How is Hasbro NOT meeting the demands of collectors? We have Masterpiece we have CHUG? Other than not making every character available at the same time they're doing exactly what the fans want. Sure not every fan is going to love the end result of a particular figure, but Hasbro is trying, they have a lot more limitations to their business since they have stock holders to please and make sure the big box stores will continue to carry the product, along with making sure the toys meet safety standards, hit certain price points and fit within a budget.

 

I can understand protecting intellectual property. Combiner Wars Constucticons will likely be on display so I could see Hasbro not being trilled at non-licensed Constucticons around the dealers room while Hasbro is attempting to push their Constructicons.

On the other hand I do think Hasbro has be realistic about things they are never ever going to make. With Hasbro's reluctance to produce weapon packs it seems that some non-licensed original creations greatly enhance the hobby for those collectors with the hobby budgets to afford it.

 

Hopefully, is just sad that people can't seem to understand that, Japan has a bigger adult collector's market from what I have seen and read online, we have thank Takara for the MP line because I don't think Hasbro would care at all to continue doing it all on their own if it wasn't for the Japanese collector market there.

 

HASBRO makes just enough changes to keep the lawyers happy.
Car companies may or may not be happy... but would they pass up an opportunity for HASBRO to pay licensing fees when the next movie or MP comes around?

And it doesn't matter if you can't drive a Deluxe sized Transformers down the street: You can't drive a HOT WHEELS down the street either and they have to pay licensing fees.

And HASBRO must pay those fees, even tho the car design is NOT the main selling point of the toy. The main selling point is the brand Transformers, and the character. But if they want their car to look like a specific vehicle, they have to pay a fee.

And if they don't want to pay a fee, then they do what 3P does to them: change just enough of the features to get around it.

 

Eh it's all good just gotta find the right hotel room I suppose.

 

cuz with the actual level of 3rd parties, filling up the wholes from hasbro, hurts their sellings and shows their lack of end-product quality

 

well dont a MP was delayed because takara having some trouble in getting a license? so occasionally they do pass an opportunity for licensing..

and when come to movie, isnt it the other way around? i seems to remember that general motor (or insert a brand here) that pay to have their brand appear in the movie.

 

Everyone here is right. But it doesn't matter.
Botcon is affiliated/sponsored/made relevant by, hasbro.
The terminology and mind-numbing soapbox maneuvers don't matter.
The opinions of the people on a transformers website don't really matter, and that's ok.
It's their convention, and I can see no reason why they can't set the terms and conditions of their party.

 

yeah, japan do have a bigger market on adult collector, this is also probably why their children's toy are so well made because they know adult are also going to buy them and most big company like bandai have a separate line dedicated to adult collector.

 

Your probably right on that front. I would agree that might be the case, and makes the BEST sense I have heard on this board all day. Great Job! I see that may be to the case. Smart! Very sensible.

 

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I fully understand it but it's very questionable for their revenue, I guess this means there can be no fan art, customs, and certainly no toys.

It only makes sense to me that the same people that have the cash to drop on 3rd party stuff are the same people that have the money to drop on tables and those packages from Botcon.

I'm sure some peoplle are going there solely to get the Botcon set and buy 3rd party stuff they can't find online.

I am not into which one is better or not I'm just talking about it from a business point of view.

 

Not a biggie man  

 

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Also, on top of that the people that have fan art, tables with third party items, or even the third party people themselves, may also be buying the packages that makes the convention money.

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It's cool now. Things happen, topics like this are always going to be upsetting to some.

From this point forward, let's move any necessary apologies to the pm boxes. Glad everyone's chilling out now.

Ok, back on point - discuss the topic away, fellas  

 

Hey pete,

I think you should also (if you haven't done so already) most likely touch on the subject of 'donation'.

Yes, I'm from california. We "Donate" for medicine, so I just wanted to bring that up just in case it wasn't brought up and vendors used it as a loophole.

I love my third party figures, but Im not gonna give 'dad' a titty twister, so to speak.

 

probably not since fan art and custom are individual commission work, not a mass produce product... i'm not an expert on law, but i think they fall under fair use.

if i draw superman and sell it to someone else, DC cant come after me... if i draw superman in a comic and publish it, then they'll probably after me.

 

Whoa! This thread blew up in the blink of an eye (a night's rest, really) 

Anyway, 662 post later and still no official clarification? Wow