Someone half his size imapled him with his own sword, and then a truck came to his rescue. Sorry, I sometimes misunderstand how to use the word "irony" lol.

 

watch the fight again, lockdown had the upper hand almost the entire time until OP got a couple hits on him near the end

 

no don't need to, Prime literally creates the opening he needs to save Cade. Lockdown may have got shots in too, but Prime had the upper hand or else Cade is toast

 

Fortunately he's able to survive literally any blow to the chest in his new form.

 

In g1 Laserbeak and Ravage kick Optimus Prime's butt on several occasions.

 

How is Optimus weak, in the first film he was fighting Megatron while surrounded by humans, so he held himself back (still wish he would have grabbed the cube of Sam and thrust it into Meg's chest himself).

But then in ROTF, he single handedly defeated Megs, Grindor and Starscream in one go before defeating Megs and Fallen together (the Jetfire parts only allowed him to fly...)

and in DOTM, he took down so many Decepticons and was evenly matched with his mentor the whole time, as well as killing Meg's with one arm (still wish that fight was a little longer and less rushed).

And now in AoE, he not only beats Grimlock but also Lockdown (who only got the better of him, because Optimus took the time to kill Grammer).

 

Really?  

 

watch A Prime Problem.

 

1) trying to atleast restrain megs in TF07 would have been better than being voluntarily tossed around into buildings, thus killing people regardless

2) In ROTF megs was much more weakened. But that forest fight showcased how tough optimus should be so no argument there. Jetfires parts also provided a huge energy boost along with equipped rocket launchers. If the other ancient primes couldn't defeat the fallen, there is no way optimus could've without a huge power upgrade

3) Sentinel made optimus his bitch throughout all of DOTM. Sentinel was taking on 3-4 autobots and the army while fighting optimus and STILL winning. He also manhandled optimus during various parts of the movie

4) Lockdown tossed around optimus during most of AOE, it was only till the end that optimus somewhat gained the upper hand

 

I still can't agree to this didn't he hang Lockdown by a chain and then once again rush to save the humans while he had the opening the first time they fought? I'm just not getting this tossed around thing, yes he hung in with Prime more so than others, but tossed around doesn't fit at all in my opinion

 

This exactly. Optimus fought Lockdown twice, the first time they were evenly matched, and Prime had actually managed to chase him off. The second time they were just as evenly matched as before, but it wasn't until he stopped to assist Cade did Lockdown gain the opening to pin him to a wall. It's like people want Optimus to stay this unbeatable killing machine that has since ruined his character in Prime.

Is killing an army of drones single-handedly not enough?

 

I know, I hate his unbeatable presence it bugs the shit out of me!!!! The first time I have actually enjoyed and Optimus vs something fight scene since the forest battle was when Optimus fought Galvatron because they seemed evenly matched and when he fought Lockdown.

 

Seems like people are already forgetting sentinel prime. He kicked OP's ass more than Lockdown ever did

 

Yeah I know Senitnel kicked his ass but you know why I didnt mention him? Because I hated the hell out of his character reason being Shockwave was suppose to be the villian and he became the red herring for Sentinel which is why dotm is my least favorite and other reasons, but I do give them this Sentinel was the best villian for me because he was so unlikeable, he was a douche to the autobots and then he was a douche to the decepticons and Megatron, so they made the perfect villian that everyone hated and no one was rooting for so when Megatron kicked his ass I almost shat myself in happiness and then when prime blew his sentinel's brains out I died of a heart attack.

 

I don't see what the problem is with Optimus getting beat. With the many, many examples we provide in favor of his strength, it should be clear that his beatdowns and losses are only due to stronger/pragmatic opponents. He's not weak, he's just going up against genuine threats, things we all want to see in a movie.

 

What MasterZero said.

Like in TFP, how Wheeljack and Arcee can take on about 15 Vehicons, but then end up only getting captured by a couple.

 

TF1: Megatron's, well, Megatron. The villain is usually super-powerful.
ROTF: Prime was going up against 3 guys his size or bigger in the Forest Battle and easily all stronger than him.
DOTM: Sentinel was Optimus's mentor and thus would be superior to OP.
AOE: Lockdown... Well, this is the guy who somehow managed to capture the Dinobots, so...

 

It depends on the movie.

Transformers 1: he was getting his but kicked by megatron and megatron alone.

Transformers 2: i guess 2 years of fighting warmed him up so that he and ironhide could take out demolisher. If any of you have seen the IMAX version of the forest fight, you will see the fight wasn't completely one sided as they had added a scene with Optimus getting the grab beaten out of him for a few seconds before megatron kicks him in the face and sends him flying. His beat down of the three was like an adrenlien rush basically. The last battle, well megatron in armada couldn't take on jet prime, so of course this would be onesided.

Transformers Dark of the Moon: all battles were onesided in that movie, name one decepticon you saw kill a human or autobot in a fight(Wheeljack didn't die in a fight and sentinel doesn't count) because the decepticons got floored by simple assault rifles, that's just sad. Optimus and everyone else not decepticon was overpowered as hell.

Transformers Age of Exinction: Optimus after being shot to hell held his own pretty well against Lockdown before he fleed with Cade and the others, He was on par with Galvatron then started beating his head into the ground before Lockdown shot him, and Optimus and Lockdown were equal until he got distracted.

 

to be fair, shockwave not putting his eye back in his head was bull. Shockwave, one of the genius's of cybertronians can't but his own huge eyeball back in, but starscream can reattach an arm that was torn off with ease.

 

The thread turned into a nerd-fest type debate so for most the subject is no one's concern, actually everyone repetitively explained the plot purpose as to why Optimus appears weak and disadvantaged. Everyone else just started typing the same thing I said in the first response post except with the addition of unnecessary details just so they can show they're completely redundant. Knowing nobody really cares about redundancy. Just knowing it's for dramatic and plot purposes should be enough that an element like this exists everywhere in media. -.-

It's virtually more or less possible to make sense in lore of the questioning of Optimus's consistency of strength except everyone is looking way too deep into it. The purpose of this thread appears to be having fun whilst discussing I guess.

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How many times did I say everyone?