I enjoyed the interview. I have high hopes for the Movie, but even if it's less than great, one day I'll own the DVD and still love Transformers. I was like that before Mr. Bay and will be like that when the final dust settles. I guess that's all that really matters. Let Mr. Bay do his best, or worst.

 

It's good to see that quote about Peter Cullen's face/voice cleaned up. It was very confusing as originally published.

 

Actually, I'm not "bent out of shape", if your whole purpose was to just rile people up well you definitely failed with me. The point is you can't call people hypocritical by questioning their name calling and then turn around and name call yourself. Unless you don't mind being called hypocritical.

You were the one who got offended by the term "fanboy" not I. Call me what you like, it's really quite laughable if that is how you try to prove a point. You should stick your tongue out to make the immaturity of your "You're a fanboy too" comment complete.

 

I wasn't offended about anything. I'm a fanboy just like everyone else on this board. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of the people on this board calling others fanboys when they are on the same board discussing and collecting the same thing.

Again, I wasn't referring to you at all. I'm not trying to rile anyone up. You're the one who keeps responding directly to me acting like I was directly referring to you. Sorry if you catch feelings over a message board. I see you're just an internet tough guy. It's cool. I'll just leave it at that.

 

So I take it you refuse to see the hypocricy of singling out a group of people and calling them "idiotic" while at the same time denouncing said group for name calling?

Like I said, no offense takin bro, I'm just making observations here. Keep the names coming  

 

The problem is, a ton of board members ridicule other people for their opinion, and throw out the term "fanboy" as if it were something derogatory. Example:

Person 1: "I don't like the movie designs. They're ugly."
Person 2: "Stupid fanboys. If you don't like it, don't post here."

This type of thing is happening on a daily basis. When did it become alright to ridicule someone for a differing opinion? And then, why be surprised when that person reacts in anger? People just need to start respecting each others' opinions. If you can't fight the urge to verbally attack a person or group of people, you're the one with the problem.

 

Hypocritical much?

Ask the people who throw out stupid terms like "Kool Aid Drinker" just because someone likes the look of a movie they don't.

 

He is also, believe it or not, human. The first time someone called me an "douche" I'd let it go. Probably the second time too time.

But by the 100th time, I'd be mightily pissed and want to start dishing it back. Bay could say a lot worse about the more extreme elements of TF fandom but hasn't. It's not as if he responds like for like here: For every few hundred "bay raped my childhood/ is scum/ is a douche" comments we occasionally, not continually, get a "whining fanboys" comment back from him (and I know which I think are more justified!).
In the beginning, Bay tried to rationally explain why he was doing what he was doing to update the TRANSFORMERS. He wasn't nasty, beligerent or condescending about it, but the responses that immediately came back at him were.

Oh look, I'm defending Bay again. Aren't I naughty?

 

That's just as bad. I don't condone that at all. It's not cool or fun. All the more reason to NOT immitate that kind of behavior. Everyone needs to be responsible for themselves. The moderators have a tough enough time as it is. We should all be able to coexist without throwing stones.

 

I completely agree. I've seen him described as everything from a douche to a cokehead on these boards, PURELY because some people don't like his movies. It's nothing short of pathetic behaviour from a bunch of absolute children.

 

I've seen that interview before, but for the love of everything holy I can't remember where I read this. I think it was on the Official movie board. And personally I agree with the fanboy comment. And honestly the only reason to find it offensive is if it hits close to home.

Besides that "fanboy" is used so much it's gotten to the point it really means nothing now days

QFT

You can't poke the bear then complain when the bear smacks you back. I'm not fully behind the whole "eye for and eye" philosophy. But to be fair, if one is going to post ad hominem attacks and slanderous remarks about a person. Don't be too surprised when that same person fires back in kind. And if members of the online fandom can refer to him as a coke head, infer assasination or say stuff like "I wish his mother aborted him" Then don't complain about him taking cheap shots

 

Plus anything Michael Bay has said is the epitome of politeness itself compared with just one sentence from Don Murphy.

 

I admit I've said one or two unthoughtful things about Michael Bay, instigated by his criticism of the Transformers fanbase. I never blamed Bay for the designs. That's ILM's fault, if anyone's, and Hasbro probably had the final say in what made it to the screen. My problem with Bay is that to me he comes across as being extremely arrogant. He seems to be trying more than a little too hard to be hip and cool. My biggest issue with Bay as the director of this film is that it seems his heart isn't in it. He practically described the Transformers as something to be looked down upon. Ever since he hopped on board, the hype has been more about Bay than the Transformers themselves. "A Michael Bay Film" is annoying to see on every TV ad and trailer. It's just too arrogant for my taste. There's nothing worse than someone who tries to sell themselves. I agree with whoever said "Let the work speak for itself." Furthermore, I'm just not a fan of Bay's style of directing. His films seem impersonal, and artificial-- constantly reminding me that "this is a movie," and not allowing me to become wrapped up in the illusion. Personally, I would love a David Lynch-style Transformers film. Not completely, but just something closer to that. Mix in a pinch of Dark City, or something like that. Having big explosions just for the sake of having things blow up does not excite me. From what I've heard of the script and seen from the footage of this movie, it seems very bare-bones as far as the Transformers are concerned. It feels similar to how the X-men movies felt, where there wasn't really any connection to the characters, except maybe Wolverine (in this case, most likely Bumblebee). From comments that Bay & Co have made, it seems they don't believe the concept of the Transformers is very accessible to a wide audience, and as a result the material has been dumbed down somewhat. I guess I'm just a hard sell... but then again, I seem to like movies everyone else hates, like the Star Wars prequels, Dune, and Spider-man 3.

I'm going to cut myself off there. I'm currently suffering from the worst ear/nose/throat/chest infection I've ever had, and my typing is probably a bit incoherent. Let me tell you -- having fluid in both middle ears is NOT pleasant.

 

It is common practice to display the name of a director in advertising and such. It makes more sense when that director has made blockbuster movies in the past.

Do you think he is trying to be hip with his movie making, or he is trying to portray himself as hip? When I see the man interviewed, he seems quite well grounded.

I thought the X-men movies had a good connection to the core of the characters.

For the record I loved the Star Wars prequels and Spider-man 3 (not so much Dune).

And, I am sorry if it seems like I'm picking on you, but I really don't understand the remark about the explosions.

Every iteration of Transformers has featured bad guys that cause problems by blowing things up and good guys who solve problems by blowing things up.

I don't think there can be enough explosions in this movie.

Sorry for you ear infection -sounds horrible.

 

Every Bay movie I get on DVD, I listen to the commentary (if there is one, obviously).
On THE ISLAND he comes across as thoughtful, interested and very passionate about the movie. I haven't heard anything to make me think he's trying to be hip in any way. At the point in his career he's at, he surely won't take a film on unless he's interested in it (He turned SUPERMAN RETURNS down, remember!).
And I read (don't ask me where) that the "A Micheal Bay Film" tag actually helps sell a movie.

 

I must say that I hate every MB movie witht the exception of The island. Why do I hate them? Because they all feature 3 distinct MB elements...1. Pointless action scenes about shit blowing up for no reason at all. 2. Very nice expensive cars that get totally trashed, and 3. The thinest of plot lines if even present. It looks like TFs has a MB film is going to have all three of these elements. It might work and it might not, but I'm gonna wait and see. Nice interview though...

 

Well judging from this fan's experience, Michael Bay is the opposite. And unlike you he's ACTUALLY interacted with him. And any "supposed" attacks he's made towards the fanbase are simply percieved attacks by those who his remarks were directed towards. Mainly detractors say he's attacked the fansbase. Which is ironic since detractors attacked him online in a variety of ways

And I've yet to see a trailer/TV spot for a movie where the Director's name isn't advertised in some manner

That's true, Michael's definitely been polite during all this. Much more then any detractor's that's for damn sure

 

From what I've seen in the video of the script writers on yahoo, the story looks likes it's in good hands, whether or not it will be or is conveyed will be seen soon.

As far as "Pointless action scenes about shit blowing up for no reason at all" I can see your point, but IMHO, if you were to have a Transformers movie, wouldn't you want a director who is very good at blowing things up and setting up action sequences?

And the Autobots and decepticons all consist of expensive vehicles.

That being said, I think Michael Bay just might be the perfect chouce for this movie. Why write him off before the movie is even released?

 

No, Shakespearean is quite on the money.
Shakespeare himself employed archetypes, but it was the way he used them that made them unusual (for the time.)
The heroes and villains destinies are intertwined. Prime and Megatron have a relationship that goes back before the movie begins.
The motivations of the villain are explored as much as the hero.

 

I saw it before too.

What really bothers me is his insistence on "realistic" when the core of the thing is so fucking far out to begin with. I don't understand the need to water it down to "believable" levels. How could ever in any way be believable? I say go all out, full on sci-fi/fantasy. If people go see the talking robots from space movie and scoff at how unbelievable it is, they're fucking stupid for going in expecting otherwise imo.