Dude, you nailed it, but don't bother trying to convince apologists that don't see it that way. You're wasting your time.

 

Apologists?

 

Regardless of the outcome the raid on TSI was meant to specifically kill humans. That's not sound leadership to me. It's just revenge.

Seemed like guilt to me, but that's the beauty of storytelling. Each of us can interpret things to fit our outlook.

Personally, I thought he sucked. You didn't. Someone mentioned the new Superman earlier which I thought was a great correlation.

Not a bad movie, but the absolute worst representation of Superman in my opinion. At least as far as what I want from the character.

 

People rationalizing most of the 2-dimensional, very un-Prime-like stuff he does in these movies as being reasonable turns of character (not being much of a leader, constantly verbalizing his murderous rage, etc..., etc...)

 

I don't think it was to kill humans in general. Just to kill the ONE responsible. Even then, after talking to Joshua, he didn't do anything.

Thing is, I don't think Superman is a good example of Prime, at least not this one. He's more like Thor.

Are you referring to Man of Steel?

Oh. That's because people don't see it as 2-dimensional, very un-Prime like stuff.

People have different views on different things.

I think what Prime did was perfectly understandable and made me like him more as Optimus Prime. He's still not my number one Prime, but he's certainly rose up the ranks.

 

As I said.

 

MasterZero: Yes, Man of Steel.

It was a fine sci-fi movie, but I'll stick to the Donner ones. I won't fault anyone for liking MoS. It just wasn't for me.

 

Being seeks justice for murdering his friends, and the last of his kind, and saves his last human friend from being murdered himself; bloodthirsty beast. Worst Prime ever!

Clearly, there is a disconnect between perceiving adult themes that deal with real issues someone may face during interstellar war, and Saturday cartoons where laser weapons hurt nothing, ever.

 

Optimus 5 Lines In TF5:

1. "I kill you!"

2. "I am Optimus Prime."

3. "I will tear them apart!"

4. "I am Optimus Prime."

5. "One shall stand, one shall......no I just fucking kill you now give me your
face!"

 

You do understand the four movies are not a live-action continuation of the same Prime and Universe from '85?

 

You know I actually like this about this movie for like what's it been like 5 or so years since the first one came out people have been giving that same oh this is a realistic prime whole feels the weight of a centuries long war but that's all just been fan speculation and essentially a bunch of BS fanboy's use to justify his action but here in Age of Extinction is the first time I legitimately feel it. How pissed he is about the deaths of his family his pain and fatigue you can just seen in his movement when he's first introduced Optimus is a character in this man and I love it. And yes his killing Attinger was absolutely justified he had to protect Cade, and btw I love this relationship a whole lot better than his and bumblebee's with Sam and the other movies because Cade isn't a dick to them like Sam always was he helped he cared about Optimus and didn't just scream out for help like the Autobots were his body guards or something.

 

That should be the trailer:

"He was a bot of peace. He put up with our $#!t. He took the slings and arrows that an unhappy and unappreciative race threw at him...until, they pushed him...too far!"

 

Tranformers 5!

Optimus Kills

SLASHING into theaters soon.

 

at the end of the movie he was flying up to space
with a transformer sperm to shove up the a$$ of his creator
that sounds like a bad guy to me

 

With the amount of shit he has gone through i'm not surprised.

Jazz dying, Megatron being hidden on earth and being experimented on by humans, allowing for his revival. The Government being on his ass 24/7, Megatron being allowed to be revived despite the amount of warships stationed there. The All Spark Fragment getting stolen which allowed it, which should of been under his protection, not the humans, Sentinals betrayal, Ironhides death, Cybertron getting destroyed thanks to Sentinal and Megatrons plan, Humans betraying him despite the 3 times he has saved Earth AND Ratchets death.

I'm surprised he hasn't declared the Humans as enemies and started a war against them. I think without Cade he would of done just that. Humans in the movieverse apart from the main ones are fucking morons! xD

 

You mean the creator that sent a bounty hunter to capture him and bring him back to its planet for possible slavery?

 

  Tranformers 6: Optimus Kills Again

Transformers 7: Optimus Keeps Killing and Killing

 

Transformers 8: The Psychotic Rampage of Optimus Prime

 

Lolololololol!! Im in tears you win!

 

Ill throw some money at that.