Thank you so much. You took the words right out of my mouth, friend.
It's upsetting to know that Hasbro seems to be walking right into the same CN trap it hit with TFA. But if they haven't learned from their mistakes I guess that's their own problem. Even if this new RID does miraculously end up being as good as TFA (and I'm not holding my breath on that one) it'll probably finish with the same fate.

 

i agree, adventure time is doing well compared to other shows of that genre. the main problem is the fact that CN and Nick just dont know how to manage shows like they used to. transformers was a perfect example aswell as the legend of korra. when toonami fell, everything fell. where do you put action shows, or shows about nonesense (not in a bad way, i really mean shows without direct plot like 15 minute shows these days) back then it was in the afternoons for reruns on toonami for shows like transformers, gundam, and totally spies (which was very popular for boys and girls) and fridays they will show of the new stuff. saturday will be for the general shows like new episoes of billy and mandy or fosters home. saturday night will then be toonami and adult swim will pick up from there.

 

Valid points .. I tip my hat to you sir.

Next Avengers was what I was thinking, had to look it up, for some reason I thought it was a short lived series and not a movie.

 

Maybe I'm missing something here, but even if Cartoon Network drives the new series face first into the ground, it's not like Hasbro doesn't have options, such as Discovery Family (people are quick to forget it seems) or even Netflix.

CN has nothing to do with the production of the show, just the distribution in the US. So if they don't want it, Hasbro can (probably) take it and shop it to whomever they please (if they believe in their product).

Though here in Canada, none of this matters as it will likely end up on Teletoon anyways.

 

Well, perhaps not. The show is still produced by Hasbro Studios, it's just airing on CN. Worst case, the show could concievably move to another network if CN starts trouble.

  Yup. Good ol' Teletoon. Pretty much everything gets dumped into there or YTV. How convenient!

 

i honestly regret insulting animated before i saw it. it was an incredible homage to long time fans and at the same time great for new fans. i truly hope for a sequal (either than or japan takes control again and fix the unicron trilogy so people dont have to go on the wiki to understand the unicron singluarity and its ability to make fan fiction legitimate or just make a new line). prime was ok if you wanted to see the bay films without michael bay although the story still went against everything TF fans knows

 

I hope some of the Toys are cool, other then that, I'll just watch G1 and Beast Wars on DVD. I'm so sick of these Kiddy Crap Cartoons we have been getting lately. The only American Cartoon that's even worth watching is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and That's about it.

 

Personally that's what I was hoping for from the get go. Just go straight to Netflix, not even bother with Cartoon Network. They might not have a hand in its production, but that doesn't mean they won't pull the same airtime crap like they did with Animated.

Cartoon Network: if it's not Adventure Time or Regular Show, then it's as good as dead.

 

Gonna challenge the validity of this.. They're supeheroes, there isn't a damn thing I want to find relatable with them. I want to watch a hero punch the villain in the face and knock him 3 miles away, rather than find out he can't pay the rent. I don't go to the movies or read the comics to see if my favorite hero clips coupons, can't parallel park, just can't seem to talk to girls.. They are beyond what we can relate to and that's what makes them who they are. That's what started the fascination, nearly 100 years ago, forget the grounded in reality BS that just recently started, they're made up characters that stretch the imagination in believabiltiy. Do I think that everyone in NYC made it out of every building that got destroyed in Avengers, or that the death toll wasn't in the billions in Man of Steel? Who cares, suspend belief and enjoy the characters for what they are. More than you and I will ever be

 

I still don't get why there's so much Prime hate. I can't really be objective, since I enjoyed the frak out of it, so I just don't understand. Sure, the writing had iffy points, and the story could have been tightened up some, but how is that different from any other work of fiction in existence? How is that different from any other Transformers series?

Am I just more accepting, or blind to what's 'wrong' with it? Or is this another example of Transformers Ruined Transformers FOREVER?

 

The one thing I want to ask here is....Why? Why in the entire universe would Hasbro consider going back to having their next TF show air on the one station that countless screwed them up a dozen times in the past not to mention other action shows in current years?! It'd be one thing to have it air on Discovery Channel but CN's track record with action shows is infamous for a reason! This is a REALLY terrible idea and it's already likely killed the show's chance of having a proper end before it's time.  

I know that CN's under new management but I still don't have faith in them. Maybe they'll surprise us. Also like people here said why couldn't Hasbro just air it on Netflix?! It'll have a much better chance there or at least make a back up plan to air the rest of the series there should CN decides to can it which they'll likely do.

 

Media conglomerates rule!  
(Teletoon and YTV are owned by the same company)

That said, for me, it would be more convenient if it landed on YTV. I can't seem to make a good enough case to my wife add the bundle that Teletoon lives on to our TV package.  

 

Well fuck… RIP…

 

As someone who works in the industry, I suggest you let DC know this. Seeing as how their ever changing re-imaginings, uncharacteristic "badassification" of their characters, and constant crisis rehashes and creative shots to the head only proves my point, and what little confidence they have in their characters.

As for not wanting your heroes relatable... Even Goku had a wife and kids.  

 

I don't know. I watched both, and I liked both. Infact I liked most of the Transformers cartoons I watched and not a single one came off as perfect to me, ESPECIALLY not the G1 cartoon (but holy hell it was still fun to watch). Both had great moments, and both had really... uh... I want to just pull my hair out and kick the tv off the stand moments.

The problem I had with animated (besides CN) was its slow start, and Sari. GRANTED, both got better as the show progressed, and the worst thing to happen to the show was that by the time it was over, it had gotten so good that I didn't want it to end. Prime, for me, I felt had a pretty okay start, was rolling forward at a good pace, aaaaaand then the first half of the second season happened. BAM, momentum lost, Hasbro lassoed in Beast Hunters and royally mucked up a lot of the plans, which is why the second half of the second season was rushed like Sonic the Hedgehob on crack, and while I did enjoy the 3rd season, I did accept it's end. Not in a 'thank god it's over' way but in a 'yay, the end... all is well, time to move on'.

But yeah, I like both shows for different reasons. I don't get why some people feel as if you're not ALLOWED to, but if that's how they want to enjoy the franchise, then that's alright with me, I guess.

It's all Transformers to me.
(Oh, except the idea of the Aligned Continuity is totally crap... that I will forever agree on when people rant their hatred about Prime.)

 

How did CN fuck up with Animated?

I ask because from MY viewing experience it was treated fairly well. Fact they started airing Season 2 right after Season 1 ended and it was a few months later that Season 3 happened.

 

If this actually ends up being true and not accidental misinterpretation of rumors, then Hasbro is far more desperate to get Transformers back up and running properly than we thought. Prime failed, AoE failed, HUB failed, going back to CN will effectively show that the franchise has been floundering ever since 2010. And no, the movies don't count because Hasbro doesn't get the full Billion dollar profits from DOTM and AoE, that's supposed to be made up through the toy sales (which some people seem to be constantly forgetting is the entire damn point of the films in the first place) and they've just been tanking.

Outline Prime's plot, then outline TF: Energon's plot, and compare.

They are far more similar than you would think until you strip away the outer layers and see they're...more or less the same damn thing.

Bad timeslots at times when kids wouldn't be watching, the fact they had the audacity to have some asshole host blabber all through the end credits of "A Bridge Too Far, Pt. 2" (the one where it's just Megatron and Starscream bantering about how they hate each other adrift in space), and it was partially their call to only make a partial Season 3, the greatest crime of all given what could have been according to the AllSpark Almanacs.

 

Yeah, I've at least given all the various series a fair shake (at least the ones released stateside), and have only found Energon and Robots in Disguise (2001) to be ones that I can't really get into.

They all have good, they all have bad, and they're all Transformers.

(Aligned continuity doesn't bother me much as a flagship thing, mostly because I just know it's separate from the other continuities, and I cut my teeth on AUs way back in my youth thanks to Marvel  )

EDIT:

Couldn't get far enough into Energon to actually recognize a plot, I'm afraid.

 

People were still able to watch TFP despite not having Hub on other countries, like TFP aired here on Cartoon Network.

 

Basically, it's crap CGI animation telling the story of constant mcguffin hunts every single episode, somehow leading up to the revival of Unicron...except they defeat him halfway through so they just dick around for a few more episodes before they bring him back...only to kill him again after he possesses Megatron (sound familiar?) and they finally dispatch him by throwing him into the heart of a celestial body.

And everybody despised the loudmouthed human kid mcguffin.