Transformers Prime Deluxe Ratchet's Alternate Head is Swerve?

Uh, I don't think those are the same head design. The Ratchet one kind of looks like Roadbuster to me.

I was thinking the same thing initially. But looking at it more and the lines, it does actually look like it. Need better pics of Swerve.

I was sceptical too, but the lines and the forehead definitely seem similar. Better pics of both would swing it but I thought it was worth mentioning as a rumour, especially given the implications.

Eyes are too small.

Added a couple of pics in my post. Thanks for the rumor credit Sol Fury.

could be the formally asia-exclusive generations swerve head as well.

I could see this being the case. Though I'd rather see Ratchet's mold used for something else

What is this about the Breakdown mold not being workable in the US market?

Aaron Archer said that the Breakdown mold:

A. Would cost more than the $19-$22 a voyager usually costs if released

B. It would cost too much money in order to remove the Minicon ports from its Arms Micron release

Wow great job hasbro you fncked up again.

No, Tomy went out on their own and made a great toy outside of the normal budget. Hasbro may yet still do their own version.

Hmmmm, very interesting.


As a side note I can't see how Breakdown can be considered more costly to make over every other Voyager in the line but whatever.

those head are different, similar in a way, but are different

cause Tomy voyagers are like twice the price on the shelf to start off with. The same voyagers in the states costing at most $22 there cost $30 in Canada (bear in mind our currency has been close to parity for several years now, so its nothing to do with currency value)

Im pretty sure US collectors pay the least for TFs when compared to any other country in the world. (i recently read someone complaining about paying $55 shipped for a FE Megs vs OP entertainment pack - they cost $54 CAD after taxes at regular retail price at TRU)

As for the breakdown mold it cost money to retool it for a Us release, the have to remove the micron ports, recast the mold (not cheap), make a mechtech weapon and offhand weapon, maybe do some paint apps in the place of stickers.

It is also a brilliant mold, on par with FE OP or Bulkhead, and leagues beyond the RID voyagers that have been released so far. Tomy is also getting their mileage out of it with 3 versions of the same mold already planned.

that's all fine and dandy

why is hasbro show it off at an asian convention then, they were the first to show off we were getting a breakdown voyager.

if they had no intention of releasing him why did they show him off!

Wow, not to doubt your credibility, I'm surprised this information hadn't reached me sooner, though SDCC kind of created a news avalanche. For the second point, I - and probably several others - would simply say 'leave the ports on!'. They wouldn't cover as much of his surface area as that of a Deluxe for one thing, even if suggesting that any Voyager Breakdown Hasbro released would be more accurate than none at all dsregards their creative/investment process, it's still amusing, haha.

Well, at least that's what I recall hearing about the situation. And yeah, they could just leave them on. They would have to mold him a new weapon though nonetheless

Yes,one is deluxe size the other voyager....

If you look at the deluxe one closely (as closely as possible anyway!), you can see it is the same head.

The head sort of crest on the voyager version is there, its just the detailing shows up a bit better on the deluxe head because its unpainted.

But if you look at the eyes on the deluxe head, they look different....only until you look around them and you can see the larger sections which have been painted blue on the voyager.

Its definitely the same head.

Er.. no.

This is also a little amusing because someone on the recent AM Swerve picture thread said they'd repurpose him as First Aid, now we see a similar head on an Ambulance altmode.

That immediately raises two points though:

1. The headsculpt's resemblence to AM Swerve's is debatable - quite literally - as we see in this thread.

2. My remark is a moot point, particularly if I go with the admittedly unfounded possibility that Hasbro has decided not to follow through with this Deluxe retool and Takara ran with it for Swerve. Perhaps if the Deluxe was to be Swerve the deco was considered too close to Ratchet's. Maybe it wasn't Swerve. Perhaps it was and still will be, as far as it being something that gets released.

Mother of God.



I'd buy that. It is the year of the Swerve.

If it were Swerve... then Wheeljack hit the nail on the head with his custom kit... LOL

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radico...werve-wip.html

Hard to say for sure from the fuzzy photos, but to me it looks like one is probably based on the other, (presumably the Ratchet alt head was first) but they are not completely identical sculpts at different scales.

Now I wonder when/if Hasbro releases the other-head Ratchet toy, what name it will be given.

It was Takara that showed it, not Hasbro. That's where MP Sideswipe was first seen too.

RID ratchet would be the best mold IMO so far. THe Kup generations retool doesnt really look like Swerve, the voyager breakdown is a great mold but kind of fucking HUGE for swerve... If Ratchet becomes a swerve mold it would be bought for me.

It's Prime Swerve, not G1 Swerve, so size isn't really an issue.

Maybe Swerve should get in The Hall of Fame,Next Year.

the head mold on the Ratchet instructions looks more like Deadend to me, but then it could just be my eyesight failing me.

there isnt really such a thing as Prime swerve as far as i see it. Not a character in the show, nor the comics. He's not really a huge player in g1, and the most characterization he's gotten (that i've seen) is in the comics. Just because a redeco of him is being released as a japanese exclusive doesnt really warrant a voyager sized minicon (though, in fairness, how would he look alongside MP-10, i wonder? acceptable minicon size perhaps? i dont own any MP figs so...) Same problem i have with FE BUlkhead mold Brawn- cool- its brawn, but he's HUGE for a guy that is either a minicon in g1 or a squat 'scout-sized' angry in IDW comics.

For me, all swerves are IDW swerve, and i personally wouldnt pay 65 bucks to ship a japanese voyager overseas where it will look completely out of place on my very small RID/MTMTE collection (which are currently all deluxes).

Whatever, they're both terrible heads for Swerve imo.

must be Roadbuster, yay!

So I popped the head off of my AM Swerve to see if it would fit on Ratchet and its a no go. Swerve's head is too wide. So unless it was modified some how they should be different heads.

How could you pull that off? My Breakdown's head snapped clean off by accident: the ball joint is just too tight.

Imo. I think they are the same. One wearing a battle mask and one without.

Ratchet might work as Decepticon Payload (from the Movie card game) I like to see some faction swapping going on - or even Cannonball.

Canonball can work. but he needs a pirate hook attachment.

That would be cool.

Hell just have two new weapons in place of the scalpels and it'll work.

I finally got Ratchet today...He's neat. I want his retool.

A pirate like sword would be cool.

And he'd have to have the star seekers insignia.

Yes.

also he needs a paint blotch for a eye patch and the skeletons on the doors.