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Challenge at Cybertron not getting US release; Two Pack Release for Ironhide and Bonecrusher

Posted on 09-16-2010 at 04:21 PM by Sol Fury under Transformers Movie Toys & Products (All Transformers Movie News)
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The first answers from the latest round of Hasbro's Transformers Q&A are filtering back to various sites and with it some news on upcoming Transformers releases.

First of all, there's news on a new Walmart Exclusive two pack. We knew about both toys that we suspect are involved, but here is the confirmation, as posted in a response to CoolToyReview - Walmart will be getting two exclusive Transformers Movie series Two Packs, each containing a Voyager and a Deluxe. Images have already surfaced for the first, containing Starscream and Mudflap. The second which we've suspected for a while contains Ironhide and Bonecrusher. Granted, we don't know which Ironhide and Bonecrusher toys these might be - but we've seen images of an unknown blue Recon Ironhide and an unknown Battle Damaged Bonecrusher. There's also that one listing for a "Fury of Bonecrusher" two-pack. Could these be destined for the same two pack?

Also revealed in the CoolToyReview response is another exclusive - Costco will be getting an exclusive pack with Battle Ops Bumblebee and a pair of Legends - Mudflap and "Premium Bumblebee". We're not sure what this Premium Bumblebee Legend is, so stay tuned to TFW2005 for more news on what he might be as it becomes available.

On a sour note though, The Allspark got to be the bearer of bad news. Asking about the Challenge at Cybertron set, which was initially rumored to be a Target exclusive, they received a response that the set is actually an Asian market exclusive and is not planned for a US release.
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Megatronwp38
Oooook?

Translation: We still have a bunch of Allspark Blue rotting round here so let's use it up! LOL
jametron
No, that's not vague OR complete bullshit...
Sharktibolt
I find it more interesting their response to their second question. While most of it isn't anything new, they do reveal that there will be a Ironhide/Bonecrusher 2-pack exclusive to Wal-Mart. I'm willing to guess it's the Bonecrusher and Recon Ironhide repaints we've seen floating around.
G1Wheeljack
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Originally Posted by kylash327 View Post
Hasbro: This deco was inspired by a specific scene in Revenge of the Fallen. Our objective was to try and make The Fallen's "skin" appear almost metallic beetle like. So the lighter blue was to help pop the design so that it was not "too" dark and balance this off with the midnight blue/purple color.
SOMEBODY at Hasbro likes Jaime Reyes as the Blue Beetle
Rogzilla
OK, so they wanted to add highlights and chose a really light blue for a monochromatic look. Meh, I'd buy that for a nickel. I don't think it's as good as, say, a black with red highlights, but I suppose that is as good of a reason as any, regardless of how well it worked.
mx-01 archon
Well, no, I can kinda see what they were going for given that description.

But without iridescent paint, the idea pretty much fails. But they do just say it was inspiration. Maybe that's where they started, but they liked where it ended up anyways.
Sol Fury
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Originally Posted by Sharktibolt View Post
I find it more interesting their response to their second question. While most of it isn't anything new, they do reveal that there will be a Ironhide/Bonecrusher 2-pack exclusive to Wal-Mart. I'm willing to guess it's the Bonecrusher and Recon Ironhide repaints we've seen floating around.
Sounds about right. I think I called that a while ago when we saw the Mudflap & Starscream Wal-mart Exclusive pack.
Anti Spark
I thought it was blue cause that's what it looks like when you look at the original toy in Negative filter.
Fit For natalie
Probably the real reasoning is: Releasing him in the original colours would make retailers and consumers think it's just "The Fallen with a New Hat" (or stick, in this case).
Shin Densetsu
The real answer toy CTR's 2nd question:

Human Alliance Mudflap Emerges At TJ Maxx - Transformers News
Rogzilla
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Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu View Post
No doubt! Seriously, way to not answer the question at all Hasbro!
Deceptigtar
why do they even bother answering any questions, when they dont even answer them at all?

there is no scene that i know of in ROTF where the fallen looks, blue.

and way to not even answer the second. please see list below where we dont even mention HAMF.
NCStarscream
Thanks again to Dan at CTR for sending in my questions

I was also glad to get that list for the second one, even though it had nothing to do with what I asked - gave away the identities and contents of a couple sets that hadn't been confirmed! And finding HA Mudflap yesterday at TJMaxx got me the answer to that anyway
Dinobot Nuva
So Fury of Bonecrusher is officially a Walmart exclusive with that Battle Damaged Deluxe and Offroad Recon Ihide.

Costco Cyber Ops Bee makes me rage if I have to hunt down an exclusive legends figure.
kensou
well, no better than expected
influence82
Hey at least they asked a decent question about the reasoning behind a design choice of a toy already in the works. Blue is not that bad. At least they remolded the face, making it removable. And yes, lighter colors bring out the sculpting details better.
Da_Razorsaw
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Originally Posted by Megatronwp38 View Post
Oooook?

Translation: We still have a bunch of Allspark Blue rotting round here so let's use it up! LOL
That's not how toy decos work.
miscreant
Those CTR answers are so bad, it's like they thought it was a G.I.Joe QandA.
Digilaut
Huh, I was pretty sure he was purple/tealc (NOT BLUE), because..you know..he's the original Decepticon. And purple and tealc are the 'main' Decepticon colors, like red and blue are for the Autobots.

I still don't understand why people keep saying it's blue. Somebody reported a very blurry 'blue' Fallen in the back in a photo a while back, and I guess it stuck..but did you even see the toy?
eriku
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Originally Posted by Deceptigtar View Post
why do they even bother answering any questions, when they dont even answer them at all?
That's the heart and soul of Public Relations. There's probably several PR classes devoted specifically to mastering the art of answering a question by not answering the question. If you do it well enough you can become a politician.

As for the blue Fallen, I find myself drawn to him almost specifically because of the colors. I don't like the character, I don't like the sculpt of the toy, I don't like the movie it's from...yet when I look at all that blue and purple I can feel the WANT butterflies flapping their wings.
Shin Densetsu
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Originally Posted by miscreant View Post
Those CTR answers are so bad, it's like they thought it was a G.I.Joe QandA.
The GI Joe Q&A's actually got better a few months ago. There was definitely a noticeable difference with some of the answers.
Tigermegatron
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Originally Posted by Megatronwp38 View Post
Oooook?

Translation: We still have a bunch of Allspark Blue rotting round here so let's use it up! LOL
or,we haven't done a Cyro repaint for years,lets do another one using the ROTF voyager fallen toy.

Personally I love the staff,new face & slightly poseable new hands. I just think it's a shame I have to get a blue repaint just to get all this stuff.

IMO,The toy is called the fallen. in the comics it was a black design with fire inside it. recoloring the fallen blue is like repainting optimus prime in megatron's G-1 toy colors.
Dinobot Nuva
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Originally Posted by Tigermegatron View Post
IMO,The toy is called the fallen. in the comics it was a black design with fire inside it. recoloring the fallen blue is like repainting optimus prime in megatron's G-1 toy colors.
Fire ain't restricted to a specific color y'know, there is such a thing as a blue flame...
G1_Cindersaur
actually after the fallen punks the carrier and is sitting on the top of the screws (propellers) and they zoom in on him with the wonder stick of doom...his face and chest area does have a bluish hue to it....especially the frills on the sides of his face.
Lucs
Dang I am still hoping to get that Awesome Ironhide in RED for a sweet movie/g1 display. Why doesn't hasbro make him in red already? I mean besides the legends version
Autobot Burnout
Wow. So, according to the news article, I'll have to pay for that Blue Recon Ironhide (who I do want) AND that crappy Bonecrusher because it's another WM set? The only reason I even own a Bonecrusher is because I got it as a Christmas present with Voyager Prime, and I honestly do not like the figure all that much. But I REALLY want that Ironhide, so maybe I could sell the Bonecrusher to a friend and recoup some of the losses.

And what utter BS about the Cybertron 3-pack. I still do not understand why the best looking multi-pack of figures in a long while that was going to be a sure-fire seller because of Rodimus and the upcoming FP armor is suddenly restricted to the Asian market. What the hell Hasbro? Those awful two-packs with the leftover ROTF stock repaints taking too much space at Target?
Beastbot X
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Originally Posted by Autobot Burnout View Post
Wow. So, according to the news article, I'll have to pay for that Blue Recon Ironhide (who I do want) AND that crappy Bonecrusher because it's another WM set? The only reason I even own a Bonecrusher is because I got it as a Christmas present with Voyager Prime, and I honestly do not like the figure all that much. But I REALLY want that Ironhide, so maybe I could sell the Bonecrusher to a friend and recoup some of the losses.
Well, at least with Bonecrusher, you can be rest assured the feeling is mutual, so you don't need to feel bad when you give him away.
TfAnimatedfan
Yeah, sure, It's not like a three pack of fan favorite characters would sell better than pointless movie repaints!!!

I wonder if they even bothered to offer it to US retailers Kind of a stupid move if they didn't.
Deceptigtar
Watch online retailers jack the price up know. Knew this would not see stateside.
Kaymac
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Challenge for Cybertron is an Asian Market Exclusive
Sso02V
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Originally Posted by TfAnimatedfan View Post
Yeah, sure, It's not like a three pack of fan favorite characters would sell better than pointless movie repaints!!!
"Mommy, who's Galvatron? He wasn't in the movie, I hate him, and he's purple, like a girl!"

"OHMYGOD IT'S BUMBLEBEE"

That's why.
Kaymac
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Originally Posted by Sso02V View Post
"Mommy, who's Galvatron? He wasn't in the movie, I hate him, and he's purple, like a girl!"

"OHMYGOD IT'S BUMBLEBEE"

That's why.
If the kid seriously wants Bumblebee, he'll buy one of the single packed ones. Multipacks usually shelfwarm no matter who's in them.
Blitzving
One word: CRYOTEK
TfAnimatedfan
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Originally Posted by Sso02V View Post
"Mommy, who's Galvatron? He wasn't in the movie, I hate him, and he's purple, like a girl!"

"OHMYGOD IT'S BUMBLEBEE"

That's why.
Is Bonecrusher a Kid recognizable character? Animated Arcee was pinkish, seems like that sold well.
Dran0n
No Challenge at Cybertron?

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Jericho
What was the challenge at cybertron anyway?
mx-01 archon
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Originally Posted by G1_Cindersaur View Post
actually after the fallen punks the carrier and is sitting on the top of the screws (propellers) and they zoom in on him with the wonder stick of doom...his face and chest area does have a bluish hue to it....especially the frills on the sides of his face.
That's what I was saying earlier. It does attempt to replicate the colour effects used on The Fallen in the film, but because the toy doesn't try to replicate the iridescence, and is also not dark enough, the illusion pretty much fails. One of the reps at BotCon (maybe Joe Kyde) did say that he wasn't happy with the outcome, but it is what it is.

And the colourscheme does have its own appeal, accuracy aside.
Wheeljack_Prime
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Originally Posted by TfAnimatedfan View Post
Is Bonecrusher a Kid recognizable character? Animated Arcee was pinkish, seems like that sold well.
You seem to think that Arcee was on the pegs long enough to have anybody other than hardcore collectors see them.
eagc7
crap i wanted the battle dmaged boencrusher :/
Kaijumaster
No challenge at cybertron? That is the height of BS-ery.
Waverider
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Originally Posted by TfAnimatedfan View Post
Is Bonecrusher a Kid recognizable character? Animated Arcee was pinkish, seems like that sold well.
No, but Ironhide is.
Knightsword
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Originally Posted by Jericho View Post
What was the challenge at cybertron anyway?
A 3 pack of Hot Rod, Galvatron, and Cyclonus in 86 Movie/Cartoon colors.
Emperor Zarak
*sheds a tear because of how expensive it will be to get the Challenge At Cybertron*
Waverider
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Originally Posted by Autobot Burnout View Post
And what utter BS about the Cybertron 3-pack. I still do not understand why the best looking multi-pack of figures in a long while that was going to be a sure-fire seller because of Rodimus and the upcoming FP armor is suddenly restricted to the Asian market. What the hell Hasbro? Those awful two-packs with the leftover ROTF stock repaints taking too much space at Target?
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Originally Posted by Dran0n View Post
No Challenge at Cybertron?

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Originally Posted by Kaijumaster View Post
No challenge at cybertron? That is the height of BS-ery.
Why all the buthurt?

As I said in another thread:
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My favorite assumption was "The package is in English so it's got to be released in the US". But people forgot that Hasbro Asia packaging is in English and has a history of Asian only releases.
There was no indication that this will be released in the US market. The only thing that was mentioned was from an AA news update that was later corrected. Here was the post.
Computron34
Wasn't the price for the 3 pack like 39.99 or something through places like BBTS and TFSource? Up to 54.99 now. Although I could be completely wronf about that.
Waverider
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Originally Posted by Computron34 View Post
Wasn't the price for the 3 pack like 39.99 or something through places like BBTS and TFSource? Up to 54.99 now. Although I could be completely wronf about that.
It was always $54.99. $39.99 was one of the prices thrown around by wishful thinking fans on how much the set would cost if it was released in the US.

This still might be a surprise item as a "Black Friday" item.
G1_Cindersaur
better just get the damned package now...if you all quibble and wait...it will go out of stock and then the price will just climb on the after market....

on a side note...crystal rodimus is the BOMB!

just got my sons of cybertron set today....very nice....optimus is even 1/2 way ok too.
Waverider
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Originally Posted by G1_Cindersaur View Post
better just get the damned package now...if you all quibble and wait...it will go out of stock and then the price will just climb on the after market....

on a side note...crystal rodimus is the BOMB!

just got my sons of cybertron set today....very nice....optimus is even 1/2 way ok too.
True dat...

TFSource and ToyArena is sold out and BBTS has only 75 left.
Angelwave
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Originally Posted by Waverider View Post
It was always $54.99. $39.99 was one of the prices thrown around by wishful thinking fans on how much the set would cost if it was released in the US.
I've still been trying to figure out how Target even got into the equation.....

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Originally Posted by Waverider View Post
This still might be a surprise item as a "Black Friday" item.
True...but even those chances seems to be incredibly slim. With Hasbro saying this now, and it's only just over a couple of months before Black Friday, and with no retailer assigned to it......yeah....that's a no go.

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