If and when TFs gets rebooted

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  1. tonyformer

    tonyformer Well-Known Member

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    If and when the movies get rebooted, I for one really hope we go back to TFs that actually look like their alt mods and are a bit more blocky IF the alt mode was. Like example, Brawl from movie 1. His robot mode matched his alt mode. OPs original robot mode from movies 1-3 far better matched his alt mode. I for one really like the look and feel of the Transformers Universe Game designs. I dont think the game did well and is no longer active but the designs, I thought would be very cool if made into movie designs.

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  2. Autobot Burnout

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    Five year gap and no more goddamn cinematic universes. Those things are like poison to franchises without planning years in advance from the start.
     
  3. tonyformer

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    I agree
     
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    Bayverse has to wrap up first, then give it about 5 years after that.
     
  5. Ironhide1234

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    God, the years ahead are long.
     
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    EpicTransformer The Quiet One...

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    I also hope we get more villains that are like Sentinel and Lockdown who don't just growl and destroy
     
  7. kaijuguy19

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    I wouldn't mind it if they decide that for the designs they look into IDW and the TF Universe games for inspiration since they do a great job at keeping them grounded and realistic looking yet retain the classic elements.

    Also I hope that they don't just use G1 purely for the story and characters because it would be awesome if they also have things from BW,UT,TFA,TFP,etc.
     
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    I think Every Character should have themselves their own distinct design, hell even the cannonfodder should (NO DRONES).
     
  9. tonyformer

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    One thing i really want to see in the eventual reboot is, for the Bots to actually have their own no name fodder troops. You know like the standard G.I. JOE soldier or like the rebel soldiers in Star Wars. But if like to see Bots like Hound or Ironhide actually have their own units with a few other named Bots but most of them just no names that are there for big battles and to mostly die so all the Big names Autobots don't have to die in every movie.
     
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    I think it is more when than if. Tastes change so at some point to make money the studio will have to roll with changing times. They might not call it a reboot like how they attempting to not call Star Trek a reboot, but it would just be playing with words.

    But new designs would be a big plus to a reboot. Something like a Starscream design that doesn't try to completely redesign the original look would be nice. Some color would be nice as well, sure it might not be realistic for some alt modes, but you are already having to suspend a ton of disbelief with transforming robots from another planet.
     
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    Having never seen these designs before, I really like them.
     
  12. Timothy.R

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    i agree.. in age of extinction it seems like they started to lose what was special about transformers.

    the robots barely look like their alt modes. that's terrible. and to top it off, the bad robots didn't even transform, the disintegrated, floated around, then morphed into robots that only shared the color scheme of their alt modes.

    it just seems lazy to me. it seems like they just designed robots and made them fit the alt mode rather than choosing an alt mode and designing a robot mode based on it.

    the designs for the first 3 movies weren't too mad, i quite liked most of them. but age of extinction started to lose me. i mean, they look alright, but like i said, they started to lose what makes transformers special.

    and lets face it, the toys would probably turn out a bit better as well.. well, i guess that point is moot considering the super cheap direction hasbro has been going with the toys.

    i really wish takara did more with their dual model kit figures. dotm prime is fantastic, i wish they gave us more of them.

    anyways, along with design changes, as i've said a whole lot, i want the movie to be based on the actual transformers and have the story follow the transformers.
     
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    If we do get a Reboot, I'd like to see a Wrecker Spinoff film, That would be pretty awesome.
     
  14. ChaosDonkey

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    With all the movies announced, we will wait at least 15 years.
    And that is of we are lucky
     
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    I believe they would make it more g1.

    It's not quaranteed that the new movies would make good on box office, if it's below expectations, they would probably reboot it a few years later.
     
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    the ksi bots intentionally transformed that way..it was a stylistic choice to show that they were different from cybertronian transformers...as you noticed, lockdown transformed regularly..personally im ok with that...i dont see the correlation into thinking cybertronian transformers are all a sudden gonna transform like the ksi bots.
     
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    It's really just exaggerated hyperbole throwing more fuel onto misguided fires that didn't need their fans flamed in the first place.

    Anyone with half a brain can see that EVERY Transformers movie still has PLENTY of onscreen, traditional transformations...but HATERS GONNA HATE and all that.

    :-\
     
  18. Ash from Carolina

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    I don't think it would be 15 years because Paramount doesn't have a lot of movies burning up the domestic box office to take it's place. A place like Marvel/Disney they could let a superhero dud sit 15 years because they have 100's of heroes to chose from in the mean time. But Paramount their choices are more limited right now.

    The model I'd expect is something more like Sony and Spider Man. They had success but things had to change as people left. Amazing Spider Man wasn't exactly Amazing but they thought hey with this next film we can spin off movies like crazy. But after the Amazing Spider Man 2 box office and angry fan backlash it was nope let's scrap all that and just reboot with Spider Man Homecoming.
     
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    I believe they were referring to the currently slated upcoming sequels, prequels, and spinoffs taking up the bulk of that 15 year span of time, rather than the movie franchise simply being left to languish in obscurity for the duration before any hypothetical reboot.
     
  20. Autobot Burnout

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    The amazing thing is that I believe the lower righthand corner 'Transformers Universe' logos sets these as being around the early days of Prime, before the whole Aligned concept went to shit and Prime hadn't yet totally tried to sever ties to the High Moon games (if you look closely, Bumblebee looks like a version of the Prime incarnation on the body of the WFC version right down to the wheel hub arms, while Ratchet is more clear-cut in the Prime version's head on the WFC body).

    I think they spent more time on the floaty magic metal stupidity than actual transformation sequences, given how not even all the Autobots got one full transformation sequence that time around.

    Agreed - the film reeks of this. Prime somehow changes to a much smaller truck alt. mode but retains the exact same robot mode (when the whole argument back in 06/07 for not making him a cab over was explicitly due to not having enough mass for a properly sized robot mode), Bumblebee changes his robot mode to mock Stinger but still turns into a Camaro while Stinger turns into a one-of-a-kind Pagini supercar, Drift inexplicably has a fucking helicopter mode as well as a Bugattii, Crosshairs both doesn't have any recognizable vehicle parts in robot mode while simultaneously wearing most of it on his back as some kind of metal fabric trenchcoat, and Galvatron is just so full of bullshit in not having been designed to even physically work as a toy that the toy itself is literally the movie Galvatron design with the entire alt. mode strapped to his back.
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    For me, that's mainly why I despise this asinine 'knights' theme bullshit that started with AoE. There's more focus on making the Transformers so much more streamlined and feature more organic curvature instead of hard mechanical profiles that there simply is no integration of the vehicle mode bits in a way that isn't either outright vanishing or becoming so deformed as to be scarcely recognizable.

    Like, this isn't even related to the Transformers films - it's the character 'Stel' from that awful Green Lantern film - but it honestly looks like something that could be in a Transformers film
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    Though I think that says more about how painfully generic the movie designs are becoming by losing any real vehicle part integration in the robot modes.


    Oh, have you seen the Fifth Element Leia yet?
    Cheap may not be the bottom of the barrel anymore when it comes to Hasbro :lol 

    Also agreed on my part. This constant BS about how the Transformers somehow have been directly related to a growing list of things in human history (Hoover Dam technically because it was supposedly created to hide the AllSpark, the Pyramids somehow concealed a giant star harvesting thing in addition to whatever they found the Prime Tomb inside of, the space race/Apollo Program and possibly Chernobyl - can't remember if they just said the disaster was caused by the fuel cell or it was just planted bait by Laserbeak), the stupid extinction of the dinosaurs to harvest them for metal or something, and now fucking Stonehenge because why else would they film at the site of an ancient monument if it wasn't going to fill some similar role ala the pyramids?) feels more like alien conspiracy theories about lizards. Except replace the lizards with Decepticons I guess.

    That would be a tall order given how the Wreckers in the franchise usually require a lot of knowledge beforehand as to why they exist as a sub team in the first place. The movie Wreckers were, appropriately given their alt. modes, more like a pit crew mechanic team than hardened badasses sent in as a last resort.

    As it stands, the films already have trouble giving enough screen time for the main Autobots to develop pronounced subtle nuances or character tics that fill them out past generalized stereotypes. I do not believe the movie format could support something on the level of a Last Stand type story (the only Wreckers focus story I really know well enough to use as a comparison point, admittedly).

    If a film bombs hard enough, or generates enough bad opinion in the movie-going audience, they'll kill the franchise prematurely. This is still evident today. Terminator: Genisys was so unpopular in the domestic market, it may have actually killed the franchise as well as the obvious planned sequel because the film still pulled over $400 million total box office - the second highest of any Terminator film and only surpassed by T2 Judgement Day. And this was the film where Arnie came back to be everybody's favorite accented silver boned killing machine.

    It certainly doesn't help that this was only a film from last year and it was a Paramount release - so the assumption I guess is they desperately don't want anything remotely close to this happening again with the next Transformers film.