How is TFP related to WFC/FOC?

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by Ironhide1234, Aug 20, 2014.

  1. bellpeppers

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    The linking of them was all an afterthought for marketing purposes.
     
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    Pretty much this. Hasbro just shoved them together because they followed the same "basic" storyline.
     
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    How is it for 'marketing purposes' if it's not actually used for, y'know, marketing? It's not like WFC had a sticker on its cover saying "Prequel to the upcoming TRANSFORMERS PRIME cartoon!" or anything.

    They're linked because they both drew from the "Binder of Revelation", hence the shared use of Dark Energon and whatnot.
     
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    I actually think its the other way around, the games are more accurate and the show isn't. FoC/WFC takes alot of inspiration from the Exodus and Exiles, there are some differences but its not alot. The show has alot more differences like the whole Dark energon thing, Trypticon, and soundwave choosing not to talk.

    I remember Cliffjumper and Jazz helping Autobots board the Ark and I assume he boarded the Ark as well. His good friend Jazz made it on, I don't know why Cliffjumper wouldn't.
     
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    Which is why as a cartoon, PRIME succeeded, as games WfC/FoC succeeded, independently Rescue Bots succeeds and the books succeed...

    ... but as an all encompassing continuity that is clearly supposed to be a direct continuity instead of a continuity family (read the Covenant of Primus like I did) Aligned is such a massive fail.

    And if HASBRO wanted it as loose as they did, then it's en even bigger fail yet.

    Where did the continuity exist? Not in the toys. Not in the fiction- except in later seasons of PRIME (not Rescue Bots) and in the even later Covenant.

    It only exists on paper, and the only people who knows it exists is the fandom.
     
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    Yes, they are seperate projects. TFP, the novels, BH comic and the Covenant do fit together though and i consider them a thing - Aligned.

    The execution and bringing together by Hasbro of what i consider a extremely rich story told in all these different media was a failure. Something more needed to tye it altogether but it didnt.

    I think they had something so good, Aligned has everything in it and it even honors and looks to make better on G1, but reading tfw comments its lost on people. It's all just Animated good TFPbad mkay.

    I dont think Hasbro quite made the most of Aligned, i mean its the most complete Transformer verse, surely. Most the tfw community here dont give a shit. Indicative or not its seems a shame.

    Anyway, Aligned is awesome!
     
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    Fixed that for you cause, lets face it, this whole continuity BS is a convoluted mess shoved in a blender ...
     
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    buzzer ring. it was mentioned in BH when Miko mentioned them. and the insectecons are drones in my opinion.
     
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    Hasbro has never said or implied that Aligned is a continuity family. As far as they are considered, the entirety of Aligned is a single continuity line. They consider Exodus and WFC to be telling the same story (even though they aren't) and Prime to come directly after that. Hell, the name "Aligned" makes this obvious in the first place. The idea of a "continuity family" goes against what Aligned set out to achieve. A "family" of continuities is not an "aligned" continuity. I know that makes absolutely no sense, but that is the official position on the matter.

    Part of the problem is that I'm fairly certain WFC, right up until its release, was stated to be a prequel to G1 (which it still doesn't work well as). Hasbro decided afterwards, seemingly against the game designers' desire considering they still referred to FOC as G1 during its development, to lump it in as a prequel to Prime instead and that's where the headaches started. I don't recall WFC ever being thought of as anything either then G1 until after the game was out for a decent amount of time.

    Basically, the concept of Aligned is a mess.

    ... Also the whole "Megatron wants to be Prime" thing was never in WFC or FOC. The war had been raging long before Optimus (notably not called Orion in WFC) gained the position after Zeta (not Sentinel) Prime.
     
  11. Sol Fury

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    Actually, I recall being at Botcon when this all came up. Hasbro called it a squint test and I recall the man who wrote the whole thing - J.E. Alvarez - saying outright it was meant to be like the way the G1 comics, cartoon etc fit together.

    In other words, yes, a continuity family.

    The reason it is so loose is because Hasbro at the time was wanting to focus on having the various media tell good stories first - so the onus was on FoC to be a good game, for Prime to be an entertaining show, for the toys to be toys - rather than make anyone compromise on their bit of creativity to serve the needs of another.
     
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    Quoted for accuracy.
     
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    Read Sol's response.

    As for the "Megatron wants to be a Prime", well fine, forget it. Too specific. Let me do it again...

    * Thirteen defeat Unicron, then disappear or die off
    * Golden Age of Transformers on Cybertron ends when Megatron wants to be in charge of Cybertron. Optimus becomes the new Prime.
    * The war renders Cybertron uninhabitable and most of the population leaves.
    * Many adventures in space happen.
    * Optimus and Megatron arrive on Earth and duke it out.
    * Unicron briefly surfaces, revealed to have formed Earth's core but is defeated.
    * Omega Lock is discovered and after being destroyed once, is used to restore Cybertron.
    * Unicron returns but gets sealed away by Optimus, who sacrifices himself to restore Cybertron's ability to create new life.

    Happy? Whether or not he wanted to be a Prime, he wanted to be in charge. Primehood = political power over Cybertron.
     
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    Thats how I see it- same basic events, some basic plot points (like dark energon), and bits of the same basic story...but beyond that each piece under the Aligned umbrella was free to wiggle around, ignore the details, and do whatever it wanted.

    Tbh it's never bothered me, though I can see where it might bother others.
     
  15. Autovolt 127

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    Yup This.

    Debate's over.