Rumor: More Information on Revenge of the Fallen Devastator Gestalt Toy

I'm not surprised, thats going to be one HUGE combiner if the voyagers actually combined

Perhaps they were worried about lawsuits about the giant combined version falling on little kids.

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Considering how well engineered almost all of the first movie toys were, no need to panic. I'm sure it will look cool.

what are you talking about, non-transformable? Last I checked, a bulldozer doesn't look like an arm. Seems like there'll be some transforming going on there.

You know, we have no idea how they transform in limb mode.

It may very well be that they transform into limbs in such a way so as to not allow a robot-to-vehicle transformation on the deluxe scale (unless they want to severely impair one of the modes).

I'm running off the assumption that the biggun will be a core robot with vehicle and robot modes, and the limbs will all be vehicles that turn into body parts. It'd be great because the limbs won't be hindered by having to also turn into fully-articulated robots, and the deluxe versions won't be hindered by having to turn into (what I can only assume would be) fully articulated limbs.

Did i just hear the final death cry of the gestalts!

if they can't do this right then they shouldn't do any attempt at all. Travesty

Sounds interesting. It will definitely worth to buy.

This is what happens when you overcomplicate designs just to try to be badass. Extremely lame. Anyone else tired of movie news that gets you so pumped up you want to take a nap?

This way, you could have the combined gestalt figure to represent that mode, and then a second set to represent each member of the team.

At least this is more confirmation the Constructicons will be in the movie.

Definitely not impressed by this news.

This is a big letdown.

so... devastator is not a gestalt?

he's just an energon prime wannabee

This would be cool.

Disappointing, but eh. If the deluxes are at least kitbashable it could turn out alright with some work.

Not hating it though- provided the vehicle-->limb transformation is at least involved in some way.

Wait so is this just in toys?? Or in the movie is he not going to have 6 individual personalities?? I'm not one to bitch, but I'd rather not have a (combiner) "That's what we call them here back in the 80s", than a Combiner that really isn't comprised of individual Transformers, thus he is more like a Nano Bot from hell.

I'm starting to suspect it will be very involved. After all, the movie won't be able to get away with tacking a construction vehicle onto the side of a larger robot, tacking on a hand and calling it an arm.

Come to think, I don't think it's possible for Hasbro to engineer a movieverse Devastator with limb transformations for all the components - it sounds to me like they're going with the best compromise.

What the crap?.............please be false info...........

I almost get the feeling that this might actually be a completely different toy to the actual official combiner toy we'll hopefully be getting. You know, the one that's made of deluxe and voyager figures that we were told about before.
Remember those kits that came out for the last film that came with a proto-form and a car that'd come apart and then attach to the proto-form like armor to create a figure that looks kind of like Bumblebee? I think that's what this is, and this insider is getting it confused with the actual combiner toy we're getting....I hope.

Cause to be honest, if that is what they end up giving us and calling a transformer conbiner...I'm not buying it. I'm usually one to give something a chance too, but...no. I wouldn't spend money on that crap.

Without having read the whole thread (sorry, it's a long one): I think anyone expecting typical 1 robot = 1 limb transformations is going to be disappointed.

It's likely less, "I'm the arm, he's the leg" and more "I'm a shoulder and a bit of the torso. This guy splits and becomes both forearms. That guy over there is the lower back and bits of the right leg..."

Which would look VERY cool on my shelf indeed.

i agree

Like I said, in the toy world, I'm ok with all of this, but in the movie, I don't want some robot that assimilates machines to become his limbs. That's more like the Nanobot in Ninja Turtles.

I'm sure the movie will still kick some ass, but this is now what I hoped for Devastator. 6 guys, 6 personalities, 6 Transformers, one combiner. Not 1 robot who joins up with random junk to make a combiner.

Some is good.... some isnt.... well I would only have (if the deluxe class toys could combine) I would only have them set up as Devastator on the shelf.... but then it depends on the size of the vehicles and thier diffrent qualities..... wait a minute, didnt they make a good Superion Maximus, Constructicon Maximus & Bruticus Maximus like 3 years ago.... why the hell cant they make a good version where they damn combine properly....
One of the most anticipated movies, NOT one of the most anticiped toy lines!!!

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That is not helpful. If you don't like the news say so, at least that would add something to the thread, if only very little.

There's that too.


That is what I'm thinking. To make a combined devastator toy look anything like the movie, the transformation would be far too complex and easily broken (OMG Hasbro QC strikes againz ) if each vehicle had all three modes (vehicle, robot and limb). So from the sounds the supreme sized Devastaor that combines will be one robot and 5 or 6 vehicles that transform and combine to basically form a set of armor to integrate with the main robot.

In addition there are individually packaged versions of the limb that can transform into robots.

This could also work into the movie as well. Consider this, during the movie all 6 or 7 construction vehicles are given life, transform to robots and do their bad guy thing. During an epic battle 6 are killed and one is heavily damaged. The main bad guy (Megatron, The Fallen, Cy-kill, etc) uses the remnants of the all spark to repair/reconfigure the one heavily damaged robot and converts the other 6 into transformable armor. Thus we'd get toys of both version, just like we got toys for both versions of Bumblebee.

I think people are confused. I THINK, the movie will depict constructicons as we know them, with robot modes. It's just the Supreme Class toy that will just have limbs that won't have robot modes.

The deluxe will have robot modes.

Likewise.

This was a lose-lose situation for Hasbro.

Either they could've designed Deluxes that could all combine, resulting in unstable seperate and gestalt modes, and hear the fans compain about how much the toy sucks (energon combiners).

Or they design a set of constructicons, only one of which has a full robot mode, and have them combine to form a more stable, more articulate gestalt, but the fans still complain because the other 'bots can't transform into robots.

Me? I'll buy the complete gestalt. It didn't both me one bit that Energon Prime's parts couldn't transform into robots, or that Tidal Wave was composed of three vehicles that didn't have their own robot modes. Not to mention I have my own small collection of Megazords, most of which the individual parts can't transform by themselves. It's better then getting a single component of the gestalt with no combinations at all (Silverbolt, Onslaught)

Man, I hope so... I will still watch and love the movie, but my expectations, as far a Devi goes, will be diminished a little.

I'll buy all of them. When fighting alone I'll use the deluxes, but when the big guy's needed I roll out the vehicles. Sounds like a very fair comprimise.

Very, very good speculation! This also sounds like a plausible idea.

This better be wrong. It really better be. Because if it is...well let's just say I'll be really pissed. No matter how flashy the final product looks, this will be (in my opinion) the worst excuse for a gestault ever made. It'll make the Universe Bruticus and Superion repaints coming out seem like gods to those who hated them only weeks before.

I'm serious: A gestault is an automatic failure if its individual components can not transform.

On the bright side, I think most of what this guy said is a joke. If the individual modes are stuck in vehicle forms, that means that when they combine they'll be stuck in vehicle forms too. That just sounds ridiculous to me.

The Optimus Prime and Jetfire combination thing sounds sweet, however there are many other figures who I'd rather see combine with Optimus...like Ultra Magnus, for example. That turned out well the last time they did it--Omega Prime from RID is one of the most badass combiners ever made. Although I'd like to see how Hasbro manages to pull off combining a truck and a jet.

Um...if they're combining, odds are they WON'T be stuck in vehicle forms.

Do you seriously think that they're going to do a Scramble City-style combiner in the movie? Odds are that the vehicles will actually transform rather than just clipping on to the body (and adding a hand and foot)

I guess after so many years of combiner limbs being naught but their vehicle mode with an appendage shoved up its tailpipe, it's become difficult for people to imagine anything else.

Given the usual design of the movie bots, I will be extremely surprised if Devastator's components are as obvious looking as G1 Devastator's.

Agreed!

This sounds retarded. What a disappointment. I hope it isn't true. I was really looking forward to collecting all the deluxe sized components for one big ass Devestator. Or buying a box set. The Constructicons should each have their own robot forms for each vehicle as far as I'm concerned. I for one like the personalities of each individual Constructicon. I'm tired of Bay and co changing anything and everything just for the sake of change, and making their lives easier.

Here's an idea Bay, if you're not gonna do something right, don't bother doing it at all.

Right. Also, this being a movie universe Decepticon, odds are there will be nothing resembling hands on this 'bot.

So basically, it is like Voltron or Energon Prime.....

Angry Kennedy Says: LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMME!!!

I won't overall believe it, but since this guy gave us other "real" things, I will take it with a grain of salt.

I don't even know what to say. The original idea of 6 deluxes and 1 voyager making a massive robot got me really hot and bothered. It's like being set up on a blind date, and having your friends tell you how hot this chick is and then when you meet her, she's a dude.

This BETTER be a bunch of bullcrap.

If this is true, this will be one of the worst ideas for a TF toy EVER. It worked for Energon Prime, because Optimus never really had any sentient combiner parts (unless Roller was partially sentient, unsure about Roller).

But Voltron Style...for Devastator? LLLAAAAAAAAMMMMEEEEEE!!!!

INFINATE EPIC FAIL!!!

Yeah, I think we're talking just about the toys here and this will have no reflection on Devi in the movie.

Wow, leave it up to the movie to disappoint at every turn...

I fail to see the problem here. If they did a bunch of movie style robots that combined, then it would compromise both the regular and combined robot modes. The idea to make two versions is actually very good.

Interesting. If the transformable individuals will be deluxe scale, I wonder what size the gestalt will be. My guess is leader size as the larger toys don't seem to sell as well, let alone harder to get the retail shelf space for large ticket items too.

Hasbro all we want is 7 construticons that transform into devastator all deluxe class transformable ball joint head and has good posibility if so you got a easy 70 bucks from most transformers fan OR MORE ! like have 1 of the 7 constructicons be a voyager. Make it something us fans can remember make us love and crave for more. Make us love you hasbro please u make me cry !

No, the non-combining transformable ones will be deluxe. The combining ones are voyagers that merge into a supreme class.

Anyone else think that there will be a proper transforming and combining Devastator eventually? Say...to coincide with the DVD release?

Toys...expecially Transformers...have had a habit of releasing one version one day, then releasing another version the next day. The next version is what everyone always wanted (Walmart Starscream, Leader Brawl, Premiums, Deep Space Starscream), but they put out the worse version first to maximize their profits.

Agreed ! I hope there is a good reason the deluxes cannot combine into Devastator; like if the combined deluxes are so mashed up in Devastator that they are barely recognisable and near impossible to engineer. I was hoping some Hasbro engineers had some say in the movie designs to point out what is possible to recreate into a toy and what is not.

All in all, if the deluxes can be kitbashed into Devastator fairly easily I will be pissed.

If "Voltron Style" is the worst criticism then this is still awesome

Combining robots from vehicles is like getting a blue Ferrari when you wanted a red one. It ain't so bad