Cemetary Wind / Decepticons

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  1. Chromia76

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    I never thought of that! That WOULD also explain the 'bot we see getting torn apart in Lockdown's "trash" incinerator. No confirmation for sure, of course, but it's entirely plausible.
     
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    I'm not meaning to sound condescending here...sincere apologies if it came across that way.

    I'm totally with you on the whole we-ran-out-of-Decepticons-so-let's-start-killing-Autobots-for-their-metal thing. I was just being sarcastic about the comment you made regarding Attinger and Cemetary Wind KNOWING who Ironhide/etc. is. Of course he does! He just doesn't care.

    Good point about his "superiors," btw. That never really is directly stated.

    Nonetheless, I still think it's pretty clear he's just feeding them a line of b.s. to keep up his cover-story there.

    And, like I said, I'll more than happily grant that there may well be random Decepticons scattered here and there, I'm just saying that the narrative thrust of the movie is that Attinger and Cemetary Wind are hunting Autobots under the cover-story that they're actually Decepticons, so when he talks about hunting Decepticons-of-equal-numbers-to-the-known-Autobot-survivors it's pretty safe to assume he's actually talking about the Autobots instead.

    Especially considering the fact that even after Megatron's revived again not one single Decepticon apart from him is ever seen in the entire three-hour movie.
     
  3. Chromia76

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    No worries, man. :)  I figured it was just another case of not being able to understand over the internet.



    True.....do you not count the KSI drones that Galvatron activated and infected as Decepticons? They all seemed to follow Galvatron's orders, and did so on their own, though none of them spoke any intelligible lines....I think the two-headed Shockwave says something in Cybertronian, as does the Trax when it shoots down the Autobot ship.

    Though you do have a point that none of the potential Decepticons-in-hiding are ever seen...I wonder if they'll show up in TF5 so Galvatron has some others to command.
     
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    If that werre true, then why didn't he try and go after Hound, Drift, Crosshairs and Bee, he KNEW that they were alive, heck, he only really did anyhting to Bee when he attacked him first!
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    Her'es another thing, He must have known cause Attigner Probably Told him that Optimus Prime and the Autobots had attacked KSI......
     
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    Lockdown was mainly after Prime, Prime was his main target. so when he got him, he had nothing more to do here, thus leaving the remain bots to CW to take care of.

    i am sure that if Cade had not found Prime and Prime had not reunited with the other bots, Bee, Hound, Drift and Crosshairs would've been next, as Lockdown wanted to know Optimus whereabouts and he thinks that only the Autobots could know
     
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    Given that it's highly likely that the U.S. Government has pulled the plug on Cemetery Wind, it wouldn't surprise me if nothing about them is brought up at all in the next movie.
     
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    I think Lockdown usually hung back during most missions, only really getting involved with Autobots or if CW couldn't handle the job. Maybe a bigger 'Con like Brawl or Blackout, that body-type. NEST had a ton of trouble with bigger ones like Devcon or Demolishor, it's reasonable to assume they'd need help fighting big ones like them without the aid of the Autobot forces.

    On that note, it probably was easier to hunt the Decepticons. If they went after Bumblebee or something, they'd have to play it very close to the chest to prevent Bee from getting outside a perimeter. Maybe some kid watching would go "Hey they're killing Bumblebee!" Kinda like how they were trying to keep Demolishor and Sideways inside a depopulated zone to prevent the public from seeing what they're doing.
     
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    Wow, a lot of people think the Decepticons are still around after DOTM...

    It's possible. But I think there weren't around, it was more CW was created to search for Optimus Prime under the guise of exterminating ALL Transformers, regardless of their alliance or deeds.
     
  9. Galvatross

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    He may have known they were alive, but there's no indication he knew where they were. Lockdown and Cemetery Wind didn't necessarily know where every surviving Transformer was.

    Also, since the Creators sent Lockdown, and Lockdown's priority was obviously Prime, once he nabbed Optimus his priority was to take him back to the Creators. Besides, I seriously doubt Lockdown and Lockdown's crew are the only ones working for the Creators that could be used against any remaining Transformers.

    Another thing is I think Cemetery Wind's success was because of Lockdown...Attinger even calls him "my asset." I think he likely was involved in the vast majority of their missions. Also, I don't think the Cons would be easier to take out than Autobots, because the Autobots would have reservations about fighting back.
     
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    The cons all died in DOTM so there was no need to hunt them down in TF4
     
  11. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    That wouldn't surprise me in the least.

    I think that too.
     
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    not all of them, keep in mind Lennox said the Decepticons were all over the world and we saw said Decepticons launching the pillars in other places in the world. so not every Decepticon died in DOTM, as not all of them were in Chicago the only ones that died were Some Protoforms and the main guys (expect Megatron, who was still alive according to Brains). but the rest of the Protoforms were still at large and kicking
     
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    I hope one or more of the Decepticon characters for TF 5 is a survivor of Lockdown's and Cemetery Wind's joint hunts, and as a result the Decepticons hate humanity even more than previously, but that they also realize the danger of the Creators and their minions.
     
  14. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    That would be cool.
     
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    There were still some left around the world, the ones who launched the pillars in Hong Kong and Venezuela and everywhere else.

    Were they all gone by AOE? Probably. But there definitely were some left after DOTM; possibly quite a lot considering how many pillars had to be launched.
     
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    The Cons need personality too. I would love to see a shell-shocked Con with a burning hatred of humans.

    I'm hoping for something similar to the Autobot reunion in AOE as Galvatron rallies the scattered Cons that have either stayed hidden after Chicago or were lucky to escape Lockdown/Cemetery Wind.
     
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    I totally agree.
     
  18. Decepticons

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    Wholeheartedly agree. Bonecrusher's character is described as having a burning hatred for basically everything, though we never bluntly saw that in the movie.
     
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    the decepticons by nature would be harder to kill....They would have no hesitation @ deploying their weapons against humans hunting them as to where it seems the autobots were tardly challenged @ even raising a weapon to defend themselves....
     
  20. Vulcan

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    It was all about Prime. Lockdown told Ratchet he had one chance to live: give up the location of Optimus. Considering he was telling the truth, I could easily see Decepticons willingly helping Lockdown ferret out Optimus, but the Cons were probably merc'd, before Lockdown started offering immunity.