"Be prepaaaaaareeeddd!" 

 

When Bumblebee's Prime, what will that make Galvatron?

Mojo's uncle.

"yeah b prepared we'll b prepared... for wat?"

"For the death of the Prime!"

"wat, is he sick?"

"No fool I'm going to kill him. And his Autobots too!"

 

This seriously would be awesome.

 

"Great idea? Who needs a Prime? (singing) No Prime, no Prime, lala lala lala--"

Yeah he would've been a great choice for Galvatron... or even Keith David.  


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This has my approval. Might make a parody song of Be Preparedi if Aeronath doesn't already.

Thing is though, how much influence does Disney really have on the MCU? It seems to me they just fund the projects while Marvel Studios does the actual work.

 

Agreed. Quality is reputation, Transformers will be it's own killer if it doesn't evolve.

 

The first mistake, is assuming that the movies are even remotely made for the fans. They're not. It's a mainstream summer blockbuster. That's all they're meant to be. A lot of people talk about "They could be so much more! It's what the fans/fandom/franchise/etc. deserves!"

A movie that was done with mostly the fans in mind would be a movie the general audience likely wouldn't enjoy. The point is to appeal to wider audiences, and the Tyran movies do just that.

 

As I said before, it seems as though Disney's been hands-off on the MCU. You may have a point; Disney's simply funding the projects while Marvel Studios does the rest. And considering how much of a powerhouse success the MCU's been, they'll keep that process until they run out of ideas.

 

All I ask is for a fembot voiced by Idina Menzel.

 

these films will never make more money than a good and true transformers movie.
never.

a good movie about transformers with their characters, story, plot, mythology, elements, technology, character development and other things that the universe can offer,
can make more money and attract more people to the franchise than previous films made ​​or any other movie franchises.
transformers that interact between them, use their abilities in robot form or any other form, piloting vehicles and other things they can do.
this is not something hard to do.
with a good director, writer and editors.
with good development, production and post production.
good marketing with all your characters Tf posters, trailers, TV spots, clips and other types of advertisements, transformers may be more than you can imagine.
is more than logical.
with or without michael bay.

which the difficulty of making a good and true transformers movie?
with examples of other films from other franchises and examples of cartoons, comics (idw, Dreamwave, marvel uk and us), books, games, toys concepts, and other sources that the franchise has.

 

Unfortunately you're so wrong.

AOE has already hit the $1bn mark. It will probably go on to do somewhere in the region of $1.3bn - $1.5bn.

Even if a 'good and true' TF movie was created the chances of it out gross DOTM or AOE enough to be able to say 'I told you so' is very unlikely.

For example the gap in performance between DOTM and The Avengers is 'only' approx $400m or approx 25%.

The gap in quality is far greater than 25% in my opinion.

If the 'good and true' TF movie outperformed the best Bay TF movie by 25% or less most moviegoers would still consider them as having performed in pretty much the same ball park.

 

Okay, but here's the rub: what metrics are you using to define quality, and what is the standard for "high"?

You're missing out, then. Gravity Falls rules.

 

Enough about the Lego Movie already.
It was just as much a cash grab as any of the Transformers films. It was also able to be irreverent in a way that a Transformers film can't be due to the differences in source material. So please stop bringing up the Lego Movie as what a Transformers film could be. You're comparing apples and oranges.

This tells me that what you like about those franchises isn't what's viable for those franchises. Like what you like, but also have the common sense to realize what you want may not be best for the franchises you follow.

What ever happened to just admitting that someone likes something you don't? He said he found the films to be high quality. And you ask him "ok prove it"? Please. Cinema's subjective. Maybe he just liked it. Is that no longer good enough? Has the internet become so infested with faux-intellectuals that we have to construct a bs argument to justify everything we find enjoyable?
Look. I went into AoE expecting to see a bad movie that had enough enjoyable action to make it a worthwhile experience. Instead I saw a movie I legitimately liked. Is it Oscar material (special effects aside)? No, but it doesn't have to be. It was a movie that I enjoyed. I liked it. That should be good enough for you. Just as your opinion of not liking it is good enough for me.

 

Art is subjective up to a certain degree. There is a fine line between thinking something is good, and it actually being good. I'll give a music example. It's okay to say you enjoy Lil Wayne. That's perfectly fine. However, if you say that Lil Wayne is a better musician than Beethoven, you are wrong. Beethoven wrote nine symphonies, 2 of which everyone in the world know the main themes to (5th and 9th). Beethoven wrote complex melodies with frequent time signature and key changes. His music was diverse, ranging from soft piano sonatas to bombastic overtures. He paved the way for the Romantic era of music Beethoven is clearly the better musician, by galactic proportions. It doesn't matter if you don't like Beethoven, and like Lil Wayne. Beethoven's music is clearly of higher caliber than Lil Wayne.

It's the exact same thing here, bud. Cinema is an art, just like music, dance, and painting. There are good works and bad ones. Transformers is not a good piece of cinema. It just isn't. Now, it's fine if you enjoy more than other movies, but to say it's better than, for example, Inception, or The Lord of the Rings movies, is just wrong. Because it clearly is not better than those movies. It doesn't matter if you like Transformers more. Those films are clearly better than Transformers. LET ME BE CLEAR, nothing wrong with enjoying Transformers more more than other films. Absolutely nothing wrong. But to say that Transformers is high quality cinema is just nonsense.

 

Michael Bay is cool! I'm glad he's back

 

What does being cool have to do with anything? The fact of the matter is Michael Bay makes sub-par movies. Granted, he has an eye for action set pieces, but other than that his movies are just awful. Honestly, I can't believe the majority of people here are actually happy about this news. It baffles me. Don't you guys like good movies? Don't you guys treasure the art of Cinema? Do you guys like bad acting? God-awful dialogue? How can anyone see this as a good thing? Good for the studios, of course, but not for the audience. I just want a good director and screenwriter. For those who've seen Guardians of the Galaxy, I challenge you to tell me you wouldn't want a Transformers movie on that level. Sadly, looks like I'll 50 years old before we get a good Transformers movie.

 

Oi who do you think you are dude?! Cuz I like Bay and his movies doesn't mean I don't like good movies. You don't know me or what I like! Unlike you I can enjoy movies without moaning about the crap parts!

 

But don't you wish you could get a Transformers movie without crap parts? A Transformers movie that was good all the way through? And if you're going to give the whole "art is subjective" BS argument that has been beaten to death, then I encourage you to read my previous post.

 

I understand and yes I'd love a transformers film good all the way through! I'm just sayin, bro, I love these movies and I'd like bay to finish what he started! To me it's like Peter Jackson deciding to let someone else make hobbit part 2 and 3...get what I mean?

 

Yeah, I get you. And it's perfectly fine if you enjoy it. I have no problem with that. I just wish people would be a little more up in arms about this, instead of being complacent. I really want to see a different take on the franchise. It doesn't even have to be a reboot. I think it would be really interesting to see what another director could with the world Micheal Bay has built.