I hope you're not being too serious here. It would be fairly ridiculous for a 3P to come out and say "Hey, this product only fits with these types of figures, but would look silly in that group." People need to make their own assessment of what they think fits in with their displays and scales and preferences. Figures like the Warbo combiners have such high sales because some people view them as MP and some view them as classics. If they purposely chopped off either of those buyers, they'd probably halve their sales and then we all lose out. Personally, I think this guy fits great with the existing MPs.

 

Cool beans. Gives us the option and mixing and matching the faces and ears to achieve the best results. Keep up the great work!

 

I can't wait for this to come out, and I love the fan interaction.

 

Was it explained how the height adjustable feature works? And what the tolerance is? Just says mm.

 

Everyone is allowed to have an oppinion .

I think the implication with masterpiece figures is that they are supposed to be near perfect. That said If you remove scale from the equation then it's not really a masterpiece is it? This looks like an eyesore next to mp sideswipe in robot mode because his head is way too big among other things. If these guys made a sideswipe to match this release I would buy this, but because he doesn't look masterpiece enough standing next to mp sideswipe due to scale Im going to wait and see what happens.

 

In a way.... I'm inclined to agree with this guy! All the pictures of this guy were awesome up until the final couple of pictures where he was displayed with other masterpieces, then it became apparent it isn't quite up to snuff in the masterpiece department. I don't know what it is but something just seems off with thee guy, his chest area seems a bit too flat, and his head looks massive, definitely will require a video review before I even consider buying!

 

I agree with everything you say, in fact. Spinout *definitely* fits in great with the existing MPs - I was enthusiastic from the get-go, and I've been blown away by the most recent prototype images. I'm also no collection Nazi - everyone should mix up their collections how they want, obviously. My point was solely in relation to Omnigonix mentioning that in the future they might want to create some MP-quality figures that deviate much more from the G1 source material (more like a Classics approach but with MP engineering, as I understand it). Whether people choose to display such figures (if any are ever made) with their other MPs is up to them, of course; I was merely saying that, given the G1 expectations of many MP collectors, it might just be a good idea when revealing such figures to say, "Hey, this is our own take on an MP-quality and scaled figure, but we're not trying to make it fit in with what Takara are doing, please take it for what it is" - purely to nip in the bud the inevitable moans about the vehicle mode being wrong or whatever (from people like me   ). On the other hand, I do agree with OptimusTimelord that such updating of characters would be better if they were targeted at Alternity or Binaltech collectors.

  Are we looking at the same figure?   Those recent proto pics, to me, show just how well this fits in with the other MPs - QC aside, the design is giving Takara a run for their money. (With the caveat that I haven't seen the transformation yet - I hope it's as fun to transform as the MP car bots.)

 

Massive is a little exaggerated. It's not disproportionate to his body.

I love MP Sideswipe but if a 3p made that figure you would hear these same type comments about how his car hood chest is too bulky in bot mode. MPs are not perfect. They all have something a little bit awkward but they are close enough for me. This looks like it fits right in with the line and definitely meets the standard Takara set.

 

In the recent pics, there is a close up of him with Sideswipe, and I actually thought his head looked kind of small in comparison. As for those complaining about his height being off, is there a chance that he could come with platforms for his bro?  

 

I actually think he looks very nice beside the other MPs. Ever look at a G1 Sunstreaker standing with other G1 cars? To me this has the same vib

 

I get a kick out of the whole "out of scale' complaints. The entire G1 cartoons were in and out of scale so many times it was mind boggling.

I mean, Megatraon is a huge beast of a bot, and yet is supposed to change into a tiny little gun, no complaints. Soundwave is also another beast of a bot and is supposed to change into a cassette deck that fits in a humans hand, no complaints. Then the notorious of them all, the seekers which should tower over Optimus Prime and Megatron easily and yet, they are about the same size or smaller again no complaints.

Then we have Kronos (Jetfire) who is noticeably larger than all the MP's thus far, and yet his alt mode isn't big enough to house a team of Autobots, no complaints, but dammit, Streaker can't be a cm taller than Sidewsipe, it's just doesn't compute!!!! LOL This fandom is hilarious sometimes

 

I agree. I think he looks awesome! Great job, unnamed artist! Hoping Omni finds a good shop to go with so that they don't fall victim to shoddy QC.

 

I think that is what this post is about. If the shin doors are properly in place, then he's taller. If the are swung back (like in the first picture) he can be a bit shorter.

Also, bit of an oddball question, but is Omnigonix planning on making the windshield wiper removable for robot mode? Right now all the prototype robot mode pictures have a peg hole for the wiper, which implies it might be a separate piece. Instead of molding as part of the windshield like on Sideswipe.

 

Well, I think the issue is you fail to understand what the people who care about scale find important. They aren't worried about mass shifting. That's part of the show and so its accepted. What most people care about is that the bots align as they were "supposed" to in the cartoon, and, secondarily for many, that alt modes within a certain type of vehicle (such as cars next to cars) look good next to each other when displayed that way.

As for the discussion about whether this is MP aesthetically...I think it is, and I think it fits. That said, there is something about the chest area that looks unfinished to me. It's not the chest/roof piece itself. I agree it's large but at the same time I recognize that physics dictate it be so. No, it's the blocky section behind it and on which it sits that looks unfinished. So much of that is visible in bot mode and it seems a bit unrefined, if that makes sense. Like Maleware I hadn't really noticed it until these last pictures, and color paint may fix the issue so that it blends in more and is less noticeable. Not a deal breaker but right now it is bothering me a bit.

 

I don't think wipers will be removable. Its a separate piece but probably glued on before it is packaged.

 

Scale is when all are in bot mode or when all are in alt mode but robot mode trumps, because you can't change mass. ASTROtrain was a tad taller than the seekers, he could transform and carry most of the bots, that doesn't mean anyone expects the toy to do that. Scale in bot or toy mode, can't have both always. In the case of the autobot cars, I think you can.

 

I don't have any issue Sunstreaker being slightly taller than Sideswipe. Big fucking deal! If you don't like don't buy it. Just because they are the same car doesn't mean they have to be the same size. I like to think because they have different transformations that in some way it would effect height. Even in real life. Now if they had the same transformation? Then yes I might have a problem. The G1 toy was bigger anyways. And we all know I'm all over g1. So Spinout is a little taller than Sideswipe? Who gives a flying fuck? Spinout is badass and looks cool enough to pass for Sunstreaker. Be happy with that.

 

The chest looks fine, it's the lack of paint that kind of makes it appear to be something it's not. When Omni showed off the pics with the other bots on a slight angle, it looked fine, plus he also mentioned it was a combo between something inspired from the G1 toons to something new.

If you look at the classics deluxe Sunstreaker, the chest also looks wide (depending on the angle you look at it from, but we all know it's the exact same mold used for Sideswipe and Red Alert, the only difference is the twists transformation.

If you are looking at the G1 toon, Sunstreaker at times looks like he has Bumblebees chest. Panda's digibashes make it look like it's most likely intended to look (as per Omnis hints) and with the paint added on, it won't even be noticeable.

I care about scale too, and this project is not out of scale as noted by many cartoon pics posted with Swipe and Streaker together, Streaker is a scootch taller, a CM hardly makes it out of scale when the vehicle modes are the exact same size. The whole 'scale' thing is silly when the entire series is full of mass shifting. People are wanting cartoons representations while having the figures duplicate real life vehicles. It's a case of wanting ones cake and eating it too. To those I say, make your own if others work isn't good enough. I think we are even lucky someone decided to make a Sunstreaker, because lord only knows when Takara and Hasbro will get around to him. Takara is on what? MP-22 now? While Hasbro is on MP-04? This is a very good representation of a G1 character, and probably the only one we'll see for quite sometime.

I don't even know why this is an issues anymore considering the designer has already stated, it is what it is, and kudos to them for sticking by their design.

Buy it or don't.

 

He is in scale though, that's what some people in this thread have over looked when it's been pointed out (quite a few times, even by those on the fence about him), the only thing that makes him look out of scale is his transformation. Streaks legs extend from the front while Swipes come from the back. Lamborghini have slightly shorter back ends compared to the front ends which means there will be more play with a front end compared to the back.

He's totally in scale both ways, cartoon accuracy or real life accuracy. Omni nailed it.

 

This fig looks amazing so far. He definitely is in scale. I'm cool with a cm taller than Sideswipe, its still in range. Now if it were having a Bumblebee the same size as Sideswipe, then I would be opposed to it.

I hope Omnigonix uses a paint scheme similar to the photo shop pics. Hopefully we'll get some early Q/C reviews so I can buy this fig once it hits shops!