I'm assuming someone else must have already done this edit, but here's the one I'd want to buy.

G1 headsculpt, all limbs thinned out, fusion canon a more manageable size....

 

You might want to shorten the hip skirt there

 

That looks really good. Yeah, I would shorten the hip skirt.

And one major reason why I prefer Apollyon is because his upper chest (pectoral area) is larger than his abdominal area. (both toon accurate and just looks better imo)

Despotron here has more emphasis on his rib cages.

And I also like how Apollyon has Walther P-38 gun detailing all around his upper arm/shoulder region. Not just a big block with the gun hammer sticking out on top.

 

looks good. The forearms are acceptable now when he isn't bending his elbow.

Those claws for hands though stand out more though. Hands have never been MT thing, if the reviews turn out good and I get this guy, the hands will be replaced. MP figures demand it.

Those legs clean up so well on Despotron. Those hip skirts need to fold back or something but looking through old Japanese Art of Megatron, they laid the hip kibble on heavy there. A little bulkier than show megaton as with the Japanese comic art.

I simply can't get enough Megatron. Apollyon will be my show Megatron and Despotron looks like All Hail IDW and Japanese TV Mag Megatron to me.
Cybertronian Megatron... Right here. There can never be enough Megatron.

 

That edit looks really nice and yes the gun details on the shoulders is something i think the old MP style (Hasui) used a lot (not the slavish cartoon accurate of recent MP releases), a good mix of the G1 cartoon adding details from the toy or the comic to create a more complex mold but faithful to the old design.

 

If i take your position wrong take this with a grain of salt. I always love XTB/KFCs designs and have all of the figures. My Apollyon out of the box was missing a left thumb and the right leg would not collapse. It will not transform. It is a pretty maimed version 2 statue. After 15 ignored emails to XTB I got the message. Are you saying wait for version 3 that will not benefit me?

For all the greatness that XTB/KFC is capable of and now showing in their recent figures this stain is still there for a lot of people. As to wanting an OS Megatron, I have MP-01 and hate the MP-10 scale set but that's just personal.

 

So do people who prefer Apollyons headsculpt like, not know what Megatrons head looks like?

I'm genuinely curious, because that seems to be the case. Because Despo's is infinitely better and infinitely more accurate in every way. Its quite confusing, like tonnes of people just decided to have wrong memories or something.

 

Eh, the artwork varies enough from frame to frame that you can probably find enough samples to support either version.

I don't know what you're driving at, because nothing about Apollyon's head sculpt looks wrong. Unless you're hung up on the puffy lips, to which I just chalk up as a bit of artistic license, when translating the simplistic 2D character models to 3D. I think it gives him a better sense of character than simply having his mouth be a line etched onto a flat plane, which is what true fidelity to his animated appearance would look like.

Either representation is 100x more accurate than what we got with MP-05, at any rate.

 

Apollyons face is too elongated
His nose is too narrow and too long
His chin is too curved
His eyes are too narrow
His under eyes have black, they shouldn't
His cheeks have awkward raised ridges
His lips are absurd like they were filled with 10 galons of botox
His helmet is too narrow

All of these problems do not exist on Despotrons head and if mt paints it correctly it'll be 90% accurate to the standard look of the animated head. The only major deviations are the OG mp megs head details they added to their helmet sculpt.

 

Again, I showed the comparison with both figures and picture of actual Megatron posted a while back to people who don't care and they all overwhelmingly thought Apollyon looks not only better but more like the reference material. I showed it to more people after my wife and daughter and there is not a single person who thought the MT version looked better or more accurate. This was also with no influence on my part, just showed the images and asked the questions, they had no idea about my opinions.

But again, it doesn't matter, I like the look of both, I'll get this if it ends up as good or better than it looks now and on clearance if it happens.

 

Lets not get all personal and claim you have a better understanding of how someone percieves or remembers their past memories.
I dont see then same things you saw when you were 10 years old, and its no different to the next poster or the one after that !!

We see what we see and we interpert that personally, and thats what we do as people !! Thats why when i look at your post, i think, how rude is that to assume you have a better understanding of what i remember or what anyone else does!!!
While all in all, you could be the nicest guy in the world, but i dont know that do i, because I didn't ask before i assumed that, just by reading your post !!!! ...?

I think Apollyon looks better, and has a better face sculpt, thats not an argument, a debate or even a reason to assess my mental health state !!! Its an opinion and its my opinion !!!

I like Apollyon, i like Despotron, i llke Hegemon, so what !!!
I will be buying Despotron because you know what, it loks like Megatron whether or not he looks like it.

 

Looks like different designer, gun dog, hellfire, despotron as compared to cupola and Ironwill.
One is more IDW Pat Lee and the other more toon.
Seriously Masterpiece style is either more toon or toon mix with toy no other way round.

 

Can you please show what measurements and calculations you used to arrive at the 90% result?

 

What is that add on to the CW Megatron and where can I get it? And also, is that the Hasbro or TT version?

 

I go by how Megatron looked in the 1986 animated movie, because that is arguably where the characters looked their absolute best. (the ones that were actually featured in it)



He features a fat lower lip in the movie . Bigger than the average tfer mouth, I think. It helps give him that brawler thugish look. Despotron's lips are too thin in comparison to the artwork. Which causes many people to interprete his face as being too stereotypical anime-looking.

Unfortunately, Apollyon's face is painted a metallic silver, which accentuates the lower lip's shadow, and is probably what annoys a lot of people. His face should ideally be in a whiter color, like MP-05 Megatron. XTB also didn't do a good job painting his eyes. But he still has a more accurate face, and a more accurate helmet. Despotron's helmet silhouette practically has no curvature when viewed from near the front. It's supposed to look like a bell shape. Not a thimble. Very obvious when looking at the image ref.

Apollyon's hard sculpted cheek lines helps make the lines stand out, as they are an important part of his face design. Those lines are so prominent in how he is drawn. On Despotron, you can barely notice the lines, which makes him look younger.

Look at how Desptron's eyes are triangular. Megatron isn't depicted as having that eye shape. And Desp's face looks uncharacteristically young, which kind of clashes with his roided out tank proportions. I colored in his black 'unibrow' to see how it might look like. It helps to make him look a bit older. But it looks a big too big. And that is all sculpted space between the eyes and the forehead area, so I don't know how MT could color it differently.

When Frank Welker auditioned for the part of Megatron, he looked at a drawing of Megs, and he interpreted the character as being in constant pain, angry, and with a very scratchy voice. This was all from him drawing inspiration off of the illustration, what he thought the character would sound like. To me, Apollyon's face and body matches Frank's Megs voice better. It's weird to me, envisioning the big muscly jock-looking Despotron speaking with his edgy high-pitched G1 Megs voice whenever he scolds Starscream.

 

Nice post Psychoshi! Apollyon nailed Megatron's head pretty well imho. If I were to nitpick I'd point only to the chin which should be straight on the bottom edge not curved. And really nitpicky, but maybe the edge of the helmet above his eyes should be slightly v shaped downwards in the centre as depicted in his side profile view, rather than a straight cut.

Despotron I don't mind the face, but the helmet is really off imho. The shape as you say and I really don't like the added greeble all over it.

 

Honestly after they ignored you, i will not blame you for how you feel. I totally understand your resentment here.

I cant say there will be a version 3, but if there is, there should be tons of fixes. But unlikely it will happen since doing that will royally piss off alot of early adopters ala V1 and V2. Just my opinion.

Now, to the discussion at hand, i know people have accused me a shill for XTB and frankly, they can think what they want. But i will say that i am as interested as Despotron as the next person. Aside the Pat Lee-ness look to Despotron, he scratches my animesque itch. He has those dynamic super robot like stature. I will still buy him and love him like Apollyon. The difference is, he will be in another shelf, with the IDW Prime from either GCreations or Generation Toys.

There is no right or wrong. If you like G1esque look, my opinion is that Apollyon fits the bill. And if you like the G1 modernized dynamic look, Despotron provides it in spades.
Again, this is only my opinion. The last time i gave one, i was told that my opinion was baffling.

But it is okay, we all can agree to disagree.

 

Bro,...you summed up collecting toys +1  

 

lose the detailing on the helmet, and the head would look a lot better. Just sayin'

I like it as-is, though. It's not like I'll be able to see the surface detailing when it's in my case, and I'm a few feet away.

 

This is a better figure for sure (as an Apollyon owner), proportions are better, more dramatic, stylized etc. Doesn't necessarily make it a better G1 Megatron representation.

The raspy voice, the leadership, the way Megatron sees the world all point to a leader who has been through a lot and seen all sorts of war. This is where Appolyon's face sculpt and physique capture megatron over the maketoys version. I prefer Despotron but all I see is a youthful body builder physique which to me isnt accurate

I would imagine the build will be better than Apollyon though. Was disappointed in that aspect