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Transformers Aligned Continuity Jazz Concept Design

Posted on 12-12-2012 at 02:31 PM by Secretcode under Transformers Prime
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It's concept art time! Following up on the Sideswipe design he posted on his own blog, Emiliano Santalucia has uploaded three new concept art images of the Aligned continuity Jazz design. As with the Sideswipe artwork from last time, this piece of work is for a concept he did when working with Hasbro to develop a Transformers production and character bible for Hasbro, more than likely the master document detailing Hasbro's Aligned Continuity project which comprises Transformers Prime, the Transformers War for Cybertron video games, and the Exodus novels series.

Check out the images and the brief write up by clicking this link right here.
Views: 9,882 / Credit: General Tekno of the 2005 Boards!
Sideswipe80
This alone would have made Prime so much better. Instead we got Arcee and Bulkhead.
bellpeppers
Would have been freaking awesome.
HeroicC300
Jazz and Sideswipe, plus Ironhide show a lot of flavor.

Anyone want to see something like art for an Aligned continuity Railspike or other "Outsider" I.E., non G1 character?
Bountyan
I don't like his proportions. He looks like a dwarf because of his head size in relation to the rest of his body.
Scorpio
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Originally Posted by Bountyan View Post
I don't like his proportions. He looks like a dwarf because of his head size in relation to the rest of his body.
Agreed
Spin-Out
I dig this.

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Originally Posted by Bountyan View Post
I don't like his proportions. He looks like a dwarf because of his head size in relation to the rest of his body.
Not... Really. In fact, he has a nice, almost TFA-ish look.
bignick1693
Looks like g1 2.0
Shark Jumper
I like his upper body but hate his bottom half, it's too movie-ish.

"No I want two..." q-q
Ceric Neesh
I really like how it's got elements of both Movie-verse Jazz (look at the shoulders and the legs) and FoC Jazz (The forearms, headlights, and chest in general). I'd have loved to see this onscreen.
Heat Guy
Oh man, that is gorgeous. Perfect mix of G1 and Movie.
Dinodigger97
That's just beautiful. Now, Hasbro....make a toy out of this.
cosmos3
I never view Prime and the video game series as the same universe/dimension. Why anyone would is beyond me. The only thing I see it as is some way for Hasbro to market it as such.
ErbFan28
Not bad...fits in with the Prime aesthetic (even has a little Animated in it)
Bountyan
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Originally Posted by Spin-Out View Post
Not... Really. In fact, he has a nice, almost TFA-ish look.
Yes really. His upper body and head look huge compared to his short and stumpy legs. I don't like it.

I don't see TFA in it either. Not really sure how you guys are coming to that conclusion, but ok.
GeekVariety
The vehicle mode looks just like what Smokescreen looks like on the show or damn close anyhow.

I wonder if they went with the Knockout repaint for the Smokescreen toy to save his show style mode for Jazz potentially?
SPLIT LIP
Don't get me rong, it's cool, but there's really nothing to it. It's slightly more G1 Movie Jazz, really. Nothing exciting or unique about him. No motif, no personality, no purpose. Just movie Jazz made more G1 with awkward-er proportions and a giant shoulder cannon.
Digilaut
It's pretty damn cool, but it also convinces me that a hybrid of G1 and Movie is not the way to go.

I think the Ironhide one worked better in that sense, but still..doesn't really work for me.
shroobmaster
>Door wings

Dropped go home.
Paxtin
That's quite a shoulder connon you got there Jazz.

I like it. He's got a lot of personality.
Necro Prime
OH my freaking PRIMUS! Toy now!Toy now!Toy now! Jazz, is one of my absolute 3 favorite characters, and i feel that this is a beautiful blend of all previous renderings of the character. As far as people saying that he has funny legs, G1 Jazz had those "bell-bottom" style legs from the begining.


Ravenxl7
I like it...I guess. I wonder how this would translate into a Prime Jazz, or into a toy based just on these images. The door wings don't bother me, and the rather large shoulder missile is a nice touch, but there's something to the overall style that seems...overly exaggerated...

This and Sideswipe make me rather curious to see what some of the aligned designs for certain other characters look like. Most especially Starscream and Cliffjumper.
nemesisconvoy
Now why couldn't we have gotten this?
Stardust262
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Originally Posted by HeroicC300 View Post
Anyone want to see something like art for an Aligned continuity Railspike or other "Outsider" I.E., non G1 character?
Yes, so much yes.


Jazz looks alright. Over exaggerated would be a good way to define it.
Arashistorm
I was JUST looking at my FOC Jazz and thinking his vehicle mode looked a bit like Smokescreen's in PRIME...this picture pushes that a bit more. I like it, but he does seem a bit stumpy..and the shoulder cannon is a bit much. Id be all for a non-show Jazz figure
RedAlert Rescue
I'd have liked to see Jazz in Prime as he's supposed to be one Of Optimus closest friends in that Universe. It might make Prime grow a personality if he had an old friend to talk to.

His legs look like Movie Jazz's legs/feet to my eyes.
RoadRage
Like the body not A HUGE FAN of of the shoulder gun though other than that a great job !!!!
Emiliano
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Originally Posted by Bountyan View Post
I don't see TFA in it either. Not really sure how you guys are coming to that conclusion, but ok.
Because that's exactly what we were aiming for when doing these illustrations
We wanted to mix all styles, including TFA exagerated proportions and facila features. If you read the post on my blog, I explained it there
Digilaut
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His legs look like Movie Jazz's legs/feet to my eyes.
That's because they're heavily influenced by them.
Alot of the parts match with Movie Jazz, pretty much most of the upper legs, as well as the /\ shapes on his shins.
Stygian360
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Originally Posted by Bountyan View Post
I don't like his proportions. He looks like a dwarf because of his head size in relation to the rest of his body.
Gotta agree with the dwarf observation, although it may be that he simply appears 'scrunched' due to the file/presentation format rather than the intentions of the artist. Maybe...

Otherwise I'm not entirely sure this design says Jazz. Something about the face seems more Prowl-esque, as Prowl in the aligned continuity is very aloof and almost smug.
Ra88
Don't like it. Bad mix of G1 and movie styles without actually doing anything special with it. The proportions are a mess too. It lacks it's own identity. Nowhere near as nice a design as Ironhide, or even Sideswipe.

Look at Prowl or Barricade from the MMO: That's how you mix G1 and movie looks and make it feel like a Prime design while also injecting it with it's own personality.

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Originally Posted by Spin-Out View Post
I dig this.



Not... Really. In fact, he has a nice, almost TFA-ish look.
If only. TFA was sleek, slim, and looked like a breakdancer. This is way more of a bruiser. Not even movie Jazz looked this stocky.
Alooulla
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Originally Posted by Sideswipe80 View Post
This alone would have made Prime so much better. Instead we got Arcee and Bulkhead.
I can appreciate what you're saying, it does look cool. But i like Bulkhead, and i love Arcee, so...i dunno, your comment was a little unfair. They have lots of fans. Why not wish to have it as well as? Everything always seems to be 'instead of' these days.
Gearshift
Wait just a bloody minute. The site says there'll be more of these released...

IN THIS POP-UP BOOK.

So that's where those designs come from- straight from the Binder of Revalation!

Oh, if only that entire book were to be released to the public. I'd buy it in a heartbeat just to see all that exclusive art.
SPLIT LIP
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If only. TFA was sleek, slim, and looked like a breakdancer. This is way more of a bruiser. Not even movie Jazz looked this stocky.
Animated Jazz was the deffinition of sleek. He was tall, lean, had a long and angular face. Dude looked like exactly what he was. A stylish, agile ninja-bot with bulk where it belonged. This is, well, it kind of reminds me of Skids and Mudflap's older, more sophisticated brother.
artiepants
ugh, they took "aligned" a little too literally: mish-mash of aesthetics that don't mesh at all (movie jazz arms and legs + Animated head and chest + G1 'wings' and rocket = )
Ra88
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Originally Posted by Gearshift View Post
Wait just a bloody minute. The site says there'll be more of these released...

IN THIS POP-UP BOOK.

So that's where those designs come from- straight from the Binder of Revalation!

Oh, if only that entire book were to be released to the public. I'd buy it in a heartbeat just to see all that exclusive art.
Huh. That does make a lot of sense.

Also: Eggggh, that Bumblebee design is horrid. Give me PrimeBee over that any day of the week.
Shatterpoint
Would've rather had him than Shitscreen.
Bountyan
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Originally Posted by Gearshift View Post
Wait just a bloody minute. The site says there'll be more of these released...

IN THIS POP-UP BOOK.

So that's where those designs come from- straight from the Binder of Revalation!

Oh, if only that entire book were to be released to the public. I'd buy it in a heartbeat just to see all that exclusive art.
That Bumblebee design makes me cringe.
Maverick Hunter Christian
With how greeble-ey the arms and legs are, its odd that the chest is just a solid piece of car front-end.
GeekVariety
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Originally Posted by Emiliano View Post
Because that's exactly what we were aiming for when doing these illustrations
We wanted to mix all styles, including TFA exagerated proportions and facila features. If you read the post on my blog, I explained it there
You gotta understand most people just look at the picture and pass judgement, they don't bother reading anything to find out the "why" of the situation.

I think you did a fine job on Jazz, I would just hope if this ever became a toy that the shoulder weapon would fold down behind him, but otherwise I think this is a knockout.
tom servo
See. This is who we should've gotten instead of Smokescreen.
baggzey23
His chest is too simple, it needs to separate a bit and look different (like foc jazz and his panel lines)
Emiliano
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Originally Posted by Gearshift View Post
Wait just a bloody minute. The site says there'll be more of these released...

IN THIS POP-UP BOOK.
Well, what I meant is that some of the designs in the pop-up book are based on my designs for that brand bible you mentioned. But not all of them. For many characters in the book, we used many different sources, which were also by different designers developed at different times and for different purposes. And for some, I just had to come up with new designs just while doing the pages for the the book

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Originally Posted by artiepants View Post
ugh, they took "aligned" a little too literally: mish-mash of aesthetics that don't mesh at all (movie jazz arms and legs + Animated head and chest + G1 'wings' and rocket = )
I'm sorry you don't like it, I know fans can have very different tastes. I'm kinda flattered though that everybody can see all those different elements. It tells me that I did a good job as mixing those was what I was asked

BTW, the title "aligned" didn't even exist when we did those
We wanted to try to mix those styles, see what happened and what could be the result at combining them. It's concept exploration, it's done exaclty for that purpose.
kaijuguy19
It's an interesting look. However it's not really streamlined enough in my opinion. And in a way it looks like a silver version of the RTS Jazz. It's not bad though I just don't see this as a TFP design. Then again Ironhide had some things aren't really Prime esuq as well.

As for the binder of revelations it is very interesting. I can see those designs working for a likely third game in the High Moon studios series where the cast lands on Earth and begin to look like how they appear in Prime. It's a good way to bridge to two mediums together. Optimus and Bumblebee are a good example.

Just a question for Emiliano. Have you done a Binder of Revelation concept of Arcee and if so does she look like her Prime self or at least have aspects from her Prime version?
Autovolt 127
This guy is Jazz-tastic!
Digilaut
Hey Emiliano! Thanks for taking the time to comment on your works here!
Can you tell how many characters you have done in this specific style? Were it just a couple of tests or were you assigned to explore the idea with many different characters?

I understand if you are not allowed to answer that, but I'm curious.
bellpeppers
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Originally Posted by Emiliano View Post
I'm sorry you don't like it, I know fans can have very different tastes. I'm kinda flattered though that everybody can see all those different elements. It tells me that I did a good job as mixing those was what I was asked
Well, I personally liked it. A new, fresh take on G1 Jazz that also maintains recognizability (if that's even a word).

I personally would like a toy of your Sideswipe design.

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Originally Posted by Digilaut View Post
Hey Emiliano! Thanks for taking the time to comment on your works here!
Can you tell how many characters you have done in this specific style? Were it just a couple of tests or were you assigned to explore the idea with many different characters?

I understand if you are not allowed to answer that, but I'm curious.
Seconded.
SPLIT LIP
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Originally Posted by Emiliano View Post
Well, what I meant is that some of the designs in the pop-up book are based on my designs for that brand bible you mentioned. But not all of them. For many characters in the book, we used many different sources, which were also by different designers developed at different times and for different purposes. And for some, I just had to come up with new designs just while doing the pages for the the book


I'm sorry you don't like it, I know fans can have very different tastes. I'm kinda flattered though that everybody can see all those different elements. It tells me that I did a good job as mixing those was what I was asked

BTW, the title "aligned" didn't even exist when we did those
We wanted to try to mix those styles, see what happened and what could be the result at combining them. It's concept exploration, it's done exaclty for that purpose.
Sorry people don't like your stuff. Like I said, it's cool and it is well-drawn, but a lot of people are probably just tired of how roundabout everything is today. Everything is an homage or reference of a fusion or a mix to the same old stuff, with very little, if any genuinely new elements. It's not even like old, lesser known characters or versions are being revisited. Just the well-know and trod upon.

Innovation seems to have gone the way of the dodo and people are in mourning, don't take it personal though, it's not like you're the one in charge of this idea. Everyone's doing it these days.
kaijuguy19
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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP View Post
Sorry people don't like your stuff. Like I said, it's cool and it is well-drawn, but a lot of people are probably just tired of how roundabout everything is today. Everything is an homage or reference of a fusion or a mix to the same old stuff, with very little, if any genuinely new elements. It's not even like old, lesser known characters or versions are being revisited. Just the well-know and trod upon.

Innovation seems to have gone the way of the dodo and people are in mourning, don't take it personal though, it's not like you're the one in charge of this idea. Everyone's doing it these days.
To be fair Prime Arcee,Soundwave,and Breakdown aren't really a homage to their G1 selves and that's certainly the case with Soundwave who acts and looks nothing like his G1 self. Arcee's not like her past version as well and Breakdown isn't the paranoid little shrimp.

I can see that with many characters but not all of them.
Emiliano
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Originally Posted by kaijuguy19 View Post
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Just a question for Emiliano. Have you done a Binder of Revelation concept of Arcee and if so does she look like her Prime self or at least have aspects from her Prime version?
I haven't worked on Arcee, but I can't tell if there was one, I haven't seen all the binder myself.
Keep in mind all this stuff was created before TF Prime.

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Originally Posted by Digilaut View Post
Can you tell how many characters you have done in this specific style? Were it just a couple of tests or were you assigned to explore the idea with many different characters?
Complicated answer
I did a lot of character in that style for the Pop-Up book (even if they deviated a bit as I woked on Matthew Reinhart specifications for the pop-ups)
Before that (I think 3 years ago), I did 4 characters on my own. Then I did a lot more where I rendered/modified Eric Siebaneler's sketches. I think those are amazing, but since I'm not the artist that originally draw them, I don't think I will be allowed to show them.
One is Optimus Prime. It's a Siebenaler sketch (with a detail from a previous sketch I did) that I rendered. That's the one where I come up with that rendering style actually

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