to make something that obvious. Hopefully Roller will be around for a while now.

    I'm anxious to see where Megatron will go from here. This is the most I've ever been interested in him as a character rather than just a somewhat two-dimensional 'leader of the Decepticons'. Ravage's death is really going to stick with him. I wonder if Ravage's words stick with him, too. And speaking of his dying words...did 'don't change back' mean change back to a Decepticon or don't change back to an Autobot since Megs was wearing a 'con badge when Ravage said it...
     
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  6. edgs2099

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    Roberts has said on twitter that it was purposefully written to be vague.
     
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    Mtmte #55

    This issue left a mixed sour taste in my mouth and zero enjoyment from it. I hardly feel anything for Ravage's death...in fact I am more apathetic towards any character that has died in this Arc. Seeing that the main cast is mostly whole and will live to see another day, thanks to Hasbro & Roberts, makes me a little frustrated with everything that has happened in these six issues. The fact that the team might get some more team members does not fill me with glee as I could care less about them.

    Overlord and Deathasauras just up and leave. The D.J.D get finished off by a Deus Ex Machina. The Tarn vs. Megatron fight was a letdown. And Tarn is revealed to be some hardly heard of guy that Roberts barely gave any real hints to. Megatron gets reunited with his mentor way too soon for my liking.

    Pretty much everything is now sunshine and rainbows from this point onwards. Won't be expecting anything neat or cool from Roberts for upcoming issues anymore.
     
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    Ha, that figures. I follow him on Twitter (I squeed like a teenage girl the first time he 'liked' one of my tweets) but I've been avoiding reading his tweets over the last couple days for fear of spoilers.
     
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    I'm confused why Tarn didn't use his voice (frequency thing, whatever) power against Megatron. Was he too cocky? That sounds pretty convenient.

    Such a powerful tool, used only, what, once or twice. What was the point of setting that up? I guess to... make Deathsaurus join the army? And kill Clip 'cause you gotta keep that Big Bad card up to date.

    I guess I really wanted Megatron to die.

    In the end, I was hoping Megatron would go back to the peace-brigade with the rest of the Decepticons, maybe kick Starscream's ass. But nope. New plot to make him stay an Autobot, chained to the misfits forever.

    Anyway, it was a good season overall. Can't wait for "Meanwhile, at the Lost Light."
     
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    maybe it takes a while to tune into the frequency, remember, they had been torturing Black Shadow for at least a few hours, and then they had planned the boarding of Deathsaurus ship. maybe he didnt have enough time or foresight with Megatron
     
  11. Byrin

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    My personal speculation is that hasbro pressed IDW to just kill off the DJD because 3rd party is doing them.
     
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    Yeah, perhaps he needed to stay calm to perform the voice trick, but he didn't need much preparation time-wise when he went to recruit Deathsaurus. Granted, Kaon infiltrated their comm. system. Pretty inconsistent.

    Obstacles like the Panic Bubble (I think?) were a reason Tarn couldn't get to Megatron, but they also had an encounter earlier. Maybe Megatron had a failsafe built into his many new frames just in case.

    I am pretty disappointed with Tarn's character overall. He wasn't a Big Bad he was set up to be.
     
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    Ah, but is the DJD truly dead?? Can other deception's assume the identities of the DJD as others have in the past?
     
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    I'm upset Ravage died.
    Couldn't Ratchet transplant Ravage's brain and spark into Dominus's body? He did just happen to have a catlike body lyin' around.

    Poor Ravage.
     
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    Then I guess Hasbro will have to press IDW to kill off every character in all of their books because 3rd party companies are pretty much making everyone. ;) 
     
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    To be fair, Ravage apparently died from just trauma from the looks of it, since we have seen plenty of robots get cut in half or lose major body parts and be just fine after some recovery as long as their core systems (spark, brain) were intact.
     
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    *tinfoil hate*

    Oh Remain in Light, how i miss thee right about now. Calling it now, the necrobot rescuing these individuals in the time line has caused Tarn to turn into Glitch whilst it was always Roller behind the scenes (time travel style). I'm telling you JRO is fooling us and were bashing him now and later were going to be celebrating this twist! its too obvious of a mistake for him to make and hes gonna be like gotcha suckers.

    This way Tarn gets killed but Roller lives!
     
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    I think he was alive when the mask came off (it wasn't fused to him like, say, Bane's was), but then Megatron crushed his head.

    I'm fairly sure now that the voice was only ever a trick. Tarn was really just using his outlier powers to do his work. And that panic bubble wasn't exactly conducive to concentrating on frequency.

    Also, Tarn was in a very different headspace on this op than with Black Shadow and Blip. Killing them was a job. Killing Megatron was personal.
     
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    My argument is just fine.


    It was painfully obvious since the DJD showed themselves what they are and where it goes. It's not Roberts's fault that the fanbase is crying because their headcanon did not match.

    Tarn never was multi-layered. The DJD always was a rather simple concept. Better executed than Turmoil with no doubt, but not much more elaborate.
     
  20. Fenrys

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    This is what I'm going with as well. Sure earlier in the series they established predestination paradoxes but other franchises have used both predestination and actual timeline alteration in tandem before. Both sets of rules are valid depending on the situation