Transformers Movie 2 Rumors: New Decepticons named and Probable Humans

Some of this ideas looks to consist with the previously leaked TF 2 draft script my cousin has !!

However ,we got to be careful !! who knows if this is Bay's disinformation campaign !!

And yet IF SO I'M HAPPY TO KNOW THE CONSTRUCTICON ARE IN !! HOPE THE SOUNDWAVE AND ARCEE ARE IN FOR REAL

Isn't that about how much of the "not gonna be used rough draft" from the first made it into the final product?

Although that TF2 leaked treatment had a LOT of mechs in it... then again, they proved it could make money, so they should have extra $$ for rnd 2, and maybe can afford it - since much of the hard work (i.e., HTH do robots that big MOVE anyway) was done for TF1.

Possibly more rumors.

I'll just wait and see what happens as we get closer to the release date. I don't think we should start jumping to conclusions given there is still over a year left until release, a lot can change. And given the misinformation tactic that Bay said they would use you never know what's true content and what's B.S.

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The minions of Unicron are also returning to NYC for this movie?

The bad thing is that these characters seem so cliche and predictable. Its good to see some characters from the first movie interact with the new ones, I just hope its substantial.

The conspiracy theory plot should have died with the 1st movie(of the first movie's faults, that was one of them). Let me guess Sam's roommate finds out Sam's secret, says there is a breach of trust, almost snitches him out, realizes the Autobots really are here to help, and either dies saving Sam/Autobots or helping them as a dues ex machina some way, somehow. *Insert 180 rule breaking Michael Bay random explosion scene here!*

Everybody seems to keep skipping over the most obvious and simple piece of evidence that proves this is all false information: Sam goes to Princeton

Come on, Sam at Princeton?

It's way to early to believe any of this.

IT's possible that Sam could get into Princeton. As we found out in TF1, his grades were okay in high school, and the government probably hooked the Witwickys up with a big honking check to keep their big mouths shut about the alien infestation, (hence the scene with the parents during the credits,) not to mention the false imprisonment/abuse issue. So, Sam could afford it. Plus, does anyone think that an Autobot couldn't get into Princeton's computer system, and fudge Sam's application?

I just think it'd be more likely that Sam went somewhere closer to home, (ie, the West Coast.) Also, this sets a good time frame for movie 2. Sam was a Junior in High school in TF1, so this movie takes place at least a full year after the events of TF1. This also gives Epps time to "get busy" and make that 4th kid.

Maybe Sam goes to MiT and Bumblebee helps him count cards to earn money....

Guess I'll be Mr. Positive and Mr. Negative.

The postive.

Constructicons so that means Hasbro will have to get off their rear ends and give us new Constructicon toys rather than leaving us to buy the vastly underscaled knock-off toys.

A British solider so that means I can stop with the Team America song.

More of the treatment sounds to be on the this is way we are going instead of the poor Jedi mind tricks of this is not the treatment you are looking for.

The negative.

The Constructicon toys will be in that horrible movie look I just can't stand.

The Constructions will likely be just as bad of jobbers as the Decepticons were in the first film so either IDW or Animated will have to remind me why I liked the guys in the first place.

Sounds like the military is back to stomp all over the Decepticons again, because gods forbid the Autobots should actually save the day like say how Spiderman stops his bad guys instead of letting some non-super powered people take the bad guys down.

Also sounds like more useless human characters for more useless plot line to act as filler because robot time is limited because of too many damn parts rather than a sleak look for the robots.

All of course in shakey gritty cam with a nice helping of what Bay finds to be funny.

Soundwave (with Ravage and Rumble) vs. Blaster (with Eject and Steeljaw) that looks good to see this fight in the big screen.

This could be true, but I honestly think that it sounds like it would be following that treament too closely. If Bay wants to give out falsehoods, then aligning his missinformation with that of the leaked treatment would make fans believe it more. So, it's either a clever missinformation leak, or it seems that treatment lots of us read was pretty much the movie.

As for the constructicons being taken out so quickly, it could be a quick scene like the BB/Barricade fight where he is just dissabled "for the moment" while who the constructicons were attacking could get away. And then they could show up later driving down a highway and drive through the magic sequel portal, like Barricade.

[quote=Liege Prime;2007060]This could be true, but I honestly think that it sounds like it would be following that treament too closely. If Bay wants to give out falsehoods, then aligning his missinformation with that of the leaked treatment would make fans believe it more. So, it's either a clever missinformation leak, or it seems that treatment lots of us read was pretty much the movie. . .

That still remains to be seen on 6/29/2009. I recall Nelson (who's the webmaster over at Bay's website) emphatically stating that the treatment was an official treatment, BUT they weren't going to use it at all. And If I remember correctly, Nelson stated this before Bay said he was going to be faking people out. I could be wrong, though. I bet Bay is laughing his ___ off at how people are jumping all over these "news" reports, as he is the only one who really knows what the real deal is - and maybe Don Murphy and co.

There is no way on this good earth the robots would even come close to looking like that.

They'll end looking like more General Grievous knockoffs.

Seeing how this seems to be lining up with the leaked treatment, I'm going to guess that it's the official movie treatment.

Remember how the TF1 leaked script was "not the shooting script", yet it pretty much followed scene for scene?

Oh, and yay for more humans! That's what a movie about Transformers needs.

Wacky roomate?? Oh man, I can't wait to see his nutty antics which I'm sure will include humor that will be completely irrelevant and pointless in 2 years.

Thats going to be one massive robot. I hope the Autobots get some reinforcments too.

I can't wait to see how they do Devastator!!! Thats going to be freaking awesome!!!!!! I dunno about the human cast though, I mean the title of the movie is Transformers right? It would be kinda hard to transform a human....I guess someone has to be in the film I guess but I'd rather see more bots than people.

Eh, don't know whether to believe it or not. Besides, assuming its true, "Constructicons" in the movie universe could have absolutely no similarity to the G1 Constructicons past being Decepticons that have construction themed alt modes (including different names, different vehicle types, and not actually combining).
It'll be hard for me to get excited by anything like this until I can actually see the new TFs.

So basically he's Hunter O'nion.

No.

NO. NO. NO!!!

They need three things to think about before bringing the Constructicons into the sequel:

1. I do like the name, but the name "Devastator" was in the first film. If they use the name, the Constructicons should name their combined form after the tank-former in his honor. Other than that, no.

2. Bonecrusher is DEAD!!! His head did NOT crawl away, Optimus stabbed him in the chest (thus, the Spark) and his head happened to get cut off the way Prime stabbed him. If they decide to use six construction vehicles, they need to have a back-up name.

3. I can't see the combiners being pulled off anyway. If they have the way, more power to them. I just don't wanna see any "jumping in the air and landing perfectly in place" routines.

Anyways, those are my thoughts. By the way, that's not a bad looking 3D Devastator picture.

I don't see any reason why they would have to use the name Bonecrusher if there are Constructicons in the sequel. They could just as easily come up with all-new names for all of them (however many there are, if any).

Edit: "all-new" as in "new to the Constructicons"

What if he had no name at all in his combined form? Like...
"Oh no the Constructicons combined! Let's run from this MONSTER"
"Yeah I agree that thing sure is a BIG THING"

And because Hasbro used Brawl for the toy the package would say "COMBINE INTO DEVASTATOR"

That's pretty much what I figure is going to happen. I wouldn't expect movie "Devastator" to be anything more than the scary robot monster the constructicons combine into and, thus, not even worth mentioning a name on screen. Of course, Hasbro will name or at least mention the combined form Devastator because of the G1 connection.

Well G4's Attack of the Show carried the story in their news section so that's even more geeks and nerds to be mad at Mr. Bay if it's one of his pranks because we are not good enough to know what's going to be in his movie.

Interesting bit to the Attack of the Show reporting was that they said the Constructicons combine into The Devastator. Wonder if this is going to be little twist with the name to reuse it sort of like there being a difference between Rock and The Rock.

This isn't a bad idea...

FUCKING. HELL. YES.

Well Devastator's name shouldn't be a big deal. They wouldn't have to name him at all in the movie. The actors could just throw out hints as to what his name should be but not named at all. Such as:

"Oh man, that giant robot is Devastating our city!! Such Devastation!! I've never seen so much Devastation in my life. Oh my God, this is such a Devastating moment in all my life. Oh, the huma.....er Devastationity!!!"

That Devastator picture looked so cool!! I hope they make Omega Supreme in the movie

I don't see a problem with Bonecrusher being dead, and not a constructicon. He had the least construction-themed name anyway.

http://www.hollywoodcomets.com/audition/271.html

That's a japanese audition site for hollywood/american based movies. Scroll down a bit and you'll see an audition notice for the CNN reporter in Transformers 2. This pretty much confirms all the casting bios listed in the first post.

What happened to Barricade? He was on the highway and then without warning or explanation he wasn't in the movie. That's just plain stupid.

Bad storytelling skills, bad storytelling skills.

Now now. Its only just a rumor. Its not been officialy stated as being true. We should reserve judgement on any such news until we know for sure.

In fact, we shouldn't really judge it even if the rumor is proven to be true. Because, really, it might not work as a still picture on the internet but with all the extra CGI added and in motion, it'll totally be different. You shouldn't make any comments on anything relating to the movie until AFTER you have just walked out of the movie...

CGI is expensive, and people liked Barricade too much for them to just off him as quickly as it was previously planned.

I really hope this is true, and not just a rumor. I would really like the Constructicons to be in Transformers 2. However, Bonecrusher might be replaced by Gravedigger or someone like that. As for Devastator's name, they might change it to Demolisher, because that sounds threatning, while sticking with the "Construction" theme.

Sounds cool, and would definetly be interesting if true, but if it turns out to be one of Bay's little false info thingys, no big deal. We've already got confirmation that Barricade will be in the movie (hopefully answering some questions from the first one), and that Ironhide and Ratchet will both be returning for the sequel (though how much of them we'll see is impossible to tell at the moment).

Other alternative that comes to mind is the aircraft carrier Bay fancies including at some point. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a big-arse Broadside throwing down with Dev...

Hardly any of them are main characters - these would pretty much be all the new characters who have any lines at all. The only one that's stated as any kind of a main character is Chuck, the '2nd lead'. The CNN reporter's stated as having one scene, I wouldn't be surprised if the other military guys don't have much more than that.

From the little we saw of Miles, do you think he went to university? I have my doubts...

You see, it'd be bad storytelling if Barricade doesn't show on TF2. If he shows, and a good explanation about what happened to him on the freeway is given, then all's good.

If he shows, and the explanation is poor ... then that'd be also bad storytelling.

-airfox

Umm, did anyone notice how most of these characters (especially Devastator and Sam's roommate) were in the script idea leaked last year? The one Bay later said was false and promised to leak false info from that day on?

So much about that...

You honestly think the scriptwriters or Bay care one little bit about such things as continuity? In a movie where HALF of the Decepticons didn't even get lines, where they couldn't get one of the names right (Brawl-Devastator) by the time the movie aired? Where Barricade just magically dissappears, most likely because the writers or Bay just forgot about him? Gah, this movie isn't written by Furman or directed by Zemeckis. They just want to do another summer action-scifi flick. Devastator most likely won't even resemble the old one, the Construticons might not even be separate robots or even have robot modes, they'll only be there to combine to Devastator and then get taken out. (if you read the leaked treatment, you'll be shocked where and how they appear, Bay really wastes a lot of opportunities with this one).

Another stupid thing in the first movie - half of LA saw the big f***ing robots trash their city. Then, the army even shows Megs and Co. dumped into the mariana trench on TV and then a general says "to ensure that no trace remains that this invasion ever happened". Umm, Hello? You just showed people that IT HAPPENED!!!

Any conspiration theory plot after the first movie is a rubbish idea. I mean, hundreds of people saw the TFs fight in LA. How about the guy Megs flicked off himself? (probably the only scene I liked in that fight...)

They should've named Chuck "Chip".

You know what's wrong if they do have Devastator in the next movie ..... He might not be called Devastator.

As for the combining method, who's to say they don't just climb onto each other to merge, kind of like Crippletron from that episode of Family Guy? Maybe they'll form limbs, etc as they merge? And it very well could be misinfo, but to the general movie going public, Bay will look like a major tool for lying. And maybe he'll simply be named Constucticon and that'll be the name instead of the subgroup.

<--- Would rather have Predaking.

That wasn't on TV, it was a briefing, the dumping of the bodies was a background scene. A simple movie tool, not actual footage on tv. They could easily just ignore it and those who didn't see it would think those who did were nuts.

I guess I kinda lost my cool a while back...sorry about that.

On behalf of the toys, if we do get the Constructicons, I wouldn't care if it's Devastator. I actually don't mind if he'll be in the movie anyway (for toys, I want all of them Deluxe size to make one effin' huge robot)

My point I'm trying to make is that I'm getting tired of the name. It's just used too much. My last post here was just the facts to support my views towards the name.

I will laugh till the cows come home if they have "Brawl" as the combined form in the movie.

At the time there was global communications blackout, so only few people witnessed those events.

As for the name of Devastator being a issue I wouldn't worry, maybe Bay will pull a George Lucas and change the name in the possible Blu Ray release to Brawl, so it doesn't clash with the gestalt's.

But in this age when every second person on a street has a mobile phone with a built-in camcorder, don't you think the web would be full of videos taken during the events in LA? Nothing could stop that from happening.

IMHO, conspiration theories were exhausted during the first movie. What the second movie needs is more screen time for the TFs and more robot-robot character interaction. What we definetly DON'T need are more useless humans who don't add to the plot (like the silly codebraker girl and his idiot friend in the first movie).

I would think the EMP pulse sent out by the destruction of the Alspark would have destroyed any video/pic evidence on mobile phones and cameras/camcorders...

Devastater doesnt look to futuristic to me, besides, isnt Brawl devastater?