MOTU Classics

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  1. Chrono Grimlock

    Chrono Grimlock Buttstuff Werewolf

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    I didn't get her because she was or would be worth money though, I'm never going to sell her and she's out of her package. I can't just let such a nice toy be unplayed with!! I do have one disappointment with that though, when I originally got my package with Shadow Weaver she wasn't in the package and the box was all beat up, so someone from the post office claimed her or she fell out, either way she never arrived so I had to fight with Mattel to get a replacement and about a week after I finally got her and sat her on a display my cat chewed her wand almost in half. Oh well.
     
  2. smkspy

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    Except for clawful, leech, grizzlor, man e faces, snout spout, and sy klone.

    Also trapjaw and tp he man, though rarer.

    All vinage found at big lots.
     
  3. transtrekkie

    transtrekkie On the level.

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    I don't object to toys being played with, but if they're expensive, they should be treated well. Not having their wands chewed in half and bashed about by a kid. Heck, I've made a lot of photoshop comics with my toys, so I have no problem playing with them, but what you're describing is just.... I mean, I had SW when she first came out but wasn't able to keep her because I financially needed the money more. And she was already aftermarket at $100 right out the gate. I'd love to have one now, so to hear that there's one that's had this kind of punishment... I just.... it just makes me wanna :cry 
     
  4. transtrekkie

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    Not here they weren't. I'd have shit a brick if I'd seen any of those here (except Sy Klone, I did see him here). Especially Trap Jaw, I think that's my fave figure from this line and I'd love to have been able to get him for that cheap.
     
  5. Chrono Grimlock

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    Trap Jaw was my first real pain in the asses with the line. I had no trouble scoring the first couple figures that year, the day Trap Jaw went on sale with Batttle Cat I only get Battle Cat. I was really pumped because Battle Cat was one of the only vintage toys I kept from my childhood. Waiting for the "reissue" Trap Jaw was absolutely the worst.

    I hope you score a Shadow Weaver some day without paying an arm and a leg.

    As of right now my cat chewed Shadow Weavers wand, TP He-Mans sword, one entire set of weapons from one my Snake Men two packs... Little fucker...
     
  6. smkspy

    smkspy Remember true fans

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    I didn't see any of those either, except for Grizzlor. Still though, they were vintage figures released through BLs, where you were making it seem like the BLs releases were primarily non-vintage, which wasn't the case. It was a pretty mixed bag, just some areas got luckier than others when it came to what they saw.
     
  7. Sportimus

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    those that claimed they found King Grayskull, He-Man, and Trap-Jaw turned out to be untrue IIRC. The only figures that made it to Big Lots stores were:

    - Leech
    - Clawful
    - The Faceless One
    - Adora
    - Icarius
    - Orko/Adam (rare)
    - Grizzlor
    - Man-E-Faces (rare)
    - Sy-Klone
    - Snout Spoiut (rare)
    - Megator
    - Mo-Larr & Skeletor 2-pack

    I think that's all of it. Most of these were a pain in the butt to find, like Mo-Larr and Skeletor. This was because of rotten distribution. Some BL's got a ton of Mo-Larr's while others didn't get any, for example.
     
  8. Extendarr

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    How could you leave out Moss Man? He shelf-warmed like a mother here.
     
  9. Extendarr

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    I can't think of one compelling reason to buy that Baby Skeletor. And I love Robot Chicken and enjoyed the Mo-Larr set.
     
  10. LigerPrime

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    There is no need to PM and after this post I’m done replying to you because you’re not talking sense anymore. It is so obvious that you’re trying to bait me with words like ‘hard on’ and even lumping me with ‘Toy Guru’.

    Here, let me reinforce my belief that its ‘cosmic coincidence’ that you’re into this line solely because of the ‘designs’.

    You’re also contradicting yourself. For example:

    Then you post this…

    You are…blabbering. Here are more examples:

    Last I checked, Mattel only made 1 playset for this line and that was ONLY Castle Grayskull. Unless you consider Mo-larr’s dentist chairs and stands as ‘playsets’.

    Your argument for ‘play features’ is weak because other high end collectibles like Soul of Chogokin and Hot Toys have ‘play features’ too. Some have lights, some transform…so are you saying now they’re now for kids?

    Again, the difference is that the MOTU Classics line is primarily sold online – where adult collectors have access to.

    Why do you think instead of showing a kid on the box of MOTU Classics Castle Grayskull, an adult was shown? It was a ‘joke’ poking fun of us – the adult collectors.

    Just forget it. I just realised that he’s so ‘anti’ against the vintage figures that’s he’s blinded. No way were majority of the figures found at Big Lots were ‘vintage’ characters.

    At the very most, I estimate at the most mid to high 50s% of figures found at Big Lots were ‘vintage figures’ and I’m speaking in terms of ‘character choice’. No way would anyone constitute that percentage as ‘primary’ or ‘majority’.

    Heck, even the so-called ‘vintage’ figures were also a pain to find at Big Lots. Most of the sightings were Adoras, Marzo etc – as widely reported at .org and the Fwoosh.

    Folks even have difficulties in ascertaining if some of the vintage characters sightings like ‘Mosquito’ or “Kobra Khan’ were even genuine. Up till today there’s no ‘photo’ of King Grayskull despite having a ‘SKU’ allocated to him.

    I’ll add in more ‘confirmed’ sightings:

    13. BG Teela
    14. Carnivus
    15. Catrea
    16. Count Marzo
    17. Demo Man
    18. Moss Man
    19. Vykron

    Based on the above list, I won’t even consider vintage characters to ‘primarily’ or ‘majority’ make up the figures found at Big Lot. In boxing terms, it would be a ‘split-decision’.

    I gave up reasoning when he mentioned Shadow Weaver. At this point, he’s just posting whatever it takes to get back at me.

    Like I posted earlier – if a parent or an adult wants to let a kid play with the MOTU figures, more power to him or her but no way is this line geared towards kids.
     
  11. Extendarr

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    Gosh, is that why they say "Adult Collector" on every box? Tricky bastards.

    Excuse me for a sec... my 2 year old is wanting to play with MP Prowl. Better go give it to her, since it's a kid's toy and all.
     
  12. Chrono Grimlock

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    You didn't read my posts so that's cool. I clearly said made a distinction between a toy with die cast metal and costing more the twice the price of a He-Man action figure and typically being required beig imported. And yeah... The box says adult collectible so it must be true it is definety not a marketing tactic.
     
  13. smkspy

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    To your credit, you made an excellent point about DCUC. Yeah, it was marketed as an adult collectible at retail, but it was still a children's toy line. The switch to the online sub model further emphasized adult collectible, but the quality was no different than when the line was at full retail. They were still boy's toys sold through an online source. MOTUC has far more in common with DCUC than any other product out there. Yeah, it's primarily sold online, the price is a little higher, and it is marketed as adult collectibles, but at it's heart, the line is your average boy's toy line same as any other.

    I think you and Liger are taking some your counter points a little too personally. I think if anything, MOTUC for all its issues, shows one basic necessity for a small online brand; resellers. Resellers whether it's the small ebayer buying up 10 Moss Mans during sale day or BBTS buying up 10 subscriptions, they punished the line into the success that it is. When there is profit to made, they buying up everything they could causing people to take notice of the line, want figures that people would otherwise never look twice, and then have people demand Mattel reissue them so they don't have to pay boogeymen prices.

    Mattel being the greedy corporation they are, put no effort or research into which figures should be reissued, and flooded the market with tons of figures that could have otherwise been very popular because of a natural line rarity, and when the bubble burst real figures worthy of reissues will never get them.
     
  14. Extendarr

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    Right. Boy they sure fooled us with that marketing tactic. I'm gonna go let my daughter chew on Sorceress, Teela and Fisto now.
     
  15. smkspy

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    Would you let your daughter "chew" on a karatti, moss man, or BG teela?

    And unless, your daughter is a toddler, I would be concerned about that chewing habit if I were you.
     
  16. Chrono Grimlock

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    And what's the alternative? Sitting on a shelf forever? Paying for your daughters college fund? Yeah, wait 20 years and sell the for millions with all your copies of Amazing Spider-Man 400.

    This is a million percent something I agree with. I remember Moss Man selling out in like 5 minutes and people freaking about it, and they were rightfully so. Moss Man was such a core character another one of the few vintage figures I still have. Then he was resold, but "sold out" and then appeared at Big Lots. I understand Mattel was tired of paying for housing on the figure, and I have no idea if he was ever in a flash sale but I thought it was disrespectful to not allow subsriber first dibs at grabbing multiple or dirt cheap on the website.
     
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    Moss Man was a Black Friday figure before being released to Big Lots. It was how I got mine along with Webstor.
     
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    I forgot all about Mossy. My bad.
     
  19. Extendarr

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    Sorry, I forgot to activate my sarcasm font. And yes, she's a toddler. :)  And no, she's not allowed to chew on any of daddy's toys.

    I'm sure they'll end up in various displays. Hell, they may get sold someday, just like I sold the hundreds of TF CHUG figures that I had amassed. Didn't sell them for a fortune, either. Just sold them for enough to get their replacements. (I'm onto MPs exclusively now in my TF collecting.)

    But then I'm not in it for an investment. Just in it for the toys and something fun to look at and fiddle with. Not too worried about my daughter's college fund, either. And I've never read Amazing Spider-Man 400. (Spawn #1 and Death of Superman taught me my lesson in comics speculation.)

    I understand why they liquidated their stock. They had leftovers and Big Lots had money. Seems pretty simple to me. Prior to the Big Lots sale, I had exactly 3 figures from this line--Orko, Adam and He-Man. I really didn't want to start collecting MOTUC because I knew what a huge backlog of characters had already been released, and I knew they were stupidly expensive. The Big Lots sale gave me a jumping on point. Now, instead of just 3 figures (really, only 2 characters) I had Man-E-Faces, Clawful, Grizzlor, Moss Man, Icarius, Adora, Mo-Larr, a toothless Skeletor, Megator and Snout Spout. Having those, I was ready to dive into collecting the line. (It also helped that a local comic shop sold much of the pre-existing line for $14.99 per figure--including Fisto and Teela.) After catching up with the majority of the figures that I wanted, I considered subbing, but decided against it, but when must-have figures come out, I buy them from those who do, thereby subsidizing their subs.

    I think the people you should be angry with are those who scalped the Big Lots sales and bought up the whole lot for resale. Those kept them out of the hands of collectors. I was lucky enough to be at the grand opening of a Big Lots during all this, and so I was able to get my assortment. Beyond that only two other stores I went to had them (and one still has shelf-warming Adoras.)

    Basically, what I'm saying is that, all fanrage aside, I think the Big Lots sale actually helped grow the fanbase and brought new people into the fold. Collectors bitched, sure. But collectors were going to bitch anyway, and if this weren't the topic, they'd be on to bitching about something else, because that's just what collectors seem to do...bitch, bitch, bitch, but they still keep coming back for more.
     
  20. Chrono Grimlock

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    Which is great, I still buy generations, and maybe the new Dinobots... but I think MPs are the best of the best and no other TF compares to them. Again, with that said I think you can agree there's a massive quality difference between MP Optimus (any versions) and Classics He-Man.

    Me too, it's why I let people play with Shadow Weaver, as well as He-Man or even Castle Grayskull.

    I'm personally not angry with anyone, no one on this board, the .org, the Matty boards, ToyGuru. My comment about disrespect was geared to towards most of the cheap toys that Matty was selling were flash sales, and figures available on Black Friday that had mere minutes to buy and "sold out" or others that were "sold out" entirely but still ended up in Big Lots. I personally believe Mattel has been fabricating the "sell outs" for quite some time so it sucks that pretty much every international customer was locked out of a second or third chance to get Moss Man, Man-E-Faces, or Orko because they were unloaded on an US chain store.

    Very true. I keep hoping we get a 2002 inspired He-Man and I'll keep bitching until we get one!