Um, you have clearly gotten your facts mixed up. The Heisei suits were rubbery and dead looking. Hell, Destoroyah could barely even move. Everything was a laser light show in the late 90s. Now you are right about Orga and Megaguirus, as they do look dull, but they still can move far better than anything in the Heisei era after Ghidorah. Mothra and Battra are flat out plastic looking.

Also, GMK is one of the best looking Godzilla movies when it comes to the effects work. And the script was clearly a Godzilla movie. Just because it tried to do something new doesn't mean it was just some script with Godzilla slapped on. Hell, it did something far more original with Godzilla than any Godzilla movie had since 1971. However, you say it looks worse than the movies from the 60s? The 60s were the best era of Godzilla movies period. The effects and miniatures from the 60s are superior to any other decade of Godzilla movies.

Final Wars was full of horrible CGI, bad music, and battles that were way too quick. The only thing that saves this movie from total **** is its action choreography.

Plots were too far out? How is that any different than a cloned plant with Godzilla DNA, an evil Mothra, time traveling Brits with three Gremlins that someone become a three headed dragon, a man trying to kill Godzilla with a single bullet, a psychic girl with telekinesis, and a space clone?

Have you even bothered to watch my Godzilla reviews? I go into full details and show why the sets of the Heisei are lifeless.

 

Considering Legendary intend for their Godzilla to take on King Kong, I don't expect they'll be looking to increase the size all that much.

Agree.

They also filmed the suitmation very badly, making poor attempts to tie it in to the live action, and almost no attempt to frame the action from a human perspective. It just looked like what it was: slo-mo footage with ridiculous pyrotechnics filmed by cameramen the same scale as suitmation actors.

You're right that the scale certainly would've limited the detail they could include in the miniatures. I think it went beyond that though, it's like there was a disconnect between the artistry that was going into the effects, and how the results served the movies. It was only when the Gamera movies came out that people started to realize that these issues weren't inherent to the suitmation technique.

The difference this time is that there's been so much technological progress that they should be able to make everything look so much better than the suitmation of twenty years ago. They can get smaller cameras in there, they can use 3d printing to increase the set detail, and they can use modern compositing to mix live action with miniatures so much easier than ever before.

well let's face it: part of the reason for so many reboots, is because they jumped the shark every other movie. Let's hope this time they pace themselves and work out a plan in advance.

 

Not talking about movement, I'm not saying the Heisei era was perfect, I mean look at Godzilla's legs wenn he makes more elaborate movements, there are always instances were you see the suite folding in on itself down to the actor's leg.
I'm talking about the animatronics and the textures, the textures of the Heisei suits looked more natural, and had a broader variety of textures for the scales and skin. In the Millenium series, the suites were better in that they wouldn't have creases, but the texture was always the same, rubber.
On top of that the Heisei series had much nicer animatronic heads than the Millenium series. The Heisei animatronic heads for closeups had moving eyes, moving pupils, moving lips and skin to give expressions as well as moving tongues, complete with saliva.
The Millenium series had a rubber mouth that would close and shut with a separate tongue, and eyes that moved around. The biggest exception to this was the Final Wars suite that had moving lips it used for when he was hit by a blast..

I don't care if it was far more original for Godzilla, it still did not work for Godzilla. I liked the idea, but would have preffered it to be its own original thing, since the idea was great.
And no, the effects were terrible. Godzilla's face was even deader than the rest of the Millenium series, and his teeth looked like they were carved out of styrofoam. Same goes for Styrofoame head Gidorah.
The rubber and styrofoam look was even more clashing when they decided to plaster him into shots with real people, along with the obvious toy tanks, or when he was shopped into footage of real life water locations, with the water not reacting to Godzilla at all.
The 60s series looks better than the Millenium, for the same reason the Heisei does, they have better looking suites and textures (save for when they decided to keep using the same suites without fixing any of the damage they took during the fight scenes of the previous films). The sets started out looking fantastic, but you saw how they ran out of money near the end were the city sets looked super cheap, to the point that they stopped using actual minature bricks and started using cardboard and kept the camera on plastic people for far too long.
the 60s are my favorite era by the way, since those are the ones I grew up with, but you always realize that it's people in suits on sets, which is what I like about them. The suits still look much better than styrofoam mouth GMK Godzilla, with his unpainted rubber skin texture.

Yes the CGI was horrible (just like the CGI in the rest of the Millenium series), the music was all over the place and the battles too short. But it was a nice and welcomed homage to all eras of Godzilla and went all out on everything because it was meant to be the final one for a while.
I still enjoyed it more than the majority of the Millenium series, save for the Mecha Godzilla films.

Yeah, a gun that shoots black holes? Godzilla being the souls of dead soldiers? The Spce clone one at least they said "fuck it, this is stupid enough as is, lets not try to explain it too much", while the Millenium series went all out on making their convoluted stuff, even more convoluted.
You also missed out the stupid ship they built that was super pointless and never worked. Also, it was Americans, not Brits that came from the future, which is why we have that silly scene of two US Marines during WW2 seeing the time machine, and one being revealed as Steven Spielberg's dad.
The Heisei series was stupid, but they at least tried to make something with it, they stuck to it for years and actually seemed to put thought into it, while the Millenium series just looked like they were trying to rush them out twice a year so make some money while the name still had some credit.

1. How should I know about your Godzilla reviews?
2. Why do they make you an authority on Godzilla?
3. Why be condescending about your reviews and act like they're required viewing?

On top of that, yes, the sets got worse in the Heisei series near the end, but they started out great. But the thing is, the Heisei series lasted for over 10 years, a drop in quality is inevitable in something that lasts that long. The Millienium series is more consistent, but then again, that series lasted for 4 years and pumped out two films a year.

 

I disagree, but fair enough. Except for the Kiryu Goji though. That suit had by far the most animatronics in a Godzilla head to date.

  Funny enough, that is where the negative for the 60s comes from, they were people in suits, and that is not how I should think when it comes to giant monsters destroy cities. They shouldn't be people in suits, but monsters. Thankfully though, the effects, miniatures, characters, and story telling made up for it (at least through Invasion of Astro Monster).

Agreed. Japan should just stop using CGI all together as they will never have the budget to make it work.

Don't get me started on Megaguirus, which is awful. The only movies that are worse than that one are SpaceG, Megalon, and Revenge.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you have only watched this movie with either the dub or the Sony dubtitles rather than the true subtitles. Godzilla was still awakened and mutated by the atomic bombs, the souls of the dead only give him his immortality.

Americans, Brits, they were still bad actors with a stupid concept.

Except Toho stopped trying after King Ghidorah. The G Force plot line overall did absolutely nothing. They traded in machinery quicker than Optimus Primal changed bodies. Miki served no purpose whatsoever and for being in 6 movies, she did very little and had about as much development as Darth Maul.

Twice a year? They were released every Dec just like the Heisei was from vsKG. However, at least the Millennium series had far more character development in GMK and the first Kiryu movie compared to anything the Heisei series did. GMK's Commander Tachibana was developed in far greater detail in 4 minutes than General Aso was in three movies. Akane in the first Kiryu movie had more development in her 88 minutes than Miki did in 6, nearly 2 hour long, movies.

Because I made several posts about them throughout the year. My signature is my Youtube channel.

I never said I was a full on authority, but I try to go into far more details with the movies and actually show the movie footage in my reviews, which is something I have yet to see any review actually do on Youtube. Every review I watch is just someone sitting in front of the screen and talk about the movie for 20 minutes and that is it. Sometimes they might show a still shot. If that works for you though, awesome. However, it doesn't work for me because I don't want to just watch someone talk about the movie, I want to actually see scenes from the movies and have jokes made about them like the people of Channel Awesome do with their reviews.

I also show the areas where I see failure and praises and my reviews were made without me having any prior knowledge of video editing. I taught myself how to make reviews as I was doing them.

Again though, if the reviews aren't your cup of tea, no worries, but I do think you should give them a chance.

Sorry if you felt that way. It's just that it is easier for me to explain what I mean better in words than text, so things you might be trying to figure out what I mean might come off better when you hear me speak it.

Technically not though. It was 84, 89, then 91-95. The Heisei series was only one more movie than the Millennium series.

No they didn't. 2000 was in 1999, GxM was 2000, GMK was 2001, GxMG was 2002, SOS was 2003, and FW was 2004. All came out in Dec.

However, it seems there is one thing we agree on, rushing a movie to be out every year harms the series.

 

Odd. Everytime I saw this movie I got urked at the notion of this Godzilla being too much a "friendly calamity" rather than the wrath of nature that kicks other monsters' asses and then back on humanity for fucking things up too much.

 

I just look at it as him simply not giving enough a **** about humankind to waste his time retaliating against them/us.

 

Humans are as insignificant to him as bugs. The Mutos were his only concern, and he wasn't going to stop until they were dead.

 

Final Wars is my kids' favorite Godzilla movie. I guess because they don't have very much of an attention span. My favorite is probably Godzilla Vs. Gigan because it is really cheesy but not completely awful like Vs. Megalon is.

 

As others have stated, Godzilla simply didn't give a flying fuck about humanity, to the point where he didn't even bat an eye at one; aside from briefly noticing Ford. Which, to be quite honest, is most likely akin to you laying on your room floor and noticing an ant a few feet in front of you. Godzilla probably saw Ford and thought "huh, look at that", and went on about his business  .

 

Let's bring an end to 2015 with a list featuring my top 10 favorite Godzilla movies. Or rather, those that are the BEST IN THE FRANCHISE!!  


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI83oWDMqz4

 

there he is

in the flesh

 

HOLY (BLEEP)!!! He looks like a cross between a Titan and Freddy Krueger. But hell it works.

 

Oh good golly that is both awesome and terrifying at the same time. If that doesn't give you nightmare fuel I don't know what will.

 

Uhhmm, hmm. I've seen worse I guess. The eyes are a little creepy. He looks as if he's been mutated/is rotting like a corpse.

 

man the monsterarts of this guy would look intense

 

He looks like he's been skinned alive.  

 

He is a gnarly motherfucker man for sure, as if he actually is covered in third degree burns, raw uncovered muscle, peeling skin... Jusy a haunting and zombified corpse.

I'm seriously digging it. Shin Godzilla actually looks like a victim of radiation, with all the horrible scarring, scorched flesh, exposed muscle, etc.

 

I hope those are fake because I am not liking this at all.

 

Godzilla '14 is an example of how insignificant humans (ergo, our weapons) are compared to the wrath of nature. Shin-Gojira, on the other side of that coin, is an example of how devastating man's weapons can be to nature.

Plus, if this makes any sense, he just has a look of sheer terror (with a hint of sadness) in his eyes. For me, that makes him even scarier. I mean, what could possibly be scarier than the scariest thing we can comprehend?

 

I'll be the first in line to buy it. This design is fucking METAL! Would love to have this one and G14 square off on my shelf!