TMNT wasn't awful, but it was by no means of the imagination good. You could really say that about any movie he produces and doesn't direct - I Am Number Four, Project Almanac, The Purge movies (well actually the Purge movies suck but anyway). He knows what the people want - they just want shit, is all.

 

Me too. I guess I can't blame him though. Making Paramount a few billion every couple years gives him the leverage to make his own pet project movies like Pain and Gain. I'll give him one thing- he knows how to put a spectacle on screen.

 

Critics are just people with opinions. My opinion is as valid as theirs'

 

That's the thing, though; the same people are wasting time in every one of these threads. I've ignored it for years, but I just can't fathom how people aren't bored of it all.

 
Although, I think it is inevitable Bay will get replaced someday. He can't keep up the exact same thing (however he might not with a new writer  ) and still rake in the same people.

AOE has a 52% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes, so...
Kind of a giant contrast with the critic rating, no?

 

Those movies are terrible.

 

Appreciated   I'm certainly not saying you can't hate Bay or the movies... no one should tell you what to like or hate.

I tend to think critics aren't the most reliable when it comes to action and comedy as they tend to look for something beyond the basics, does it make people excited, or make them laugh. Critics are much more reliable when it comes to drama, as those are the films that are pushing for a deeper meaning.

I also know a lot of fans who dislike the movies as well as norms (non transformers fans), but in general those are people in their 30's or older. I don't talk to a lot of teenagers and 20 somethings and that is a huge part of the movie going public, those are in general the ones without kids, who have more disposable income.

For some reason the law of diminishing returns is not happening with the live action movies as they keep making more money or in the case of the 4th movie, about the same.

It would be great if they rebooted the movie series, but I'm entertained by the live action movies, they are the equivalent of a fireworks display, not a whole lot of depth but can be a lot of fun to watch. The films have enough basic drama to keep the movies interesting in between the explosions.

 

Yeah, I won't be seeing this,

This is so ridiculously untrue. The fundamentals of drama are what makes people excited, or laugh, and they're what makes those emotions actually stick with them. Critics recognize this; the Fast and Furious franchise made a massive turnaround in their perception when those movies came to understand how to tell their story through characters.

 

I know its a different film but ive just seen Avengers AOU.. And Bay would dream to do a film like this.

 

Completely unrelated to this topic but what version of Bumblebee is that in the second to last figure at the bottom right?

 

"G1"-errs in not complaining. I have a friend who walked out of the first quarter of the TF4 movie and returned to work late because he felt that it was a waste of his money. (I did warn him)

People "whine" because we think it deserves better. It might gross a heck of a lot more if it wasn't for the fandom. Furious 7 Gross higher without the IMAX 3D and XD 3D.

The movies aren't the best way to get people into it, the toys and the series are. If Bay did Generation 1, the series would be as dead as Go-bots.
And TMNT sucked too and it has Bay's signature all over it.