Not really. If its going to be available internationally, it can't be on Go90, because countries like Australia don't have Go90.

 

By being well-used in ONE single piece of media first before half-assedly forced into EVERYTHING.

At this rate, it's not going to surprise me if she's going to be the first officially announced new character in TF5.

 

That's not saying much; every character that's in vogue gets announced in the TF movies and ends up sucking. Shockwave, Drift, the Dinobots...you name it.

 

There's a difference between putting a new character half the fanbase* don't like in something to let them develop (Drift in MTMTE, which paid off big time), and making a new character half the fanbase don't like the poster-child for the entire series.

*Yes, I know, I don't have actual stats, I'm winging it.  

 

Honestly, how would you know how much "character" she has when you aren't even reading IDW's comics?

 

You can't compare Optimus Prime with a character portrayed only recently and in only two media - one comic ongoing and one cartoon, and is not even sharing characterisation between the two.
The problem with WB is that she's made into a posterchild, except:

1 - this franchise has more legacy female characters that could be probably used instead of her,

2 - writer working at her big premiere in comic books rather failed at making WB interesting enough to carry on any title.

 

Uh...Drift's development went down the toilet with AOE and RID.

 

To be fair, she doesn't have much character in IDW's comics either.  

 

 

That's my beef. If she was an interesting, well-written character who's initial intro left me wanting to to know more, it would be pretty great to learn more about her. Right now, she's a forgettable doormat. Or she would be, if Hasbro wouldn't keep ramming her down our throats.

Optimus earned his place from the start. Windblade has been the focus of two miniseries and a one-off comic in less than two years. That is more than enough time to get an interesting new character off the ground.

If you want to talk about femmes specifically, we got more character development for Nickel, Nautica, and Firestar in a matter of pages than Windblade has gotten as the titular character across multiple miniseries. Aileron is great example of a character who was introduced and slowly worked into more important/interesting positions.

A legacy femme would work just as well, but would suffer the same treatment under Scott's pen. This is a writing skill issue; she just cannot write on the level needed to convey the characters and concepts she's been given by IDW. And yet now she and Windblade are getting an ongoing that's expected to stand beside ExRID and MTMTE. Bring in a better writer to make us forget this awful first impression, and Windblade could be salvaged.

If I seem salty, this is why. It really rustles my jimmies that this boring mess of a character is being made into the female transformer. We deserve better.

 

Problem with that theory is that most TF characters didn't exactly start off strong the first time around or haven't been used enough to earn their place in the fan favorite sections. After all did anyone really thought much about guys like Whirl,Tailgate,Swerve,etc before getting major roles in IDW? Those guys have been around in the brand since the beginning yet it took years to finally give them more depth and personality as a result. Does that mean they deserve to be scorned and bashed just because they didn't exactly make a strong impression the first time around? Not every TF character's going to make an impression the same amount as guys like Optimus.

Those Drift's aren't the IDW Drift. They're two separate versions of Drift that resides in each of their respective universe and have different things going for them. That's not the same as developing a single version of a character and having a misstep with them. If you're strictly talking about stories that actually have to do with IDW Drift only then yeah you'd be right on that but it's not.

1. As much as I'd love to see more legacy fembots be featured I don't see how we should just leave out Windblade entirely to do it. Whatever you like her or not,Hasbro wants to make use of her exposure and title as being fan made as much as they can otherwise what's the point of having a fan made bot contest if the winning bot's not going to be feature much as all?

2. Most people don't share this opinion though.

 

See below:

Everything I have heard about WB is that her plots usually go "big situations happen and WB tags along".

 

"Fan made thus must be wanted by every fan" is an assumption based on every fan in existence voting for the character.

Newsflash - the cheesy blackredder Wapanese Waifu Weeabot wasn't voted by every fan and this is why she generates a negative backlash - she's shoved everywhere, but not everyone in the fandom was signing for this.

She's not deserving exposure more than long unused canon female characters - some of them waiting decades to be finally revisited (or made at all).

Care to quote a proof?

Like numbers?

Because this is by far the most common criticism of this character and she couldn't even carry her own miniseries. Isn't it now relaunched as an ensemble book, because WB was not enough to carry it?

Where did you find this "most people" as if you had any hard numbers besides your opinion?


I got it, her design looks nice as a toy, but toys are already there, so how about updates to Elita and others, instead of after two comic series, two toys and a third incoming STILL promoting little miss fanwank nobody instead of finally moving to other female characters?

Seriously, that's not how you do representation even if you want more female presence in fiction - not by hoarding everything on a one and the same character.

Is every female fan supposed to identify with Sailor Jet? And what if they don't?
Just because her design strikes some anime fetishes it isn't making WB end of all possible female TFs, really.

 

Exactly, just because she was a fan-vote character dosnt mean every fan wants to see her all over the place.

Here's a crazy thought, why not have the Combiner Wars show star a, oh I don't know, combiner?

 

Never said she was voted by every fan and I'm fully aware that not everyone liked how it came out because thinking that would be stupid. But let's be really honest here since when did all of the TF fandom agree on ONE thing that the brand throws at us? Can you name me one thing that we can all agree on? Point is fans are ALWAYS going to have a different opinion on something out of the franchise even if what they throw at us is amazing. Happened with Beast Wars,happened with both RID and the Unicron trilogy,happened especially with the movies,happened with Animated and currently in the Aligned universe with Prime and RID15.

So yeah while there's going to be negative feedback on Windblade there's also going to be the opposite feedback of her so acting like every fan shares the same negative opinion of her is just as stupid as the other way around. Also Hasbro's not forcing you to like her.

Sites and people outside of TFW2005 for example because so far this site seems to have the most hate on her.

Look I'm not saying she's done perfect. They are things I would change about her personally but at the same time I get why other people like her and even if I didn't,why would I waste my time wishing that she gets forgotten? That's not exactly going to bring more of the legacy fembot characters either so can't we find a way to have both her and the legacy bots be featured together instead of bashing her for how she looks? Also not every fan of her thinks she's the ultimate fembot character and most don't think of her as being a role model to everyone.

 

And nothing you write really justify this character being shoved everywhere, so?

If you understand that she wasn't voted by everyone, then you act pretty weird being surprised at people disliking her being placed in every possible media.

Hasbro might not be able to force anyone to like WB, but sure as hell they do force WB to everyone as the definitive female TF - of which she's a rather unsuited example.

And yes, time and resources spent on promoting Windblade could be used for other characters.

 

Look I get that not everyone voted for her. That's the point of voting. Not everyone will get or like what was voted upon and I know that some people aren't liking her being exposed this much. I was around there when she was revealed. I just think that she's getting more bashing then I think is warranted. Also since when did Hasbro say that she's the definitive fembot character for the TFs? Just because she's being promoted doesn't tell people that she's ultimate fembot.

 

She's getting as much bashing as she warrants.

The irony is that she's getting this bashing precisely because she's overpromoted, not because of anything else. This isn't a backlash against the character, more against showing it everywhere when possible.

And yes, she's IS promoted as the poster child fembot, anyone with a working gray matter can see it. She was a first female figure since a very long time, then touted with a series made by a female creative team.

Unfortunately, Scott's hardly Gail Simone hence the end product is a bit on the "meh" side.

Why instead of this meh with WB nobody could come with something like Amanda Conner Power Girl or Harley Quinn except with female TFs? Something that is actually fun to read?

 

Think about it this way, Eventually Hasbro will get tired of Windblade and will retire her if she really doesn't generate anything.

She's most likely going to be in TF5 at some point, let's just see where this goes first.

 

I thought her character was all right. Not exceptional, but still good.

You're right about the first bit, but as for Drift, isn't this the same? RID Windblade and IDW Windblade are completely different, and this is also a different Windblade because its clear it won't simply adapt the IDW comics. Aren't people complaining about her being in everything outside IDW?

Although I do agree with the last two bits.

Not really. She's more of the investigator type who actively tries to make Cybertron a better place, but she's way too weak and nice to stop herself being taken advantage of.

At least that's what I got.






And then there's a bunch of other comments discussing the same thing, so I'll just summarise.

Most of the fandom did in fact vote for her, and honestly I think people should try to give her a chance before shouting out how much you hate her. But yeah, the original toy is pretty bad, but hopefully the RID one will be better.

As for the legacy fembots, they may be waiting but honestly how much character did they have again? Elita one barely had any, Arcee was okay but she doesn't count as she had a great representation in Prime, and the other G1 Fembots were essentially cardboard cutouts that are barely remembered. Tell me ONE thing you can remember about Elita One that isn't generic.

Also, about the whole 'Mary Sue' trope thing, that doesn't make a difference. Whether WB is an MS or not isn't the point. A trope isn't bad, it's just when its an excuse does it become bad. Rey from Star Wars is technically more of a Mary Sue but is she a bad character? HELL NO! Meanwhile characters may not follow tropes but they end up bland and boring.

 

ALL MY FRIENDS ARE DEAAAAADDDDD!

Brilliant, simply brilliant.  

Rey is a pretty bland character, if you ask me. And like WB is really just kinda there, being carried by the plot rather than driving it. WB suffers from this as well from what I have been told.

And I re-iterate my last point, why not make the COMBINER Wars show about a COMBINER rather than the Weeabot?