Ratchet2007:
Long Haul looks awesome
And Blackout shall suffice for now
realCliffjumper:
Hmmm. I like Grindor. Long Haul is a little disapointing.
Takara_destron:
Wow.
That picture actually just sold me on Grindor.
Long Haul I was getting anyway
Human Beastbox:
Man, they didn't even give Grindor a new head sculpt, did they?
Easy pass, and I love Blackout.
Long Haul--a simple black wash, and he will be awesome!
shibamura_prime:
Grindor looks officially badass in those colors.
Long Haul's pretty cool too, but I actually think the FAB version is more spot-on. That and the hooks are neat looking, but I would've preferred some missiles. Whatever, I'm still getting him.
ersico:
whats a black wash?
Counterpunch?:
Wash Grindor that color in the movie?
Rob Almighty: Quote:
Originally Posted by Counterpunch? Wash Grindor that color in the movie? |
I think he was a bit darker, kind of between Blackout (movie render) and Grindor (toy) colors.
Z.U.D.O.N: Quote:
Originally Posted by shibamura_prime Grindor looks officially badass in those colors. |
I agree!

The blend of colours is way better!
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Originally Posted by shibamura_prime Long Haul's pretty cool too, but I actually think the FAB version is more spot-on. That and the hooks are neat looking, but I would've preferred some missiles. Whatever, I'm still getting him. |
I agree too. I'm utterly disappointed at the Voyager Long Haul. Solely because he isn't as buff as he should be like in the movie, which FAB has done reasonably well. Also, I've seen Peaugh's video review on this dude and I don't like how the big "shoulder wheels" are positioned. So he's a big no no for me.
Grindor is superb here, and I might get him
Starwave:
Might get Grindor since he is the only good Blackout repaint since Premium and I never got Blackout. Long Haul looks good but I am focussing on other things.
Tkemert20:
Long Haul=Badass As Usual, Definatley Getting Him!

Grindor=He's OK, Might As Well Get Him Since I Wasn't Able To Get Blackout Back In '07.
Alienbot:
Yeah, Grindor was white, whereas Blackout was blue.
Fort Max:
Wave 5! Who was in wave 4?
Tim Formas: Quote:
Originally Posted by Fort Max Wave 5! Who was in wave 4? |
Wave 3 - Megatron & Mixmaster
Wave 4 - Stratosphere
Scantron:
I've been very impressed with the Constructions thusfar, so Long Haul is a definite purchase. Grindor is an easy pass, though Blackout will do.
bcm77:
Long Haul somehow manages to be less accurate to the concept art and CGI model than a freakin' FAB and Grindor is too small. An easy pass on both.
Human Beastbox:
You know, pretty much every ROTF figure released so far has desperately been in need of more paint apps to bring out their best qualities.
einis:
grindor is an easy pass,but Long Haul is just AWESOME!!!
Fort Max: Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Formas Wave 3 - Megatron & Mixmaster
Wave 4 - Stratosphere |
Just Stratosphere huh, no wonder it slipped my mind.
Cheers Tim.
blueandwhite:
The Grinder/Blackout mold is easily the best TF helecopter ever made but he's just too small for the rest of the line. If there was one figure that I would have loved to see Leader size or bigger, it's Grinder or Blackout.
Bass X0: Quote:
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Man, they didn't even give Grindor a new head sculpt, did they?
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Grindor's whole existence is to be a straight repaint of Blackout without a remolded head. That way they can cheaply produce repaints of Blackout (like the FAB and Legends toy) without having to remold the head for each of them or have any with inaccurate heads (since no FAB or Legends toy has ever had a remolded head and is unlikely to start any time soon).
Bass X0: Quote:
Originally Posted by blueandwhite The Grinder/Blackout mold is easily the best TF helecopter ever made but he's just too small for the rest of the line. |
Pose him next to Legends toys. That will work.
Triple Melter:
I think I like the FAB Long haul better too, but he's just too cool not to buy.
ORIO:
Long Haul will be mine. Oh yes. He will be mine.
Human Beastbox: Quote:
Originally Posted by blueandwhite The Grinder/Blackout mold is easily the best TF helecopter ever made but he's just too small for the rest of the line. If there was one figure that I would have loved to see Leader size or bigger, it's Grinder or Blackout. |
"Can I get an AMEN-ha?!"
Jetstorm:
Well I'm definitely gonna get Long Haul (wonder why he's packaged in robot mode though >_>) and I GUESS I'll get Grindor too (I always buy every character that's in a show/movie xD)
Torque: Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetstorm Well I'm definitely gonna get Long Haul (wonder why he's packaged in robot mode though >_>) and I GUESS I'll get Grindor too (I always buy every character that's in a show/movie xD) |
they also onceshowed a picture of him in alt mode-makes him look too tiny. so getting both if my wallet allows.
PeolesDru:
I think Cybertron Evac is a better helicopter, frankly. The Blackout toy is too fiddly - that whole unplugging the top section, moving it, and replugging it is less than elegant. Long Haul is definitely not beefy enough and his wheels sit too high, but I'm a sucker so I'll be hunting for him anyway.
Also, I don't think wave 4 is JUST Strasosphere - I think it's packed with 3 wave 1&2 toys.
SPLIT LIP:
I wish they had remoulded the front of Grindor's Helicopter mode to look more like the movie.
I'm skipping him only because I'm getting Long Haul.
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Originally Posted by Jetstorm Well I'm definitely gonna get Long Haul (wonder why he's packaged in robot mode though >_>) |
He can't fit in vehicle mode.
shroobmaster:
I'm getting Grindor, love the new color.
Long Haul is a no, his Legends and FAB look better when compared to classes.
Bass X0:
There's nothing wrong with Long Haul though...
emmsnake:
When do these guys come out?
Dran0n:
Long Haul looks awesome
Dran0n: Quote:
Originally Posted by emmsnake When do these guys come out? |
October.
shroobmaster: Quote:
Originally Posted by Bass X0 There's nothing wrong with Long Haul though... |
He's not bad, but it's his bad luck that I like the cheaper versions better.
Motor_Master: Quote:
Originally Posted by PeolesDru I think Cybertron Evac is a better helicopter, frankly. The Blackout toy is too fiddly - that whole unplugging the top section, moving it, and replugging it is less than elegant. Long Haul is definitely not beefy enough and his wheels sit too high, but I'm a sucker so I'll be hunting for him anyway.
Also, I don't think wave 4 is JUST Strasosphere - I think it's packed with 3 wave 1&2 toys. |
Yes Stratosphere is packed with Prime, Starscream and I believe Ironhide.
As for best helicopter mold, that's G1 blades all the way
El Rey:
Well Long Haul is a must buy for me. I already have premium Blackout so picking up Grindor is a real test of my principle of buying all onscreen characters
gnodprime1: Quote:
Originally Posted by Human Beastbox You know, pretty much every ROTF figure released so far has desperately been in need of more paint apps to bring out their best qualities. |
This.
There's so much detail you just don't see because of all the single color plastic they used. Not to mention the use of WRONG colored plastic. (talkin' bout you, Jetfire) Long Haul is no exception. He'll look awesome with a little paint. He's on my radar.
devastator831:
Definitely will be getting Long Haul. I really like the constructicon molds, but as many have stated the colors are lacking. I think I take up painting my figures like others have talked about. (If I ever can find the time)
TIE Bomber:
I really don't like how Hasbro is packaging some toys in robot mode. I hope this isn't a new trend. We have Demolishor & Mixmaster in vehicle mode & now Long Haul in robot mode. They're not going to look good displayed next to each other like that.
Da_Razorsaw: Quote:
Originally Posted by TIE Bomber I really don't like how Hasbro is packaging some toys in robot mode. I hope this isn't a new trend. We have Demolishor & Mixmaster in vehicle mode & now Long Haul in robot mode. They're not going to look good displayed next to each other like that. |
so don't display them in box.
Human Beastbox: Quote:
Originally Posted by gnodprime1 This.There's so much detail you just don't see because of all the single color plastic they used. |
After a few extra metallic paint apps on my Skids deluxe, he looked wayyy better. He was just too...damn...green.
Feralstorm: Quote:
Originally Posted by TIE Bomber I really don't like how Hasbro is packaging some toys in robot mode. I hope this isn't a new trend. We have Demolishor & Mixmaster in vehicle mode & now Long Haul in robot mode. They're not going to look good displayed next to each other like that. |
Probably depends on a couple factors:
- which mode fits better in the standard-size package?
- does the alternate mode look dull or small or "what is that supposed to be?" when seen in package?
Sportimus:
Ah, what the heck, I think I'll pick up Grindor anyway. I like the paint apps on it, and a mini black Scorpy would be fun too.
Long Haul rocks. I don't give a rats arse about the tires being in the wrong angle, he still look bad azz.
Angelwave:
Grindor looks fantastic, those colors really pop on that mold, I cannot wait to get him.
Long Haul, as awkward as this voyager mold looks, also is an instant buy. He'll be my first of the Constructicons. His personality in the video game really sold me to him as well as Grindor's.
Railguard:
They look really cool. I like Grindor a lot, the color scheme is excdellent for him.
PorkChopKB:
I just picked up a voyager longhaul on ebay for 32.00 shipped loose. perfect for me... I am working on a custom g1 colored devastator from the movie made up of the voyager and deluxes.. I will have to wait until the others are released to finalize my plans.