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Dark of the Moon Voyager Ironhide and Deluxe Starscream Official Images

Posted on 01-29-2011 at 06:54 PM by Sol Fury under Transformers Movie Toys & Products (All Transformers Movie News)
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Hasbro have sent us, on the back of the UK Toy Fair 2011, our very first official images from Transformers Dark of the Moon. Here for your enjoyment are official images of the Voyager Class Ironhide and the Deluxe Class Starscream. Both are completely new molds (no more rehashed 2007 Movie Voyager Ironhide, great toy that he was) and both feature Mechtech weapons. Ironhide has a new variation on his cannons, while Starscream gets a pair of weapons with fold out blades, which can dock into the largest melee weapon that a Deluxe class Transformer has wielded since Transformers Energon's Starscream and his giant sword. Read on to check out the images.
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Images for Dark of the Moon Voyager Ironhide and Deluxe Starscream Official Images

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Erector
Having handled an Ironhide yesterday, I'm pretty disappointed. The legs aren't bad but the chest won't hold in place, and yeah... he doesn't have ANY shoulders at all.

His mech-tech is pretty nifty though
Rogzilla
I have but one thing to say...WANT!!!!
Bumblethumper
Not bad for official hasbro pics.

They actually made the toys look pretty cool.
Ra88
Huh, the feet look completely different to the testshot. Weird.
xion14
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Originally Posted by Ra88 View Post
Huh, the feet look completely different to the testshot. Weird.
Ironhides feet are Mistransformed. Just like lots of Hasbros photos can be.
Shockscream
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Originally Posted by Locustreign View Post
Having handled an Ironhide yesterday, I'm pretty disappointed. The legs aren't bad but the chest won't hold in place, and yeah... he doesn't have ANY shoulders at all.

His mech-tech is pretty nifty though
He is entirely correct. The only thing going for this figure is his Mech-tech weapon. Proportionality seems entirely wrong and anyone that likes arms on their figures should give it a miss.

Trust in Locustreign. He is your friend, and is trying to help you all!
Anguirus
Hmm, with a review like that I may stick with Recon.

Starscream continues to look really cool though. His head sculpt is bangin', and I'm impressed with the incorporation of the mechtech into the vehicle mode. (It's DETACHABLE, but if you like them, they aren't super-intrusive. Compare it to 2007 Screamer's weapons...)
Omnius
If you have any previous version of Voyager Ironhide, in all honesty I recommend you keep it. Even if you don't - try and track one down before settling for DOTM Ironhide. The chest will fit together, but it takes work, and for some bizarre reason the arms attach to his body... at the elbows.

First impressions were based on an extended period handling an Ironhide yesterday morning. I was unimpressed.
T16skyhopp
Not bad but I think i'm passing.
tfmad2010
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Originally Posted by Omnius View Post
If you have any previous version of Voyager Ironhide, in all honesty I recommend you keep it. Even if you don't - try and track one down before settling for DOTM Ironhide. The chest will fit together, but it takes work, and for some bizarre reason the arms attach to his body... at the elbows.

First impressions were based on an extended period handling an Ironhide yesterday morning. I was unimpressed.
I knew his chest pieces would be like that .
Omnius
Once you trigger the test transformation (done by moving a couple of pirces), it's actually quite clever but there didn't seem to be an easy way of getting it to stay that way.
Shockscream
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Originally Posted by Omnius View Post
If you have any previous version of Voyager Ironhide, in all honesty I recommend you keep it. Even if you don't - try and track one down before settling for DOTM Ironhide. The chest will fit together, but it takes work, and for some bizarre reason the arms attach to his body... at the elbows.

First impressions were based on an extended period handling an Ironhide yesterday morning. I was unimpressed.
Or even the HFTD Deluxe. There was a Recon Ironhide knocking around when we were having a bash at the DOTM one and the former is far nicer. I feel I should point out that I was one of the people liking this figure before handling it in person yesterday. It seriously left me quite disappointed. However, I will say that if you like Ironhide's alt mode and want something to stay permanently in that state, that it looks perfectly fine. On the subject of his arms, my first thought was that they are disproportionately small (almost like Alternators). It isn't helped by his shockingly long legs.

As has been said, the Mech-tech attachment is possibly the best thing about the figure. I've not encountered an accessory that yielded quite so much "play value" before. There's also some nice moulding and paint work on it. It shows you something when you've got a number of people saying that the Mech-tech weapon is the best thing about the toy...

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Originally Posted by Anguirus View Post
Hmm, with a review like that I may stick with Recon.

Starscream continues to look really cool though. His head sculpt is bangin', and I'm impressed with the incorporation of the mechtech into the vehicle mode. (It's DETACHABLE, but if you like them, they aren't super-intrusive. Compare it to 2007 Screamer's weapons...)
Wisdom.

Starscream does look cool, and I shall definitely be investigating him.

While we're on the subject of DOTM figures, the Voyager Prime is a lot nicer in person that people are making out from the photos so far.
knoted
About the Starscream... I wonder if those panels under his wings can fold inwards when in jetmode.... from the pics... it seems they fold outwards which makes it portrude from under the wing a bit.
UnicronFTW
Can someone mirror the images?
Wheeljack_Prime
Aw, that's terrible news about Ironhide's shoulders!
Ra88
Sounds like they tried to match Ironhide's rather odd arms, and that's why articulation is a bit limited compared to the other voyagers. But is there really NO movement? In the promo-pic it looks like the upper arms (or what passes for them) are in different positions, and maybe even balljointed?

The spindly leg issue looks like it's easily fixed though; just bend them the same way as in that pic!
moreprimeland
I am disappoint with the news on Ironhide..he looks great in the pix, but if he won't stay in robot mode that well..maybe...his mech is awesome.

Starscream, looks like his mech is a ninja style double blade sword, again pretty awesome, but enough to buy another?? hmmmmm...
Rogzilla
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Originally Posted by Ra88 View Post
Sounds like they tried to match Ironhide's rather odd arms, and that's why articulation is a bit limited compared to the other voyagers. But is there really NO movement? In the promo-pic it looks like the upper arms (or what passes for them) are in different positions, and maybe even balljointed?

The spindly leg issue looks like it's easily fixed though; just bend them the same way as in that pic!
Peaugh just posted a review and they are on ball joints. I don't think he will be throwing his arms in the air like he just don't care, but I think he's got some movement.
Suchus Prime
Just shows how official pictures changes pass into buy.
NCStarscream
Cool pictures, especially for Screamer. Still not liking the overall look of Ironhide, though.
Ribieconvoy
Hm... Screamer's vehicle mode gives off a real Energon vibe what with the sword on one wing and a gun on the other.
Paxtin
I was debating on whether or not to get this guy, and I was already put off by the peg holes in vehicle-mode. Now that I've heard that the arms are that bad, I'll just skip it.
xion14
tomorrow I'm going to get a Recon Ironhide instead.
eagc7
want them!
Kaymac
I might pick up a Deluxe Ironhide now, since this Voyager is less than impressive. The picture makes him look AWESOME at first, but when you inspect it, those shoulders are pretty bad. The alt-mode, however, is probably the best of the Ironhide toys!

Starscream looks like a really good figure, on the other hand, and he has that MechTech weapon that's a throwback to the Energon version. Nice.
ORIO
That's a shame about Ironhide. I think he looks great
Rogzilla
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That's a shame about Ironhide. I think he looks great
I think so too. Honestly, from what I've seen, the arms aren't enough to change my mind on the figure. It sounds like the chest will take some tinkering to find that golden spot.
SPLIT LIP
I so, so hope Starscream's final toy has the same grey as the Leader.
megatroptimus
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Originally Posted by Locustreign View Post
the chest won't hold in place
I did a simple mod to fix that the other day. But we shouldn't have to mod brand new toys for them to work properly...
Suchus Prime
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I did a simple mod to fix that the other day. But we shouldn't have to mod brand new toys for them to work properly...
Mind telling us what mod, like did you have too cut anything off or just move a piece out of the way or something like that.
Shadow25
I actually LOVE the new Ironhide mold, it's much more accurate overall (if you use the Recon guns). When you rotate the wheels in, you now have those bits which represent the interior of the wheels on the CGI model holding the bottom of his chest together, a fantastic touch. The legs also manage the kibble much, much better, and look like they can be collapsed to make him a little more stocky. In Peaugh's review, I much prefered the wing pieces folded back as opposed to actually looking like wings, and that adds bulk to his upper body. The arms seem awkward, but actually are attached that low in the movie. The original mold went for a more basic proportioned look as the actual model is a bit deformed in that sense.
Cory Bauer
Jarodimus
No shoulders? Wow, that's nigh-inexcusable.

Who does he think he is, Energon Wing Saber?
xion14
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and that's how its been for years taunting us.
guard convoy
way to go hasbro, you actually made that starscream look GOOD, too bad the actual toy is a pile of trash
Gryph
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Originally Posted by Jarodimus View Post
No shoulders? Wow, that's nigh-inexcusable.

Who does he think he is, Energon Wing Saber?
They're limited, but he does. Those guys are just blowing things out of proportion.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...-ironhide.html
Auto Morph
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Originally Posted by Gryph View Post
They're limited, but he does. Those guys are just blowing things out of proportion.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...-ironhide.html
Not at all.

I played around with the new Ironhide for hours the other day as well and I can honestly say it's the WORST movie figure I've ever handled.
The shoulders/biceps are so far receded into the upper torso that they are rendered utterly pointless. The elbows are halfway along the forearm, for some reason, so you end up with stunted arms which have almost no range of movement at all.

The chest is just as bad. Once you manage to collapse the multiple hinge joints in the front of the truck, the two halves just persist in getting the way of clipping them in to where they are supposed to go. When you do manage to use all your strength to force the clip into place, it just pops straight back out. USELESS!

His head is completely blocked from looking left or right due to the fact that the chest pieces sit so high. Unless he;s looking straight ahead, he can't see anything.

The legs are GREAT, except for the fact that they are way too long. They are a brilliant mold with lots of paint apps and detail, but they make the upper body look tiny. I mean deformed tiny. Whether that is a fault with the legs or the upper body is open to judgement.

Overall, you couldn't get me to take one of these for free. We had a lot of time to play with the figure and transform him and discuss the pros and cons and really, everybody just ended up getting disappointed and angry with how shit it is.

Astonishingly, the best feature of the figure - BY FAR - is the Mech Tech weapon. Although it does look like a robot sex toy once you start pumping it.
Fort Max
Wow, crushing reviews of Ironhide. Saves me twenty quid I suppose, for about five minutes!

Starscreams weapon just looks better with every new picture.
Erector
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Originally Posted by Gryph View Post
They're limited, but he does. Those guys are just blowing things out of proportion.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...-ironhide.html
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Originally Posted by Auto Morph View Post
Not at all.

I played around with the new Ironhide for hours the other day as well and I can honestly say it's the WORST movie figure I've ever handled.
The shoulders/biceps are so far receded into the upper torso that they are rendered utterly pointless. The elbows are halfway along the forearm, for some reason, so you end up with stunted arms which have almost no range of movement at all.

The chest is just as bad. Once you manage to collapse the multiple hinge joints in the front of the truck, the two halves just persist in getting the way of clipping them in to where they are supposed to go. When you do manage to use all your strength to force the clip into place, it just pops straight back out. USELESS!

His head is completely blocked from looking left or right due to the fact that the chest pieces sit so high. Unless he;s looking straight ahead, he can't see anything.

The legs are GREAT, except for the fact that they are way too long. They are a brilliant mold with lots of paint apps and detail, but they make the upper body look tiny. I mean deformed tiny. Whether that is a fault with the legs or the upper body is open to judgement.

Overall, you couldn't get me to take one of these for free. We had a lot of time to play with the figure and transform him and discuss the pros and cons and really, everybody just ended up getting disappointed and angry with how shit it is.

Astonishingly, the best feature of the figure - BY FAR - is the Mech Tech weapon. Although it does look like a robot sex toy once you start pumping it.
Basically what AM said. The shoulders do TECHNICALLY exit, but they're so far into the torso that there is 0 movement capability at all. From memory I think the elbows are pinned into the torso as well. It's exceedingly poorly designed.
Shockscream
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Originally Posted by Gryph View Post
They're limited, but he does. Those guys are just blowing things out of proportion.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...-ironhide.html
I beg to differ. The only thing that's out of proportion is Ironhide. As one of the people present and having had a go with the Ironhide, I can assure that he is a very limited figure. The consensus was absolute. I turned down the opportunity to take one for free in favour of keeping the Deluxe and Recon Voyager.

Shoulders are present on the toy but are rendered useless. Had this come out with the first movie it would have been fine as we didn't know any better. I believe that the original Voyager for all of its faults and that harrowing upper body move during transformation is superior in all ways.

I am not for a moment saying that you shouldn't buy him if you want him. I'd never say that to anyone. Like the others that were with me when we played with this figure, I am merely offering a first-hand opinion. While we didn't film it and put it on YouTube for your (dis)pleasure, this is no different to a review conducted by Peaugh or any of the other YouTube reviewers.

His arms are shockingly small and thin; to the point of being jarring. The torso is visually impressive if you can forgive the fact that it is very difficult to get into position. The transformation of his legs is impressive. In fact, the transformation has many unique and interesting steps. However, as an entire package the figure is a failure. Whether the supreme articulation and transformations found in the recent Generations and Reveal the Shield figures has rendered us jaded is possible. However, as a person that owns or has owned the original Voyager, the Recon, and the Deluxe, I can say with confidence that is one pales in comparison to them. If you are a serious Ironhide fan, buy him. If not, save yourself the disappointment.

All of us are of the same opinion about this figure. We are not lone voices shouting in the wilderness in an effort to upset the fandom. We are not trolling. We've seen it, we've touched, we've transformed it. We've concluded that we are not impressed and more than a little disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Auto Morph View Post
Astonishingly, the best feature of the figure - BY FAR - is the Mech Tech weapon. Although it does look like a robot sex toy once you start pumping it.
Quoted for truth and wisdom. When Mech-Tech becomes the overwhelmingly best feature of something, there is a problem. As for the more erotic possibilities posed by its existence, I encourage the consultation of the YouTube video known as "Filthy Sunstorm". It's enlightening to say the least.

In all seriousness, the Mech-Tech weapons are an okay concept on the Voyagers that we saw -- those being Ironhide and Prime. They are unobtrusive and offer a vast amount of play value. In truth, they're little more than guns with Automorph and MechAlive systems. On the Leaders, they're very large and a bit daft-looking. All the electronics are shifted into them which may make some people happy as it creates a Leader figure (although a small one) with a transformation that isn't hindered by the necessity of leaving space for batteries and a voice chip.
shroobmaster
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Originally Posted by Cory Bauer View Post
Not really considering everybody saw the figure in real form before the Hasbro photoshop this time around.
Renidragon
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Originally Posted by Omnius View Post
If you have any previous version of Voyager Ironhide, in all honesty I recommend you keep it. Even if you don't - try and track one down before settling for DOTM Ironhide. The chest will fit together, but it takes work, and for some bizarre reason the arms attach to his body... at the elbows.

First impressions were based on an extended period handling an Ironhide yesterday morning. I was unimpressed.
I wasn't wild about that big honkin' gun, but it's at least detatchable, but something else didn't seem really right. Glad you pointed out the arms, I hadn't noticed. I'd love to find a Recon Ironhide, but I'll stick to my 07 for now.
SydneyY
Great promo pics, but Ironhide sounds very underwhelming. I'll probably get one though....
Auto Morph
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Great promo pics, but Ironhide sounds very underwhelming. I'll probably get one though....
You will be cursing yourself if you do mate. Seriously, don't go anywhere near.
Rogzilla
After rewatching the video review, I can see more what you guys were saying about the arms. It still isn't enough to stop me from getting him because, as I see IH as being a sort of the bulky-bodybuilder type, I'm fine with him not being flexable. :-P

I think the chest will probably be easier to do once there are instructions. I bet there is just some little thing that is being overlooked that will make it at least some what easier. I mean, Peaugh was eventually able to get it pegged in, even if it was by accident. Also, since the rest of the transformation seems pretty straight forward, a single difficult part isn't going to discourage me. I mean, if that was the case, I would never have picked up ROTF Leader Prime. :-P I just think the idea behind the chest transformation is so neat!

But, maybe he will get the rumored leader class figure and this will all be moot.
35InchMudders
I can't believe what I'm reading here...

Seriously, just how spoiled are we as a fandom?

Let's get things straight here, without the extremist BS coming from a few very vocal "fans" here that seem to enjoy writing novels with fancy wording to express their insane hatred over a f'ing toy:

A) The only downside of this figure are the shoulder joints, they don't offer much room for movement. A bummer? Sure, does it destroy everything else that looks great on this figure? No.

B) The proportions aren't too off. The arms are almost identical in position to how the movie model has them, anyone who claims otherwise isn't paying attention. The legs are longer than the movie, but not to a degree that destroys the look of the figure. If anything it makes Ironhide a lil' more heroic in proportions. I'm cool with that.

C) The center tab doesn't connect easily/well, it's not that big of a deal, it's not crucial to how the figure balances or anything vital like that. Deal with it.

So we've got a few extremist fans going apesh*t over lack of shoulder articulation and a center tab that doesn't quite click? You're destroying a figure that has so much greatness over a few lil nitpicky issues?

Where's the focus on the *amazing* parts of this figure, like the tire details in the chest, the lack of kibble (other than what is actually on the movie model itself) and the general screen likeness that was nailed.

I really can't believe all the negativity from some people. I watched Peaugh's review and it looks like an amazing rendition of Ironhide, the closest we've had. So much great engineering went into this figure, and you spoiled lil brats can't even respect the work that went into this figure. I swear, you people don't even deserve G1-level toys. Pathetic.
Ra88
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Originally Posted by Shockscream View Post
All of us are of the same opinion about this figure. We are not lone voices shouting in the wilderness in an effort to upset the fandom. We are not trolling. We've seen it, we've touched, we've transformed it. We've concluded that we are not impressed and more than a little disappointed.
No offense, but from what Peaugh said, all Ironhides so fare are quality control rejects. The shoulder-issue might remain a problem, but the rest of the issues could be fixed with the actual product, including the chest-locking issues. The negative reviews are a shame, but I won't write it off until we get a review of a proper sample.

Besides, the long leg issue is simply solved: Just pose them like in the promo pic! He did walk around like that in the movie.
Red leader
Whatever mate, 10 people spent the day messing about the toy and not one liked it but because you have seen a video review they are wrong, yeah that makes sense.




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Originally Posted by 35InchMudders View Post
I can't believe what I'm reading here...

Seriously, just how spoiled are we as a fandom?

Let's get things straight here, without the extremist BS coming from a few very vocal "fans" here that seem to enjoy writing novels with fancy wording to express their insane hatred over a f'ing toy:

A) The only downside of this figure are the shoulder joints, they don't offer much room for movement. A bummer? Sure, does it destroy everything else that looks great on this figure? No.

B) The proportions aren't too off. The arms are almost identical in position to how the movie model has them, anyone who claims otherwise isn't paying attention. The legs are longer than the movie, but not to a degree that destroys the look of the figure. If anything it makes Ironhide a lil' more heroic in proportions. I'm cool with that.

C) The center tab doesn't connect easily/well, it's not that big of a deal, it's not crucial to how the figure balances or anything vital like that. Deal with it.

So we've got a few extremist fans going apesh*t over lack of shoulder articulation and a center tab that doesn't quite click? You're destroying a figure that has so much greatness over a few lil nitpicky issues?

Where's the focus on the *amazing* parts of this figure, like the tire details in the chest, the lack of kibble (other than what is actually on the movie model itself) and the general screen likeness that was nailed.

I really can't believe all the negativity from some people. I watched Peaugh's review and it looks like an amazing rendition of Ironhide, the closest we've had. So much great engineering went into this figure, and you spoiled lil brats can't even respect the work that went into this figure. I swear, you people don't even deserve G1-level toys. Pathetic.

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