It is way too early in the game to even think of the phrase, 'too little too late'. I would suggest the analyst save his hyperbole for when it's more appropriate.

Right now the PS3 is struggling. You can't deny that. A serious price drop will, I feel, prove to be necessary for Sony to gain ground. It'll take more than a killer ap, I believe.

I cannot agree at all with the analysis that the Wii's success will harm developers. That's a bit of a stretch.

Really, this analysis says nothing. In a years time, then we'll know more and be able to make realistic, much more accurate assessments of the various situations.

 

If sony wouldve went hd-player 'stead of blu-ray, that shouldve made the ps3comparible price to a 360..

Im not going to pay for sony's mistake of the blu ray deal.


I will only get one if it hits 400. at least. thats it. where the hell did they get 600 dollars from I will never understand.

Those baller's at christmas time scooping them at 2k sure got thier end of a bad deal I can assure you that. <(hating big time)

 

It's selling just fine as a BD player and will sell even more when it's first party and exclusive games release during the holidays. BD exclusives are just as important for the PS3 as are the games. If you want Pirates, Spidey and a few other big name movie franchises in HD, you only have one choice.

 

Because it cost $700 to manufacture?

 

$800

 

blu ray isnt the thing that pushed the price so high. its the cell processor.

 

Which raises the question of why there are Blu-Ray players that cost even more than the PS3? I'd figure that the Cell and the Blu-Ray are both reasons for the high price. It's not like either one is cheap.

 

I still feel that there's a unique difference between 'too late' and 'just not in first place anymore'. And at least in the US, I think the Playstation brand is probably strong enough that will likely be just fine in the long run.

Maybe.

Now, Japan however...it's getting real, real ugly there. Sony needs to do something fast or it is safe to say they could be dead in the water soon.

 

If MS had actually installed HD playback in the 360, its cost would've been comparable to the PS3 now, so Sony going HD wouldn't have done much.

 

Regarding Third Party developers on Nintendo Wii:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=24695

"The idea that Nintendo is bad for third-party publishers is a myth with roots in the 8bit -16bit days when Nintendo and Sega manufactured cartridges and the third party publishers felt they got short shrift in the production line," he continued.

"With N64 and GameCube, Nintendo suffered from a lack of third-party support and most of the third party titles that were published on Nintendo's platforms were slapped together ports of games for other systems."

"Publishers that provide quick and careless original and licensed titles or shoehorned ports of games designed for other platforms are going to suffer, as they should."

 

And every time a thread like this gets posted, someone has to get annoyed and post anecdotes that have nothing to do with the topic. Thank you, Kickback, for continuing the circle of life.

What part of the article (you did read it, didn't you?) predicts doom for Sony? It's just an analyst saying that the expected price cut might not help Sony significantly. That doesn't mean bankruptcy, it just means continued lack of dominance. As far as I can tell, drippy didn't post it as a Nintendo-fanboy-Sony-bash, either. He summarized what the analyst said without putting any fanboy spin on it.

Basically we've got:
"Sony will have a hard time catching up with its competitors"
"Oh yeah? Well you suck, and I don't like the Wii."

Okay... so? Seriously.

 

Oh, I was under the impression that it was a hd-player?

I guess im wrong?

I know HD players are cheaper than Blu ray disc players, but I guess its a null argument cause I hear ya on the processor side of things as well, but, I thought I heard intel was going to introduce some new processors here soon sometime as well.

When it comes down to it, the price has to drop slightly sooner or later...and salvage some type of profit in the quarter, I just hope its a substantial amount to where it might make a dent in that 2 bill loss Sony posted on the Ps3.

I was hoping Nintendo would make a comeback secretly in my heart. And Im glad they did.

 

The 360 has an optional HD-DVD add-on. It doesn't come with the system. The add-on has no purpose for games. It's basically just a cheap HD-DVD movie player that requires a 360 to run.

 

gotcha. well, in any case, I do hope to see a closer match between these console giants, but like kickback said, it time to pass the torch sometimes too.

 

Sony were never going to use HD DVDs, they were developed by a rival company.


It's yet to be proven that Blu-Ray as a format is a success or failure, and the same holds true for HD DVDs.

 

Ditto. Except I turned it on to get the free Opera download. Other than that, nada.

Though when Mario Party comes out that will change.

 

I actually never finished Zelda, so lately I've gone back and played that. I have also been getting more into the VC lately. I never had a TG16, and as a Genesis person there were a lot of SNES games I missed out on. So I've been enjoying that.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Well, with a few names changed around, and a few years ago, but...yeah.

This also sounds familiar (for me anyway). It was with a little something called the DS. That initial drought was real, real dry. Luckily that turned out all right. I expect the same for the Wii.

 

I think the question is "too little too late" for what, exactly?

Too late to avoid embarassing itself and becoming this generations 3DO or DreamCast? Absolutely not.

Too late to outsell the competition? Maybe not.

But too late to regain its domination of the industry? Probably.

If you look at most of the various console wars (with the exception of the SNES/Genesis, which was pretty well tied before Genesis stepped aside), the path a console takes in its first year is fairly indicative of where it will be heading long term. Right now, the PS3 is a modest success, but well behind its competitors. I'd say its options right now are 1) fall apart, 2) stay where it is, 3) become more competitive. I don't see much chance for it to seize the market the way the PS2 did. Even in a best case scenario, the PS3 can hope for a 3 way split, which will, historically, be seen as a step down for Sony, just as the N64 was for Nintendo.

 

HD players are somewhat cheaper, but not by a huge margin. The 360 HD player costs another $130 ($200 when first released - I think they cut it when they saw BR kicking their ass in sales since the holidays). So if you take the 360 Elite (the only one with the HDMI cable) and add the price of the HD player, it actually costs MORE than the premium PS3.