Combiner Wars Optimus Maximus Biographies

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  1. DJW107PRIME

    DJW107PRIME Autobot Hero

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    Wow those were neat bios I love when people put effort in to these.
     
  2. BB Shockwave

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    Prowl's table-flipping is comedy gold. :) 

    I see Rung was not privy to the darker aspects of Sunstreaker's past, I mean... binary-bonded to a human (and being used by Scorponok as the main brain of his army), getting almost killed by his friend, and then betraying the whole Autobot army to the Decepticons out of his hatred for humans?
     
  3. Rodimus Prime

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    That's been my main issue with how IDW portrays certain characters. I knew that it would 'leak' into the main/toy profiles, and change them. I'm afraid that Budiansky's patient and wise tactician is going to be on his way out, and IDW's hot mess of a character is going to become the 'norm' associated with Prowl. :redface2: 
     
  4. Thorhammer

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    Is Sunstreaker still considered gay or was that only in the Dreamwave comics?
     
  5. Rodimus Prime

    Rodimus Prime Sola Gratia, Sola Fide TFW2005 Supporter

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    DW.
     
  6. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    I hate to break it to you but Prowl being a manipulative bastard is a far more interesting and compelling characterization than being a patient and wise tactician. I mean they never really did anything with it. It's like how Budiansky's Ratchet is suppose to be a party ambulance but outside of a few sceneario that never comes into play, we have our grumpy old heart of gold medic instead.
     
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    I really want these guys so y Optimus can combine with someone. I am wanting Cannons for Ironhide stupid Movie, I guess the Perfect Effect foot Guns will do
     
  8. Neo Tallgeese

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    I wonder will a 3rd party come around and do shoulder rockets for prowl, a van conversion kit for Ironhide, a different silver motor for Sunstreaker, and then something to make Mirage's hood go over his chest. To be fair, they really do look pretty good for what they are, but I could see add ons like these working pretty well.
     
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    GizmoTron Roobaticon Commander

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    Still better than G1 animation Prowl's profile, which equates to basically background only character who's only footnote is that he's an onscreen death in the movie.
     
  10. Sigmalock

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    There is a way to get Mirage's hood on his 'chest'; if you rotate the waist and head 180 degrees, and swing the arms around, you get something resembling Mirage's G1 self, as CW Drag Strip demonstrates:

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    The only catch is that the fists are around the wrong way - fingers face outwards, rather than inwards. (You could possibly swap the hands over, although that could be tricky).
     
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    They can, they've made a good possibility of the van twins with First Aid, but Hasbro chose to make Ironhide a pick up instead. Which fits. He is more of an offroader than an ambulance.

    But if Hasbro could be more creative, they'd take Rook mold and remolds it to make a van. A very boxy, tough looking van!
     
  12. ultramagnus1

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    Im loving these bios.

    Cant wait to pick these guys up. Prowl and Mirage are my favorites here. A nice mention of Prowl flipping a table from MTMTE.
     
  13. Rodimus Prime

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    That is an issue with the medium portraying the characteristics, not with the characteristics themselves. As for being "more interesting and compelling", that is a matter of taste, but I suppose if he were actually portrayed as a 'manipulative bastard' rather than a wanna-be, I might not mind the shift in portrayal. As it stands, they really ought to give him a Snidely Whiplash-style mustache and be done with it.

    Then again, this is the same continuity where they elected Starscream, so obviously everyone in the IDW-verse is an idiot.

    G1 Animation Prowl didn't have a profile. G1 Prowl did, and it was used for the cartoon, comic, and BW.
     
  14. Haywired

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    I hate to break it to you, but IDW Prowl is hardly a manipulative bastard atm.

    Right now he's more a disjointed mess pulled in three different directions by three different writers.

    - sometimes he's written with a cheap comic reliefs and flip tables, because why not? That's the easiest why of characterisation, after all. Good thing it was UM who eventually ended on LL, not Prowl.

    - sometimes he's written as a serious manipulative bastard in codas to AHM.

    - sometimes he's written as a wannabe manipulative, but really doesn't look like that without dumbing down Prime so Prowl can act freely. Also this idea with Prowlastator that was pursued for too long, thus ended derailing the character even more. Good thing at least this one is finally gone...

    And I don't really see in this toy bio anything impressive, if anything it pursues the worst parts of how this character was lately written. And that's clearly inferior to his G1 bio.
     
  15. Starscream Gaga

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    "Everything In Its Right Place" remains the best characterisation of Prowl ever written. Fact. Considering all the problems with Prowl stem from RID/not-RID and he has consistently been awesome as well as not contradictory to his original bio in Roberts and Roche stories (which are the only ones referenced here) makes, at least to me, any objections to the biographies just come off as your usual "G1 ONLY!!1!one!" belly-aching.

    His ex-boyfriend's husband and an egotistical prick have teased him about flipping tables, once each with about 20 issues in between the events. That's not making him a cheap comic relief character. When we have actually seen Prowl in Roberts stories, he has always been the guy we saw back when he was under Roche.

    Besides, what the hell bio are you guys remembering? Prowl's original bio was just a generic spiel about how analytical and logical he was and then a description of his weapons. There is nothing "inferior" or "superior" there to any other bio he's been given. There certainly isn't any contradictions to it here, this one's just more expansive of his personality and position in the Autobot army.
     
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    Opinion.

    Not even close to beig a fact.

    While I like this story, it's hardly a "fact". And plenty of people can disagree being as right as people who consider it the best characterisation ever.

    And Prowl even under Roberts is reliant on other people being dumb and doing incredibly stupid things like taking Overlord to LL.
    That's not very different than Prime hitting one more mid-life crisis so Prowl can manipulate things.
     
  17. Starscream Gaga

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    No you're absolutely right, there have definitely been better characterisations of G1 Prowl like...

    ... The five sentences on a piece of cardboard that came with a toy that "Everything In Its Place" was completely accurate to, just with more compelling expansions and a deeper look into how Prowl's logic and analysis dictates his personality and actions?

    Seriously though, the only other time G1 Prowl has truly been featured at any interesting level is in the Marvel Comics and that still wasn't at the level of intrigue and ingenuity seen in the AHM: Coda. Not sure if it is quite a subjective statement.
     
  18. Haywired

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    And now I'll wait for someone explaining to me how Prowl's current toy bio is better, when it focuses at table flipping. Which is supposedly something minor happening only from time to time.
    It's a short toy bio. Everything you fit into it becomes an important character trait.
     
  19. T-Hybrid

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    Oh cool, I see we've now regressed to nitpicking character bios on the cardboard most of us end up shoving in the closet (and most kids throw in the trash).

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    I don't mind Ironhide being a truck, but am surprised they didn't base Trailbreaker on First Aid.
     
  20. ultramagnus1

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    A lot of people love IDW Prowl. Personally hes an overrated character who has dominated the comics for too long. The combiner devastator thing went on for too long and in fact probably should never have happened yet a lot of folks liked it and a lot of folks wanted this as an option for the new Devastator toy. A 3rd party company seems to be giving us this option.

    Either way its time for other characters to get some more prolonged coverage in the comics.