Does This Bother Anybody About The Characters In The IDW Transformers Comics?

Discussion in 'Transformers Comics Discussion' started by Optimus Convoy, May 8, 2014.

  1. Optimus Convoy

    Optimus Convoy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2003
    Posts:
    359
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +76
    1. Does it bother anybody that Cyclonus and Scourge are not part of the Decepticon army? Cyclonus didn't start out as a Decepticon. He started as a zombie who is way older than Optimus. Basically he's a old school Cybertronian. He didn't even join the 'Cons later in the comics. Unless things change later. Scourge I guess is taking a break from the comics since his fate is unknown. It feels kinda weird cause these 2 are one of the most important characters from the Decepticons.

    2. Fortress Maximus is a small Autobot. He should be a city bot. His name does start with "Fortress". Some people complain that he's too big to be an important character. He won't get enough shine. If that's the case, writers should just have him as a headmaster and have Spike and Cerebros get half of the shine.

    3. Bumblebee and Goldbug are separate characters. Kinda weird that they're different but I guess it's best cause Bee is a better and important character while in early G1, since upgraded into Goldbug, it didn't seem like he was a important character anymore. Like he just downgraded. What do you guys think?
     
  2. Kraken

    Kraken Is a vegiesaurus, Lex. Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2009
    Posts:
    7,220
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    242
    Likes:
    +41
    Not at all.
     
  3. AdyCarter

    AdyCarter Mentalist Conspiracies

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2011
    Posts:
    426
    Trophy Points:
    132
    Likes:
    +46
    Nope. Not in the slightest
     
  4. Chris McFeely

    Chris McFeely Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2004
    Posts:
    5,080
    News Credits:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +2,365
    Twitter:
    YouTube (Legacy):
    The first one, no, not at all. The second even less so, since the Marvel Comics also depicted Fort Max as not being particularly big. The third, though, was and still is fairly silly. I mean, I don't think I'd say I'm BOTHERED about it, but it was a random dumb thing that a dumb writer did that added nothing to the universe in a story that could have functioned perfectly fine without Goldbug being in it.
     
  5. Jalaguy

    Jalaguy has no known physical weaknesses

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Posts:
    4,440
    News Credits:
    44
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Location:
    UK
    Likes:
    +2,876
    Twitter:
    Tumblr:
    Nah, I'm all for interesting new takes on characters.

    And for what it's worth, Fort Max has precedent not being fortress-sized - he started out that way in the Marvel series.
     
  6. FantomLibrarian

    FantomLibrarian Iaconian Data Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Posts:
    300
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Likes:
    +1
    Agreed! The divergence from G1 isn't a problem for me since IDW is a different continuity! Like TF: Animated, I'm not going to complain that Soundwave was made by humans or Waspinator was an Autobot named Wasp or that 'Prime' is a title and Ultra Magnus is the leader of the Autobots - that kind of thinking is faulty. While we may have preferences for character backstory that doesn't mean we shouldn't like something that a lot of people have taken a lot of time, effort, and skill in creating. That's like saying the technorganic Cybertron at the end of Beast Machines ruined G1.
     
  7. GingerSynapse

    GingerSynapse Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2014
    Posts:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Likes:
    +0
    Nope.
     
  8. Rexidus

    Rexidus Autobot

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Posts:
    14,390
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Likes:
    +318
    100% no bucks were given. I LOVE this Cyclonus and am inceasingly tempted to remove his Con symbol from his figure. Fort Max is cool as is. And I never cared about Goldbug and still don't.
     
  9. Mechafire

    Mechafire Shadow Broker Moderator News Staff

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Posts:
    26,261
    News Credits:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    452
    Likes:
    +2,417
    No, it doesn't bother me that IDW isn't "G1 Cartoon: The Comic".
     
  10. edgs2099

    edgs2099 Optimistically realistic. Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2010
    Posts:
    14,559
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    342
    Location:
    Fanghorn
    Likes:
    +11,730
    Not at all. Not even a teeny tiny bit.
     
  11. Gridlock1987

    Gridlock1987 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2009
    Posts:
    398
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +487
    Out of curiosity... Why Bumblebee not being the same character as Goldbug is bothersome to you, but Megatron not being Galvatron isin't?
     
  12. TF14

    TF14 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2011
    Posts:
    1,059
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +395
    Nope I love Not-a-Decepticon Cyclonus
     
  13. Shortwave

    Shortwave Autobot fembot

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2013
    Posts:
    4,718
    Trophy Points:
    212
    Likes:
    +32
    Dont mind Goldbug as a second character.
     
  14. grindcore138

    grindcore138 ARF ARF!!!

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2012
    Posts:
    5,305
    News Credits:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Location:
    Clown Island
    Likes:
    +11,266
    Na m8.
    Cyclonus has been brilliant like this.
    Fortress Maximus being a hench, regular sized 'bot is nothing new anyway.
    The Goldbug being a separate character from Bumblebee thing is a non-issue.
     
  15. Omnius

    Omnius Guest

    Joined:
    May 14, 2006
    Posts:
    12,031
    News Credits:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +334
    No x 3.

    I'm enjoying the surprises and new interpretations the current comics are throwing at us far more than I would a re-hash of ye olde 80s stories.
     
  16. WoundSave

    WoundSave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2012
    Posts:
    1,633
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    137
    Likes:
    +28
    MTMTE has made Cyclonus into one of my favorite characters of all time, and I've already removed his Decepticon rubsign from his chest, and stole drifts sword too.

    I like IDW s fort Mac enough to cough up $150 for Warden (and I don't own the g1 version, so it's not like I'm transforming him into a head.

    IDW is the most thought out, excellent continuity that has ever existed if you ask me, there is NO reason to slavishly follow g1's lead just cause it's g1.
     
  17. Anguirus

    Anguirus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2009
    Posts:
    11,270
    News Credits:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +583
    Ebay:
    The IDW comic and the G1 cartoon are only about as different from each other as the G1 comic and the G1 cartoon.

    The major difference is that while the G1s were "based on" the G1 series of toys, IDW is more like "inspired by" the G1 series of toys.

    That means that characters can have different gimmicks (Prowl a combiner, Sunstreaker a Headmaster, Fortress NOT a Headmaster or a baseformer), that some characters have different affiliations (Galvatron only recently became a Decepticon, Cyclonus is a de facto Autobot), and that some characters are visiting from different toylines (Waspinator, Fat Tankor). Basically, it opens up the storytelling to be more writer-driven, less merch-driven (though that is still a factor).

    Anyway, Cyclonus and Scourge's status is a reference to their Unicronian nature in the source material anyway. And Scourge hasn't shown up lately because he might or might not be dead; Cyclonus thinks he's alive, but a talking Sweep that might have been him had his brains blown out by Wheelie during Chaos.
     
  18. s10blazed

    s10blazed Duly appointed...

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2010
    Posts:
    1,138
    Trophy Points:
    182
    Location:
    Near Pittsburgh, PA
    Likes:
    +14
    Ebay:
    Facebook:
    Twitter:
    Instagram:
    Flickr:
    YouTube (Legacy):
    Tumblr:
    Pinterest:
    Not bothered by any of those at all.

    Actually, for Fortress Maximus I like him better as a regular sized bot. In this case I don't see "Fortress" pertaining to his size, but rather his job description. As a warden on Garrus 9 he runs it like a fortress. Maximus-ly.

    Although, there could be an argument that if he was city-sized that he could BE THE FORTRESS that contains the prisoners. But that isn't as fun to me.
     
  19. Murasame

    Murasame 村雨

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Posts:
    25,481
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Location:
    The Lost Light
    Likes:
    +13,649
    Nope.

    And even in G1 (at least Sunbow cartoon) Bumblebee and Goldbug were seen in the same shot.
     
  20. revlimiter

    revlimiter Bot Hacker

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2006
    Posts:
    1,098
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    177
    Likes:
    +20
    +1 (or is it -1?)

    All of the OP's points make the comic MORE interesting to me. Love not-Con Cyclonus.