Blaster that looks awesome. love the G2 artwork...

 

I dont normally sell high end items on eBay, but as you stated you are welcome to any publicly published data. With all the KO's, shill bidding, and lack of vigilism in ebay policies........that does not represent a true snapshot of market pricing. I will contribute in the Afa group but doubt any collector that has been waiting for 10 years for an afa graded Defensor is going to care what your price guide says it "should" be selling at.
I have acquired many insane deals on Afa toys in the past. Example.....afa red label 90 Liokaiser Giftset for $1600........put that in your price resource

 

I would say a pricing guid would be hard to go buy. Afa to me is a niche market and for those seriously interested and know what they are getting into. What one person wants to sell for might not be what they buyer wants to pay. Sure theres prob been times ppl over or under paid but it kind of is what it is, IMO.

 

Kelley Blue Book - New & Used Car Price Values

 

I have seen the guide thus far.......all you have is "one-shots".
It may be a good idea to collect a pilot program of an average of at least 3 selling prices of an item before you try to set a price in stone. Besides......if you are hedging a guide on your own personal formula of pricing, it is guaranteed inaccurate, as you have been unable to add anything substantial to your collection for years because of your inability to evolve with the franchise and hobby. Having an issue addressing the Diaclone Slag example in the earlier post?

 

The gimps that price 'error boxed' items for $5000 or whatever are a bane on any hobby, how are you going to estimate those? Look at me I have a box with a spelling mistake!!! Big Whoop!! Its not a great piece of history, its a POS.

 

you obviously can't grasp my discussion of trends and averages. But yet you can suggest that we go by averages. way ahead of you dude but you aren't keepin up...

 

what's your beef w/ me anyways? Did I wrong you somewhere along the line?

 

Hell yes, who is that scum bag? Name and shame or we can all just comment, speculate, point fingers and ready our pitchforks!! Anyone recall that whole 'black tracks' episode? It dragged on for an age with plenty of suspicion being pointed in several directions until it became knowledge who was at fault.

 

I can't really say because I have no interest in either so they aren't worth anything to me, they're just recolors of brawn & gears like a red Bumblebee. I get there's rarity & some pieces are in higher volume in high grade than others but I couldn't give an accurate & fair "today's price" because of that.

What a beautiful piece man, congratulations!


Ok, so price wars/discussions/tantrums....I doubt you could ever say a figure is worth "X" dollars & that's it when 2 or more people really want it. Prices of 5-10 years ago are meaningless because the movie has sparked interest from many adults who grew up in the 80's & would like to own again the toy they loved or could never have as a kid. Hobbies are fueled by emotion not commodities, figures, ebay or spread sheets. And now most of us are in our 30's, some with bigger disposable incomes than others you will always get sour grapes from those that feel they can't have what they want just like when they were a child when their friends parents had more money to buy the Transformer you wanted but your parents didn't get for you. It's a bitter life pill to swallow but we've all had to do it at some point.

I can't see why it's a complicated issue to be honest. It's a supply & demand thing plain & simple, if everyone had their fill of 90s of whatever they wanted 20 more could show up & no one would be interested even if it was a 1/4 of what they paid for their own. On the other hand if there was 1 toy that sold for $200 15 years ago & 10 people really wanted it now, it's the person with the most amount of money wins be it for $300, $3K or $30k even though many may never expect it to go over the "gospel today's price" what ever some guy proclaims it to be from research of sales over 15 years...pfft that doesn't mean squat. That's how simple it is, when emotion is involved people will do & say things they normally wouldn't & can't be controlled by facts & figures averaged over a 20 year period. That's why the topic gets ignored because you can't quantify any of it because it will always go up & down which is driven by who's getting in or out of the hobby.

That's my answer to your question Cro. Sorry you felt ignored but I didn't think you or anyone would be stewing over it or have such an issue with it for so long.

 

Adam it's you that's had the issue with me form the very start for what ever reason that is so why would I have any respect for you? As to why I really couldn't care less to be honest. Good luck with your spread sheets & formula's though. Maybe investing that time into actually looking for toys instead of complaining about the prices would be time better spent but you're the 'Veteran' of this hobby.

 

I really should sell my 85's and 90's - 25K a pop I'm asking. My mortgage will be gone in no time flat - Take that ANZ!!  

 

Some of the prices are just silly on Ebay. Once in a while a collector will come up and sell at a reasonable price. But still there are those that list stuff at such a silly level.

 

Prices are worth what people are willing to pay, and what a seller is willing to go to down to - why is this such a big deal/hard concept?

 

This is the only thing KBK has said that is meaningful. If this discussion is about personal attacks, it won't be fruitful. Cro would win that against KBK, because most know how filthy KBK is. The purpose of the guide is to be a resource. Of course it is limited, isn't that the knock on any price guide? Let's not attack a straw horse. But the success of the guide is predicated on collectors sharing accurate information and not BS. I like the idea of this guide because 1) It's not a simple supply/demand conversation and 2) what someone is willing to pay conversation. If you like the guide, contribute and use it. If not, walk away. In any event, don't talk smack about other collectors. Unless it is about KBK, then it is fine.

 

Thanks for the shoutout 
Your reputation precedes you. I have been around a longtime before you and will be here long after you......

 

Funny, they say the same thing about cockroaches. And the similarities don't end there. Other than you (and thankfully I've never done a deal with you), no one has an issue with me. I had two dust ups, but men handle their business and we are good. Might want to look into that. And not for nothing, but what the heck does being somewhere a long time even mean? Now go and find another batch of G1s from some little old lady and pay her 10% of it's worth and leave TFW2005 people alone. Obviously we are far beneath you, but you find time to chime in time to time to do exactly what you are doing now. Troll.

 

Man, its getting damn hot in here.

 

It's obvious to anyone reading this who is doing the trolling and name calling.
Not even going to address your unsubstantiated mumblings. That would be like me arguing with the lowest of lows......you know like one of those fake evangelists that begs for $$$ from little old ladies in church so they can lead a lifestyle they think they deserve 

 

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