Seems like a weird issue for a CW Deluxe to have going. I'm hoping it's actually a misassembly or something similar, that might be fixed or at least improved in a running change or the Takara release. I'm betting when Brawl is released wider, there will be a few 'carve out a little plastic HERE-->' tutorials on this board.

Not pleased, but tank and limb modes are functional, so I've still got a Bruticus planned.

 

I certainly hope so.  

 

Wouldn't be a proper Generation release without a major design flaw...

 

Not every Generations figure has a major design flaw you know.

 

just a majority of them. don't get your knickers in a twist.

 

I'm not but I own most of the Generations line hardly any of them have a major flaw, I mean you have Blitzwing/Doubledealer & Rhinox but seriously only a small number have any flaw! Heck I think Brawl is the first deluxe in CW to even have a flaw!

 

I'm worried now. I have to live with a Brawl figure with a bad waist.

 

And Brainstorm's headmaster, and the paint on Cosmos' noggin, and stressmarks on Waspinator's shoulders, and Whirl's smell...

I mean, I'm mostly joking, but at this point I kinda expect a giant problem with every release.

 

Not quite.

Hot Spot: Knees need modified so they'll lock in place in robot mode.
(Crap...which reminds me, Onslaught will need it too. Ugh.)

Optimus/Motormaster: Hip ratchets needed replaced, either by Nonnef or by Hasbro, but it needed fixing. (That's the side to side movement, still doesn't fix the hip stability for the forward and backward motion which is the bigger of the two hip problems.)

Devastator: Moving Mixmaster or Scrapper too far in combined form at the ankle formation can cause a tear in the plastics.

Wildrider: Doesn't want to stay together in either vehicle or limb mode, while Dead End, Streetwise and Prowl all hold together just fine. (Both US and Japanese releases of this figure have the gapping issue, while Dead End, which is an exact duplicate, minus the head, does not.)

Things are not all good in the hood when it comes to Combiner Wars releases, that said, they're not as bad as they could be. There's plenty that could go wrong with them and they for the most part haven't.

If anything, I'd say the Springer, Blitzwing/Doubledealer, Rhinox, Rattrap assortments of Generations probably had fewer issues and fewer numbers of figures with issues. Combiner Wars seems to have them beat a bit.

 

yeah, to call this line flawless would be wildly inaccurate. and that's not even taking into consideration some of the aesthetic/design choices.. like mixmasters leg mode, or the treads being part of the torso instead of the arms, or not giving us a proper groove, or releasing offroad and alpha bravo first instead of slingshot and wildrider, or making blast off a jet.. or the atrocious ratchet joints at the hips and shoulders.. and so on.

i think takara's version of bruticus will be my final generations figure unless they release more beast era updates. otherwise i'm going to stick with the masterpiece line.

 

I don't own Devastator, Optimus I found a good pose to ignore the leg issue as well as Motormaster, I have expected the same leg issue with all of the Dead End mold and its no big deal since I dont combine them, and Hot Spot's biggest issue is he is just a brick.

All I was saying is from my experience saying you expected an issue in EVERY Generations figure was not needed.

 

I wouldnt call hotspot's knee a flaw, its just something not in the instructions. But it clicks together well and works perfectly fine, no need to change anything, just to transform it correctly.

 

Most of this is your personal preference. Sorry it didn't go your way this time.

 

Update to video on brawl to show the flaw in design

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlULI_8p_4M

 

Watch Emgo's video is see the right way to do the knees.

I'll give you Motormaster/ Optimus, but Devastator only breaks if you force the joint beyond where is designed to go.

For me it's both Stunticons that don't hold together in arms mode. I'm not saying it's not a flaw, but there does seem to be some "YMMV" going on with this one.

Personally I give Combiner Wars more leeway with stuff like this. Each toy does so much and they do it better that any combiner in the last 20 years. Now if we were looking at a flaw that affected the combine form then I would have a problem.

Now I'm thinking assembly error, or shitty design, but most of the CW deluxes have not had problems that big. Most of them have pegged together and locked in place for most of the modes, with two exceptions that come to mind (Deadend and Off Road) and those at leas had connections in the design.

 

Having a spare limb hanging off in limb mode is forgiveable. Not being able to do robot mode without issue is a big deal.

I may wait for a few more reviews. This concerns me, especially since Brawl is not particularly good looking.

 

Well this is going to save me money, so thanks I guess Hasbro.

 

The problem is the pegs/latches can't go through any further, so you can't collapse the pelvis part properly. Seems like you (at least the adults among us) might be able to simply fix that by cutting the blocking pieces away with an exacto knife. Might've been a mold error and plastic was supposed to have flowed away there originally.

I know we shouldn't have to fix our toys, but I remain hopeful.  

 

I did see this, but he also tweeted later that it may have been an issue with that one particular figure. That fig may be defective. Not good if that is any indication on how this line will look. I just hope it is an isolated issue.

 

Don't mind me changing the subject for a while...

Curiously, the comics that come packed in with the Combaticons are the issues that originally were to come with the first wave of CW Deluxes but didn't get release as only the international versions with the cards made it out to retail. So that's a rather odd move by Hasbro to rerelease those issues rather than continue on with the current story arc.

Just wanted to point that out. Now please continue your Brawl talk