damn theres some serious knowledge being thrown around here, unfortunately interspersed with some ignorant n00bish queries. kudos, obscure TF knowledge boffins! also, congrats MG and thx for sharing!
Well said. Personally I honestly don't think it really matters if it's "legit" or not; for a start. look how much we've all seen "Lunchtime Specials" go for. Also, when something looks that damn good, and its owner is happy with it, that's all that counts.
There are a few Lucky draw rodimus's: The one above ofcourse! and these http://www.luckydrawtransformers.com/index.php?/pages/godprimus.html (pics of a gold rodimus prime 'god primus') and the superlink gold/silver/black ones: http://www.luckydrawtransformers.com/index.php?/pages/silverrodimusconvoy.html (no pics) Good luck saving for them! - there may be pics on Yahoo japan... Edit: Doh didnt read all the pages on this thread - can you tell i'm new here?
after reviewing the visual evidence myself, my gut feeling says its legit to. the way its put together, with the consistencies of typical lucky draws/customs, it shouldve been coordinated better if the guy knew what he was doing. just going by common sense.
Check the edit! I've now read the full story - I have to say to me it looks genuine. I think the price is fair because there is a bit of ambiguity. I'd like it!
Just to clarify that (I'm sure the link does, but it's not working for me), the black one was not a lucky draw. It was some form of limited release akin to the Galaxy Force DVD repaints. Price ranged from $50 (close to release) and runs closer to $100 now, while the LDs start around $300 each.
Nah, the Targetmaster engine hole is noticibly larger. This is just the normal one. Here, compare: http://seibertron.com/toys/fullsize.php?id=45&size=1&image=18
Wow! That thing must be like the Honus Wagner basecall card of Transformers (i.e. as rare as a still-bleeding steak). Nice score!
both sides offer good arguement but if it was given to takara employee their must be more then one out there and someone to confirm
wait, couldn't someone get ahold of hasbro/takara to trace down the history? I remember something like this happening with the gi joe community. a guy that DESIGNED the defiant decided to sell his personal copy, which was like a misb "case fresh" condition one, and people started questioning his legitamacy (sp) and reasons for posting his auction on a joe forum. it was kinda cool hearing his story about the toy, yet sad that people were criticizing it.
Agreed. This is one of the reason I find it difficult to believe that not one person on two major TF boards has EVER seen one of these. But hey, stranger things have happened, just not likely. I also find it odd that the usual 'in the know' posters have stayed out of this thread for this long.
I am a little confused at this since there is a few things I find odd?if this is a Takara employee product then why did it come in a U.S box and bubble but with a U.K leaflet?Would it have not made more sense if this was a Japan issue exclusive it would have been put together with the Japanese style box and foam and leaflet?I know of things like the minicar X-Mas ornaments Hasbro gave out but they came in a sealed plastic bag?So employee exclusives do exist but if this was put together at Takara at the time I would think it would be more likely to have Jap boxes and paper work lying around as opposed to U.S and U.K?Even the lucky draw and Lunchtime specials we see always come in a Jap style box that I can recall.To make a custom piece like this is not really all that hard so I am not saying it is fake but I would have a hard time believing based on the facts I have seen.Also if Hotrod was not sold in Japan like Skylynx or Jetfire then I could understand them going through the trouble of getting a U.S box,paperwork ect....since it was not available but if this was from 86 then the Jap stuff they could have obtain no problem.My two cents
That's an interesting story, do you remember what board and how long ago? I would love to read up on that.
As I said earlier in the thread, the Japanese packaging may not have been available at the time they made this. That's my theory.
This could be possible but I would think the packaging design for different markets by 86 would have been done at the same time?The one thing I am having trouble understanding is why a U.S box would have a U.K leflet?it is a U.S box correct?Also is the instruction book a U.S verson?Anything is possible like I said as new things are always showing up?Plus a U.S packaged TF ( Gnaw) was offered to the Japan market so your theory cant be considered ruled out as maybe they could have recieved U.S box samples and used them in making this gold Hotrod?
You have to realize that back int he 80's, packaging wasn't done on computers. It was all done by hand and by photographic means. Lots of transparancies and ORIGINAL artwork. I can hardly imagine doing that stuff today... ha! So it would've taken a month or two to get packaging samples. So if the packaging wasn't ready, the threshold of time it would've taken to get a few japanese versions printed up would've been substantial. If the US packaging was ready, and maybe a few boxflat samples were all ready in the Takara office, it makes sense that they would've used them. I can at least add this testimony from a print designer's point of view. The toy looks awesome.
yojoe.com it was probably a year ago, but maybe two. I'm sure searching for words like defiant, designer, paperwork, and auction all at once might bring it up.
