MP-21 Masterpiece Bumblebee

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by General Tekno, Feb 28, 2014.

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  1. Stepper

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    If that is true,that is really great news.
     
  2. AutobotBlu

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    Can you provide some sort of proof to back up your claim? I'm not arguing with you, Devy is my favorite combiner and I had always hoped for an MP combiner.
     
  3. Stepper

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    Hopefully Hasbro will not neglect us & will give a US release of MP Bumblebee.
     
  4. harveydent

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    Maybe by 2022
     
  5. T-Logicon

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    Looks good and all, but I'm not impressed with the "mp" pricing scale for a deluxe. I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around another deluxe bee for how much? $50 - maybe more? No thanks. The mp cars look good - especially the 240z mold, but even those at $60 / $70 is too much - for me. I had no problem dropping 75 for grimlock amd skywarp, but I won't ever spend as much as bee is going to cost for a deluxe. I just can't do it. I haven't seen anything from the mp cars that completely blows the alt/bt line out of the water, in terms of engineering, attn to detail, and effort - yet they cost exponentially more due to the nostalgia factor. Easy pass for me, I gotta respect myself in the morning.
     
  6. Anguirus

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    People are being really surprisingly rude to others who dared to entertain the possibility or, god forbid, a preference for a slightly larger Bumblebee. I would have liked him to be a little bigger too, scale chart be damned.

    Would you have been this rude to someone arguing for Wheeljack's toy colors, when the grey proto came out? That doesn't fit these MP "rules" either, but we got it anyway. Will your world come tumbling down when (yes when) the MP combiners don't fit the scale chart for engineering reasons? Which of you were saying that the guy in the exo-suit had to be Daniel cause the MP line don't repeat no characters?

    There are no hard and fast rules in toy design. There's no call for being rude because someone doesn't know or care about the chart. Until now the size for BB was pretty up in the air anyway, you don't need to jump down his throat as if he was asking about Sunstreaker being a retool of Sideswipe for the umpteenth time. (Though even THAT reaction is overblown, and also is ironically NOT happening for the VERY common theory that Cliffjumper will be a retool of Bumblebee...which was also not the case in G1.)
     
  7. Transformed

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    I think the only thing that really links Cliffjumper to a Porsche is that indentation on his hood.

    If not for wiki I never would have known he was supposed to be a Porsche:lol 

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    I know G1 is battling against itself when it comes to scale, but all of the budget Transformers were way too small. I can't wait to see how they pull of Powerglide, Seaspray and Warpath--three guys I'd gladly pass on.

    Still think Takara could have fudged the size of Bumblebee a bit to make him look more to scale in car mode (and maybe they did):confused2 
     
  8. Yeled

    Yeled Grimlock is King

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    For starters, that's not the right Porsche. Yes, Cliffy is very decidedly chibi and it's hard at first glance to see the similarities, but if you look at the original g1 toy or its art, you'll see definite references back to the actual Porsche. But in each iteration from car to toy to cartoon some more of the original car gets lost.

    Not saying Cliffy looks a hell of a lot like a Porsche, but he was certainly one designers chibified interpretation of one.
     
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    we all know (or should know) that the whole scale thing was a blatant move to pull two toy lines into what would eventually become this insane hobby we now and love. they didn't attempt to put together a cohesive set of characters and then a subsequent toyline, they basically had a bunch of toys and created 22 minutes commercials to match because that was, at the time, the better decision than just creating all new toys that scaled properly.

    little did they know that they would be creating the basis for a religious movement known as TF scale... Christians have the Bible, Jews the Talmud, Muslims the Koran and TF fans... we have the Official Scale Chart and the Book of Geewun. Luckily I'm not that devout and can enjoy great toys without declaring a Holy War on those who believe more/less strongly than I do.
     
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    Thanks for saying this. Catching up to all new posts I was really shocked by the attacks against people who aren't the happiest. I hate the shut up and like what you are given attitude. I don't think anyone was whinning, just stating their feelings. Anywho.......

    Even at AE prices I still feel ripped off. Shoe horning exo suit spike to keep their damn price point is crappy. I thought takara has a more flexible pricing structure than hasbro? Exo spike isn't a semi necessary accessory like soundwave's cassettes or optimus' trailer.

    As much as I love the cassettes, I am glad I got hasbro versions because I felt the tt versions were way overpriced for what they were. Maybe it's r&d costs that drive up the price of the small figures. I don't know, but I see better value in the bigger figures.
     
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    Why risk it? Just get the Takara version now if you really like the figure
     
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    Kobayashi's team? That'd be great if he gives us Devastator and when Hasui returns he gives us Bruticus.
     
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    I already am getting it for less than that with shipping. I don't need to wait for Hasbro.
     
  14. shogun221

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    To each his own, but man...having owned six of the B/T molds and all of the MP cars, I just can't see where you're coming from with this. B/T produced some great 1/24 scale cars, but EVERYTHING else was compromised in service to that alt mode. That line was chock-full of unattractive proportions, middling poseability and un-fun transformations. For every decent mold Takara made (Meister), there was something completely daft (Optimus Prime). I still laugh at B/T Wheeljack/Grimlock's baby-soft feet made of carseat cushions.

    I disagree with the oft-stated idea that B/T were a better value because they were larger, and had rubber/die-cast. Plastic, rubber and die-cast are all cheap stuff. If you want to make an argument of value based on type/quantity of materials used, pretty much every toy is a ripoff. What makes a figure worth money to me is how fun it is, how well designed it is and, in the case of the MP line, how much it scratches that nostalgic itch. Full truth? I'd rather pay $75 for a toy I love and play with all the time, than $50 for something larger, made of out die-cast, that just sits on a shelf because I could care less about messing around with it.
     
  15. Prime135

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    It's really bugging me all the people getting up in arms over the size. To me this line has always been for the people who grew up with the cartoon, and even though I grew up with later series it always drove me crazy that my toys were out of scale with each other in bot mode and I think this is something takara is trying to fix. Based on that I think they're doing a great job.

    And as for all of the talk about mp combiners, six constructicons a head or so shorter than the seekers would make up a sizeable devastator with no more stability problems than some of the smaller city/planetformers.
     
  16. T-Logicon

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    Like you said, to each his own.
    One if the great things about tfs and the huge multiverse of figures is sheer amount of options available. 50 shades of grey, 100% awesome.
     
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    ZapRowsdower Selling oddities in a shack. In the woods.

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    Thank you!!! :rock  I think you and I are the only two on this entire site who would dare to say that these MPs are overpriced.
    Thanks for the advice... but you do realize HLJ has HORRIBLE shipping prices, right? You may be paying less for the toy, but you're paying that $75 difference in their overly paranoid, next 3 days, signed package delivery. Unless that other site is more economical (or you live in Asia somewhere), $75 is probably the cheapest he will be.
    Selling off Spike to make up the difference? Listen, not to knock your idea down, but I don't buy TFs with the intention of negotiating financial investment returns or trade schemes. I just want to buy TFs at a more affordable price and not worry about finding a buyer (or dealing with eBay).

    Good suggestions, though, so thank you! :D 
     
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    Wow,if that is the case,good deal.
     
  19. Silvershot

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    Well Cliffy isn't based on a specific Porsche - he has some elements of the Porsche 924 Turbo (shown above) and other elements of the Porsche 924 Carrera GTS. He's basically an amalgamation of the 2. And then chibified of course.

    How should they handle him in the MP line? Who cares, as long as he comes with that big ass gun from MTMTE.
     
  20. Afterburner

    Afterburner For your health

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    His size is optimal. That is to say perfect in robot mode. Alt mode we'll just have to pretend he's a smaller car, just like we pretend jets aren't really that big. Pretend...yes, that's it....

    Preparing for extermination...
     
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