So Hot Rod became Rodimus Prime in TF:TM during his fight with Galvatron inside Unicron's stomach or wherever they ever lol. Hot Ro..I mean Rodimus wasn't encouraging himself or motivating him enough, and he was always praising and saying that he will never be the leader that Optimus Prime once was. Let's all take a look here for a second, Optimus Prime had Alpha Trion as his mentor and guidance when he first became Leader, who did Rodimus had? Kup? no offence Kup, he wasn't suited to be Rodimus's mentor and guidance, he was too busy entertaining his fellow Autobots about his war stories. And once Optimus Prime came back (which is good) and after the Hate Plague crisis, why didn't he gave Hot Rod the matrix back and be his mentor and guidance just like Alpha Trion once was to him? Instead he took the Matrix back and made Hot Rod into a kid once again and doing races on Cybertron. I mean Hot Rod was the chosen one and he could have been Optimus Prime's alternate second in command with Ultra Magnus, just like Ironhide, Prowl and Jazz once where.

One thing that I find that add salt to the insult, when Prime was boarding the Shuttle, he goes to Ultra Magnus "Ultra Magnus stay behind, I am leaving you in charge. I know you won't let me down". HELLO!!! Optimus, when did Rodimus let you down? he was saying this to Ultra Magnus about Hot Rod. What did Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime do to deserve such treatment? I mean, he didn't even once approached Hot Rod or made reference to him, and once again he told Kup to make sure the Decepticons don't enter the Plasma Energy Chamber.

All in all, it's like Optimus is trying to say " Hey Rodimus, now you became Hot Rod again, so go do what you do and let us adults take care of this".


I always liked Hot Rod/ Rodimus Prime, and just because he was "he kinda helped Megatron kill Optimus" It's not a reason to throw him under the bus and make him feel unappreciated. I think it took balls to pull this risky move to have Optimus killed off and make Hot Rod as leader and taking care of both Unicron and Galvatron at the same time. Not that I don't like Optimus, but a change needed to be made, and have the Autobots be without a Leader, well technically Ultra Magnus wasn't, to and figure out stuff and act as ONE.


Thoughts?

 

"I tossed the most powerful Decepticon in known history like a chump within a minute of being upgraded and saved our entire planet, taking it back from the Decepticons... I'll never be as good as Optimus..."

 

Yeah it's a shame that in Season 3 Rodimus had a character arc that ends in The Burden Hardest to Bear which is the last episode before The Return of Optimus Prime.

When you look at it like that......it makes it look like Rodimus's whole arc meant nothing....granted they only brought Optimus back for reals because of the backlash of his death.

 

to tell the truth, we dont know if [G1] Alpha trion mentored Optimus
yes, he repaired/rebuilt him, gave him the matrix
but as far as we know, that was it.

Kup ,Ultra magnus, Springer Silverbolt,Hotspot...even Preceptor

the matrix was empty
optimus never "made" anyone do anything they didnt want
how do we know he wasnt tutoring him?

how is that scene relevant?
Hotrod wasn't even on the planet at the time.

and besides, the statement was to give Magnus a pep talk, not to put hotrod down.

 

The most interesting thing about rodimus is, what do you do with the rest of your life when you know you've already fulfilled your destiny?

 

Hot Rod/Rodimus is one of my favorite characters, so it annoyed me to no end when they dropped the ball on his character development when they brought Optimus back. I do however wonder that if season four ever lasted beyond three episodes if more would have been done with Hot Rod.

Keeps on hoping that eventually somebody will do something with the whole chosen one and leader thing with Roddy again.

 

G1 cartoon Rodimus was an ineffectual leader. Good at starting things, but never finishing them. Consider, during his three minutes of fame he manages to: open the Matrix which destroys Unicron, he stops Galvatron, and halts the Decepticon threat. Those accomplishments all sound great until you realize that none of them lasted for any appreciable amount of time. In the year between the end of TFTM and Season 3, Rodimus doesn’t permenantly end the Decepticons menace, nor does he bother to track down Galvatron and finish him, even though he knows Galvatron is extremely dangerous. He also leaves Unicron’s head orbiting Cybertron where anyone could come along to reactivate it with seemingly little effort, as proven in Season 3. Even after it’s shown to be a continuing danger, “The Chosen One” still leaves the severed head of the biggest threat the galaxy has ever known orbiting a populated planet instead of dumping it into a nearby sun.

 

This is why I love MTMTE Rodimus so much. This version is a self centered dick but he's realized he has be better than that and is slowly (very slowly) growing.

G1 Rodimus suffered due to bad writing.

 

And let's look at Optimus Prime's track record: He leads an Autobot Shuttle to go on a mission for energon, and seemed surprised when he found out that the Decepticons were following, like really Prime? you actually think you would leave Cybertron unnoticed? You had 9 million years to finish off Megatron, but instead you were busy playing basketball, football. In the TF:TM you ordered a Shuttle to go to Autobot City, again if Lazerbeak never spied on the Autobots, the Decepticons would have noticed a Shuttle leaving Moonbase II and pursued it. You had a chance to kill Megatron once and for all, but you had to stall to hear Megatron, you had a "GOLDEN" opportunity to finish him off and end that 9 million war that devastated a planet.

 

From what I can remember I don't think any other Transformer has had that problem before, I can't even think of many other times in other fiction a character has had that problem. (Although I'm sure it's plenty.)



I can't wait till my Cloud Rodimus arrives.

 

how do we know that Hot Rod DIDN'T conspire with Megatron to have Optimus killed, maybe so that HE could become the new leader..that would make an interesting story line..maybe a fan fic... it can be called "Transformers-Conspiracy files"..

 

i never got why he reverted to hot rod without the matrix but optimus never returned to orion pax...

 

Hot Rod had just been warned by Kup to stay away from Megatron. If Hot Rod had seen the gun Megatron was reaching towards and wanted to stop him, he could have shot him with the guns mounted to his arms. He had already crushed Kickback's head in car-mode and shot at the Autobot shuttle, we can tell he had no issues with seriously wounding a Decepticon. Also, Hot Rod would likely have known that Optimus wouldn't shoot an Autobot in the way.

But this is circumstantial evidence, let's go a little deeper. Up to that point in the film, its seen that Decepticons fire purple lasers, and Autobots fire orange/red lasers. The first volley that hits Optimus, clearly from Megatron, are purple. But look at the color of the last shots in the 2nd volley...

 

the story line goes something like this,,Hot Rod is a young punk who wants so bad to be the autobot leader, so he studies the history of the Matrix and realized all he had to do is be the first one to touch it after Optimus's spark enters into it and he automatically becomes leader, so he makes a deal with Megatron, by giving him the energon needed to kill Optimus, hence allowing him to kill him in a couple shots, this would make megatron happy because he finally would have a chance to kill him, so megatron kills Optimus. while waiting for Optimus to die Hot Rod stands by him as he's dying just waiting for him to die so the matrix will come out of his chest. optimus dies and drops the Matrix, hot rod catches it acting like he caught it so that it wouldn't break, he hands it to ultra magnus knowing that UM couldn't now be the leader since he wasn't the first one to touch it..fast forward to the end, Galvatron,allows Hot Rod to take the matrix from him, as part of the deal, and Hot rod becomes Rodimus Prime, later on Galvatron was told that there is a decepticon matrix and understood about the autobot matrix from Hot Rod, that's how he knew so much about it...

 

Ugh, I so hate the claim that Rodimus killed/cause Optimus's death. It's just blatantly not true from numerous angles. It's just people putting their emotional reaction to Optimus's death and blaming Rodimus.

 

And this whole thing could have been avoided if Hot Ro would of listened to Kup and not interfered.

 

That's for the courts to decide.

 

Fiction Toy Courts exist?

 

It was a kids movie. Optimus was doomed regardless of Rodimus.