RiD #31 discussion

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  1. TheSpartanD

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    This is possible- Windblade revealed that Transformers don't breathe in the IDW continuity and IDW has pretty consistent record of showing that they are very durable.
     
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    I think the satellite is a lot huger than Galvatron's ship--they'd want to dock any ships they have in there. And I think all of the Cons would rather live in a big, fancy space fortress rather than what is essentially their car.
     
  3. battlefudge

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    You guys are right, but remember he has been effected by combining with Devestator, and has been all but abandon by every bot but Prime and Arcee. Soundwave allows scoop to be there (maybe) he may have deeper plans for Prowl.
    Either way I like how the lines have blurred with Autobots and Decepticons.
     
  4. Haywired

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    I think at this moment Prowl would like all Cons very dead precisely because of the combiner plot. The more painful way, the better.
     
  5. Lord Of Tetris

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    I don't mean this as a slight—as I still think MTMTE and RiD are the most consistently high quality TF fiction we've ever gotten—but the IDW TF franchise does give us seemingly game-changing cliffhangers and resolves them in fairly mundane ways. In that regard, IDW is actually playing the same cliffhanger game that Marvel and DC have been playing for decades.

    I think Prowl pointing his gun at Jazz is a highly dramatic way of getting Jazz to just back down from rescuing Alpha Trion. I've read some of the wilder theories (e.g. Prowl will be villainous, Prowl's mind was changed from being part of Devastator), but the theory that seems most probable to me is the most straightforward. In this very issue, Prowl debates to Prime about his admiration of a weapon that shuts down Decepticons. We may be thrown a swerve-ball, sure, but it really looks like Prowl simply sees Alpha Trion as more useful if he stays plugged into the weapon.

    I'm actually hoping for a Jazz vs. Prowl fight. I'm just speculating, but maybe this is the last straw and Jazz is sick of Prowl's bullshit. Prowl already pointed a gun to Jazz's head. From Jazz's point of view, WHO KNOWS what crazy stuff Prowl's planning. At the very least, Jazz should think Prowl thinks of him as expendable as long as he can use Alpha Trion as a weapon. I'm not interested in seeing Jazz or Prowl fight as enemies, per se, but more like a Batman vs Superman, or Cyclops vs Wolverine fight. You know, where two "good" guys don't get along with each other's philosophy and fight, but not to kill each other.

    Plus, it's been shown that the IDW version of Jazz is far superior to Prowl in terms of hand-to-hand AND weapon skills. I would LOVE to see Jazz fight Prowl. Just for the pure spectacle.
     
  6. optimusmegas

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    say what you will about prowl's motives......but him laughing in that bit with arcee was creepy....since when does prowl laugh?
     
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    Interesting point. Prowl I am not sure he as logical as he once was.

    1. Prowl sees the Constructicons not as Decepticons. (It means that Soundwave and others are Decepticons and the Constructicons are not) If that is the case in a rare instance The Constructicons have more leeway in some ways than most Autobots under the Prowl command. I would guess that the Constructicons in Prowl's view are extension of himself.

    2. Prowl will kill Jazz in an instant. I do mean that Jazz stumbled on to something that Prowl wants secret and I get the impression that it ain't Alpha Trion. Logically the Autobots would find Alpha Trion and try to free him and Prowl probably sees it as matter of time.

    3. Optimus Prime is a weakling Prowl world view. Prowl probably conclude that Optimus is not fit to command the Autobots. Prowl I am guessing that compassion and mercy is sign of weakness.
     
  8. Omegashark18

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    I hope so too, like I said before, remember Springer in AHM?
     
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    Obviously Prowl knows about Scavenger. From his conversation with Arcee, he asks her if she still trusts him...

    Prowl also develops the plan to raid the military base, knowing that the Decepticons will be in the area after leaking the location to them through his double agent.

    I agree with others that he wants to use Alpha Trion for his own ends.
     
  10. Wattro

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    I liked this issue. The jazz part up front was a bit odd but I really liked how the whole issue played out and felt to read. I did think a couple things were weird:

    - jazz's super easy convincing to go to earth
    - how prowl got thru enemy lines so quickly at the end (maybe he set the whole thing up)
    - cosmos travels faster than light speed (this was fairly clever plan I thought) unless he's space bridging
    - galvatron seems like he teamed up with soundwave/decepticons out of boredom, which I like
    - if soundwave wanted just peace and intended to live in peace with the other decepticons then (technically) it's feasible to have just built a new city on cybertron. There's no real need to go to earth is there. Maybe he just needed separation from other decepticons who wouldn't buy in. Maybe explains ravages departure...
     
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    They ruled out continuing to live on Cybertron right in the issue; they'd just end up continuing to fight with the Autobots. Plus, Starscream's still ruler of the planet. With help from Earth, they can at least make a home that is completely their own.
     
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    My point was that if they don't fight, and be peaceful, then the autobots will eventually accept that.
     
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    That scene was too familiar for comfort. It reminds me of a scene earlier in RiD when Prowl says to Wheeljack something like (paraphrasing from memory): "I know I've been acting strange lately, but I've always been ME and you should trust me." (He was under Bombshell's mind control)

    It just brought back deja vu. I rolled my eyes. I've fallen for that line once, shame on me...

    THAT WAS HILARIOUS. In many ways, Galvatron/Soundwave is reminding me of the Megatron/Bumblebee relationship. In both situations, there's a megalomaniac (Megatron/Galvatron) who's used to getting acting like a king and treating others like underlings. And there's a confident person (Bumblebee/Soundwave) who's never had to interact with this guy and doesn't feel like worshipping the guy. Both go about the relationship with maximum exasperation.
     
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    It's not that strange.
    In this continuity we saw obviously FTL capable small shuttles and Cyclonus following FTL capable ships (when he was still under Dead Universe).
    It looks like FTL capable transformers are possible with their tech level.
    FTL capable jet fighters were possible in Star wars, so why not in Transformers? It's a kind of space opera trope.
     
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    And Spacs Bridge technology isn't too common in the IDW G1 universe.
     
  16. PredaconElder

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    Cosmos was one of the largest Autobots on the Lost Light and currently the size of Prime. He probably has some sort of FTL engines hidden on him.
     
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    I can't see that happening. Fighting would probably break out again at some point (you can't control what every Autobot or Decepticon will do...), especially when Soundwave still hates the Autobots and sees them as their oppressors--it's not them he wants peace with. And Starscream would still be ruling over them; Soundwave doesn't want anyone ruling over them.
     
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    Soundwave is an idealist but he still despises the Autobots and what they represents. As for Ravage we still don't know why he is on the Lost Light. The reason to go to Earth is Alpha Trion but we still don't know his reason for visiting the Earth.
     
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    He is supposedly chasing some sort of Mcguffin. Presumably it's the thing that triggers the Combiner War and the Optimus Prime Scramble City combiner seen at Comicon.
     
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    This is the guy who desperately wanted the knowledge to making Phase 6ers.

    Odds are he wants to know how the humans are brain freezing cons. That and I'm sure there's some political twist. Public relations with humans and tampering with Cybertronian tech.

    Plus is it me or is Witwichy way too calm especially while Galvatron is threatening to destroy an entire state?

    Anyone thinks he's one of those Facsimiles used in Furman's run?