I want to point out that although the figure comes with his sword and shield his arms are inaccurate; based on the design before acquiring them rather than after.

 

The horrible robot mode design that has almost no truck parts. I never understood why this design was approved, it goes against the whole principle of transformers.

 

This is just not a good design for Optimus in general.

 

i wish i liked this design. the figure looks great.

 

I have to agree with you 100% about it going against what transformers is quite a bit with almost no truck parts on him, just like the decepticons in AOE turning into bits and reforming pooped on what transformers is supposed to be too, but I still think its a real cool robot design.

Bay just took a dump on Transformers real bad and that's all there is to it.
People will say he rejuvenated the franchise and made it such a huge thing, but the fact is people wanted a live action transformers movie so bad, and it was always such a potentially great thing to see in live action that I think almost any decent director could have done it and it been just as successful, if not more.
If Bay hadn't dismissed the source material so much and was a good director that could tell and show a coherent story well I think the TF movies could have been closer to what the Captain America movies are now and not a flashy critically hated joke with a fan base.

 

THIS!!! It always warms my heart to see another true fan on the right side of history!  
I too, kind of like the design, but it's not Optimus, nor is it worth $400 IMO. If it transformed, I'd buy it just for the "amaze" factor of a truck completely hiding itself in a suit of armor  

 

YES! This is exactly what I'm thinking. It's a cool robot design, the same way Gundam is cool. I was exactly thinking about the turning into bits thing. Let's take the transformation to the extreme, and just have everything break down and reconstitute into another shape. I just hated that, it made all the other transformations pointless. If that's what "Transformium" can do, why even bother with shifting parts?

Can you imagine the day HasTak designers received this new design and shook their heads. And then proceeded to churn out shellformers.

 

I can't say I agree with this post much with the exception of the Knight vibe Optimus gives which I too think it's awesome.. Despite how cheaty Optimus design and transformation was he still transformed normally and not into bits. Yeah Transformium wasn't anything like a traditional transformation but that was honestly the point since it was man made. honeslty I feel Beast Machines did the whole transformation and design bit worse in comparison since it felt more like morphing.

Regarding the source material bit too I honestly don't see how the movies are that far removed from the source. It's still a story about two warring factions one good and one evil and the characters and themes still retain their original elements. Also it's not like the TF series that came before the movies and even after did their own share of drastic changes in their own right.

What exactly is a "true fan" in your book and also who made you judge over what a real TF fan should be?

 

I like this design I just wish it had maybe a few more visible car parts.

The only thing I've read is that they were looking at the IDW designs when they were in the designing phase. The more streamlined humanoid shapes.

When you look at it objectively it does vibe with the current IDW Optimus design. The panels folding over the shoulders is very similar. The basic shapes are there.

This just has more of a Knight theme with rounded features and shapes versus the square angular boxy ones. I'll be curious if they don't mix up the design again or reuse the same model.

But this figure has some inaccurate changes. I'd stick to the DMK model though.

 

The thing I got from the Transformium is that the scientists could program the material to assume a pre rendered design(like Optimus who they were trying to copy, probably from scans/pictures) but they couldn't figure out how the Transformers actually shift their parts around. That's why the matter dispersal changes/transformations.

Hence the scene that states it was "programmable matter".

I think they could easily explain it away in a sequel that the newly reborn Decepticons' Cybertronian physiology reasserted itself over time and they transform normally again.

There is a substance called memory metal or smart metal that is a similar very real thing being developed right now.

 

Don't really like this Optimus, and got the 3A version coming, but I will pick up their Bumblebee, over the 3A version. I hope Bumblebee drops this year and no this dude is not worth 400, he should have been like 250 USD,

 

Can you tell me where those blue plates go on the vehicle though? IMO they cheated too much with this design. When I can't draw the link between robot and alt mode that's when I feel the line is crossed. The joy of Transformers to me is seeing how alt mode parts move and reconfigure into parts of a robot, humanoid or otherwise. AOE Prime is devoid of that, so much so that they didn't know how to make a decent toy either.

Transformium was described as what the Transformers are made of. It didn't make sense to me that Transformium could at its most basic level do that, and yet the Transformers themselves are a step backward.

 

Could be that the way the KSI bots transformed was because the Transformium was triggered differently by humans which would explain why the regular TFs couldn't do that because they were wired to transform differently one way. That's how I view it.

 

Yeah I get that, but wouldn't that mean humans are able to trigger it in a more advanced way than the super ancient alien race? That's just how I see it, to me breaking into fragments and flying around then reconstituting is way more advanced, flexible and powerful than physically moving parts. Haha, that Transformium thing was just way too much for me.

 

I think it would more by accident on the humans part. For all we know that power could've been lost tech that was refound by another race.

 

I like it when they push the boundaries when trying new character designs. Merely sticking to the old will get... Old. But I wasn't too fond of Grimlock's new design

 

Very cool.

 

Uuuuugggggghhhhhhh....

 

Like I said, the Bay movies have their own die-hard fan base despite how much the critics hate them, and those fans will defend it like any fans defend what they love, often only hearing what they want to hear. People can also make themselves make sense of just about anything no matter how wacky it is if they want to badly enough.

I'm just saying since the movies started off using G1 character names and the original Optimus voice among a few other G1 elements, a lot of other directors could have done these movies and stayed even more true to those original characters and it could have been just as successful, if not more. Notice that in every show after the movies started they have incorporated things from the movies while also usually trying to get the characters somewhat back to the more recognizable classic versions. No flames on Optimus. White and red ambulance Ratchet. Giving Bumblebee back his damned voice. Plenty of other examples...

I like the Bay movies overall too. Most of them have been fun to watch but I think they could have been as good or better if done by a director who didn't insist on changing so much because he though it was all so stupid or just carelessly decided he had a better idea for what color characters should be or how they should sound or what they should turn into. Of course a lot has to be updated for the big screen and live action but Bay took a lot too far IMO. It could have been just as good if Optimus didn't have flashy hot rod flames and if Ironhide had been a red neck that turned into a van.
We are talking about a director who outright said he never liked Transformers before he made his movies, said he would never include the Dinobots because he hated them, and says every movie is the last one he will do only to return each time. Money money flash BOOM BAY WHOOOO!!!

Yeah, Beast Machines was like the Michael Bay version of Beast Wars.