Is this a KO Masterpiece Tigertracks??

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  1. Cax6ton

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    So the stamp on the leg indicates a legit one? I bought mine loose and don't really care one way or the other, but it's nice to know if there's a definite way to tell.
     
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    So has Tony sorted the TT stock? Im looking at ordering one from him. He has two different ones on offer a cheaper option which is box c-7. What is c7?

    Thanks
     
  3. joshua

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    A c-7 box has a little damage to the outside box, maybe a dinged corner or a crease in the box. Inside figure is complete and mint.
     
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    Quoted from another board member Cyberjet #7 :

    AFA (Action Figure Authority) is usually the standard for graded figures. They are very thorough and can find the most specific details on a figure that can sometimes be missed at first glance (or even by the human eye). Their grading scale is commonly based on 1-100 in 5 point incremants; so for example 75, 80, 85, 90. This scale also includes grades for the areas of the figure including - the figure itself, blister condition, and card condition. However, they are now offering a "modern scale" that consists of one overall grade that includes decimals; for example 8.25, 9.25, 7.5. They have only offered a grade of 100 a few times early in their grading career, but it is commonly known that 100 grades are not offered now. A 100 grade would be offered only if, like, God assembled the figure, painted, boxed it, and then hand delivered it to you. The few examples of 100s given out by AFA are almost considered mistakes and would have graded lower if they did not occur so early in AFA history.

    The "Cogsworth" grading scale or "C-grade" scale is what is used by the average toy collector and is not usually so discriminate as the AFA scale. This is the type most seen on Ebay and is very speculative. There are people on Ebay who present high, unrealistic grades for their figures; but in looking at their pictures you can see the grades are only offered to increase the profit they could make off of unsuspecting buyers.

    This would be a good grading system I would use:

    C-10: Does not exist. Never grade something C-10 unless God or your own respective higher-power came down and handed you the figure.

    C-9: Better then case fresh. Should have one or no easily identified flaws. If it has one flaw, it should be very minor and not readily seen.

    C-8: Usually what you find from a "case fresh" figure. This would be a good example of the best figure directly pulled from a case and may only have a couple small creases on the card border, but usually not alot of blister problems.

    C-7: The lowest level a MISB/MOC "collector" would consider buying. Might have one or two "noticeable" flaws, but should still display well. Maybe some one soft-corner, etc.

    C-6 and below: Only good if the piece is a "vintage" level collectible, otherwise this grade should be used for fgures one would want to open.

    Overall, if selling figures for profit and wanting to give the buyer an accurate description you should be very subjective and include ALOT of pictures, or be prepared to have additional pictures ready. Discerning collectors will want to see all corners and sides of the packaging, if they are buying high-end pieces. Tape applications (or tape strikes) will also be important - in terms of tape color and condition. Also, you should be very knowledgeable about the exact product you have so that you can distingusih between variants and the like.
     
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    Thats answered my question, thanks
     
  6. Argus

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    Correct. Do note that the lack is also indicative of not passing QC (such as it is).
    In other words, there might be issues with it. On mine the head is almost perfect aside from the slight angle upwards and lacking some movement due to being on backwards on the neck. In truth I'd rather have that then scratched up paint. The roof connector is stuck in the roof though. I removed it from the box like that.
     
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    OK, so I finally sat down and compared everything and noticed something that I haven't seen in the comparisons. My figure was bought loose from a Chinese seller on ebay. The rear markings are correct, it has the stamp on the leg, the card has the Lambo logo. The difference is that the instructions don't match either picture, they're in Chinese, with Hasbro's Chinese website and email:

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    At first I thought "White border, cool, we're good.....Then it hit me: "wait a minute, that still doesn't look right...."
     
  8. Blue Meanie

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    That is the Asia version. Its legit. The sealed one has the english instructions as well.
     
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    That's from lena?
     
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    If you're asking me, yes, mine was from lena. Overall the figure is great, it was missing the sticker sheet, and there was a small scratch on the hood that a reprolabel covers nicely, but the figure itself is great and doesn't exhibit any of the known issues that were reported with the KO's of this mold.
     
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    Lena's stock is factory error/overstock as well. Similar to the lacking QC stuff in a way but picked from a different point in the factory line basicly.
    The instructions are for the chinese version. Should be a pack in for that market.
     
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    I've bought three figures from Lena. My MP Tigertrack has a scratch in the paint across the hood, but is otherwise perfect, my FoC skywarp has some paint chips on the edge/sharp parts of the wings, and I picked up a Legends figure that I didn't notice any flaws in, but it might have had some.

    I'll agree that I'm pretty sure that seller's stock is "error" stock. But I got TT for like $39 and FoC SW for $15, so I'm ok with minor flaws.
     
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    How long did it take most of you to get your KO TT? Mine has had the status of "Processed Through Sort Facility, ISC Chicago IL" since Sunday. I am starting to freak, cause when I googled that, someone on an ebay forum said that custom will impound a KO, or fake of something. Is that true? Do I really have to worry about not getting this?
     
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    Customs really only impounds large amounts of KOs at a time, like they would seize a container full of them from known KO sellers.

    I highly doubt they would impound a single item especially one as small a toy.
     
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    I have often had international packages stop updating once they reach Chicago or LA, and the tracking doesn't update until it's out for delivery or already delivered. Try tracking it through the USPS website instead of ebay or the originating service. If USPS says it's there, you can have them chase it down. For my area, it's usually takes 3 or 4 days after it hits the sort facility to be delivered to me.
     
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    I just purchased a MP Tigertrack off Amazon from a seller in the US and I was wondering if anyone could clarify something for me?

    I'm not in town so its with my friend, and he skyped with me and showed me the figure box. It's got a large white sticker on the bottom and a 'CCC' sticker on the front. I've seen a few of these in some eBay auctions, but I don't know if this is a legitimate figure or the KO or a backdoor item and I'm concerned, as I won't be able to get the figure in my hands for at least another month, and there's no 'guide' on the differences I have found online. The seller guaranteed me they don't sell KO.

    I notice the above quoted post mentions there was a Japan stock, Hong Kong stock, and China stock with a 3c sticker (this seems to be from the China then). Is there any difference between these figures, is there a possibility the 3c be a knockoff or backdoor item, or did I purchase a legitimate item and I'm just panicking pointlessly?