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Transformers 4 to be Michael Bay's Last & Feature Robot Cast Redesign

Posted on 06-06-2012 at 02:43 PM by Sol Fury under Transformers Movie (Just Movie) (All Transformers Movie News)
m4t73jpd
An interesting snippet from a larger article on Transformers the Ride posted on LATimes' Hero Complex gives a small insight into what lies in store with Transformers 4. Apparently Transformers 4 will feature a redesign of the robots and an entirely new (human?) cast. Michael Bay has also said that he intends for this movie to be his last, to set things up for "the next guy".

Granted, we have heard that before, because in the production of Transformers Dark of the Moon, Michael Bay had stated he intended that to be his last, and even before that, during Revenge of the Fallen Mr Bay had said he intended to take some time out before making the third movie. Neither of these possibilities materialized, so take this claim that Transformers 4 will be his last one with a pinch of salt.

That being said, how does a redesign of the robot cast grab you? Dark of the Moon already featured a move to more "heroic" proportions on Optimus Prime with his new abs - will it be a case of more tweaking of designs familiar to audiences the world over, or perhaps a more dramatic shake-up?

Be sure to check out the full article on LATimes. While it is mostly about Transformers the Ride, it is well worth the read for the information on the reception to the ride as much as it is for the hint at Transformers 4 taking a different direction.
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TylerMirage
Dang, I was just about to post this!

Michael Bay Says Transformers 4 Will be His Last - ComingSoon.net

Also, inb4 a lot of hating, flaming, trolling and "NO!"-compilation Youtube videos.
General Tekno
Well, all the movies since ROTF have been Bay's last.

Then Hasbro/Paramount drive a dump truck of money up to his house and he relents.
VaderPrime1
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Originally Posted by General Tekno View Post
Well, all the movies since ROTF have been Bay's last.

Then Hasbro/Paramount drive a dump truck of money up to his house and he relents.
That's what I was thinking.
Mako Crab
Just like Hideo Kojima.

"Oh Metal Gear Solid 2 is definitely my last!"

10 years later . . .

"I'm happy to annouce Metal Gear Solid 4!"
miscreant
If you listen closely, you may still hear the sound of someone who thinks we're going to do any better...



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Originally Posted by VaderPrime1 View Post
‘Transformers’ taking new shape with Universal ride and fourth film | Hero Complex – movies, comics, fanboy fare – latimes.com

I hope the redesigns get explained. Maybe to keep themselves hidden from the humans so they can be their silent protectors.

'We redesigned Megatron to have a spine again because i get a cut of every toy sold'.
Motor_Master
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Originally Posted by General Tekno View Post
Then Hasbro/Paramount drive a dump truck of money up to his house and he relents.
LOL wouldn't you.
Sso02V
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the fourth film will include some redesign of the robots
Yay, Optimus gets new kneecaps!
miscreant
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Originally Posted by Sso02V View Post
Yay, Optimus gets new kneecaps!
And nipples.
Violator
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Originally Posted by miscreant View Post
And nipples.
No, that's for the next director: Joel Schumacher
Kimmer
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Originally Posted by Mako Crab View Post
Just like Hideo Kojima.

"Oh Metal Gear Solid 2 is definitely my last!"

10 years later . . .

"I'm happy to annouce Metal Gear Solid 4!"
Please don't insult Kojima-san like that.
Exodus
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Originally Posted by General Tekno View Post
Well, all the movies since ROTF have been Bay's last.

Then Hasbro/Paramount drive a dump truck of money up to his house and he relents.
Second that...
Ya I hope the ride isn't packed yet...
Thundershot
As long as the redesigns have an explanation...

I do like that he's going to set it up for the next guy. I wish comic books were like that these days... When a new writer takes over a comic book these days, it usually suffers from SEVERE "new-writer-itis".
TylerMirage
On the topic of redesigns, unless they're extreme redesigns necessitated by the story, do they really need an explanation? These are advanced, alien robotic organisms. Slight changes and upgrades are par for the course, in my opinion. The slight updates in Thor's and Loki's costume between Thor and The Avengers wasn't explained. Nor did it need to be. Time goes on and things change. Are you wearing the exact same clothes or hairstyle that you had 4 years ago? I know I'm not. It's not something that needs to be explained, but if some people want an explanation, it's pretty easy to make one up: Shape-shifting alien robots are "growing" and "maturing", Royal Asgardians have access to more than one change of clothes. 'Nuff said.

EDIT: I mean, obviously the main production-related explanation is to sell more toys and to promote new vehicles. I won't deny that. That is the first and foremost concern.

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Originally Posted by Sso02V View Post
Yay, Optimus gets new kneecaps!
No, I like his current knee-caps! D: Darn you, Bay! You're ruining the franchise again!
eagc7
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Originally Posted by TylerMirage View Post
On the topic of redesigns, unless they're extreme redesigns necessitated by the story, do they really need an explanation? These are advanced, alien robotic organisms. Slight changes and upgrades are par for the course, in my opinion. The slight updates in Thor's and Loki's costume between Thor and The Avengers wasn't explained. Nor did it need to be. Time goes on and things change. Are you wearing the exact same clothes or hairstyle that you had 4 years ago? I know I'm not. It's not something that needs to be explained, but if some people want an explanation, it's pretty easy to make one up: Shape-shifting alien robots are "growing" and "maturing", Royal Asgardians have access to more than one change of clothes. 'Nuff said.
exactly the robots have all been updated in the current films (as they got new vehicle modes, paint jobs and in the procress they get new parts too) Megatron (due to alt mode change), Optimus and Bumblebee all had redesigns in the third film, and we didnt had an explenation
Kaijumaster
Oh Lord...he's gonna try to do Beast Wars, I just know it!
FatalT 71
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Originally Posted by Kaijumaster View Post
Oh Lord...he's gonna try to do Beast Wars, I just know it!


As much as I've joked about it in the past, I don't want Bay going near Optimus Primal. The thought of a raging ape with chainsaw hands as Maximal leader is too frightening to contemplate rationally....
Knightdramon
at the comment about this being his last film.

It's going to be a very entertaining summer flick. But unless they massively change the focus from humans to actual robots, it's going to be a make over of the previous 3 films.
Bahamut Prime
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Originally Posted by Knightdramon View Post
at the comment about this being his last film.

It's going to be a very entertaining summer flick. But unless they massively change the focus from humans to actual robots, it's going to be a make over of the previous 3 films.
I agree - otherwise, we wouldn't call it Transformers, right?
toaster
Yeah and I'm not a toaster.
Secretcode
As long as I have more Bumblebees to buy (in case assortments that aren't complete bullshit. 2 per case at most, guys. Come on.) I'll be happy.
seekerblackout
By redesigns, he means Optimus will get a new gun, two axes and an EIGHT pack, Bumblebee will get new stripes, Sideswipe will have a slightly different spoiler, Ratchet will get a new shade of green, Mirage will get a spoiler and the Wreckers will take any subtle alt mode updates current Nascars have.
Atomatron
2014 right?
Thunderjet
Oh, like I haven't heard this before. *rolls eyes*
(as in b4 TF3)
NCStarscream
It's not my intention to sound rude, but I fail to see how this is in any way news. Bay will say every one of them is his last and the robots will always be getting redesigns. Our first look at a major redesign would constitute news to me, but not someone saying that redesigns will happen.
Omega_Sentinel
"This is my last Transformers movie" = "You'll have to offer me a lot more money for Transformers 5"
Kylehudson14
Oh jeez.

As long as they keep Optimus & Bee Ill be OK. By new designs I have no idea what to expect, but Ill wait & see to make my decisions. Keep the movie aesthetic so its not too confusing
vektsilver
noooooo no no no noooono no

the fan in me is hoping for a more g1 update and maybe revamped story line that doesnt make me nauseous but the considering we could of done that 3 movies ago this is going to be just an even further departure from the transformers we loved and the story we enjoyed.

while DOTM can be watched for all its eye candy it just doesnt make me feel like it as a transformers film. It feels like generic SCI FI films mashed together and ILM CG to the rescue.

Im pretty sure SI FI original movie should be on the poster somewhere.

Sorry for the negativity im just tired oh hoping for something that doesnt kill my favorite characters or makes them pee show their balls or otherwise limp off the battlefield unlike them selves. Never mind the gratitutous way they Murder one another that is even uncommon in any story arc.

Ughh stay positive stay positive. Is it wrong to just want a better movie that is more fan driven like avengers. Does anyone even question why the hulk unrealisitcly grow so big from small guy. I dont need a film to be plausible I want nostalgia and I want a good story and how about a villian with some semblence of a plan other than a mish mash of ideas you hoped would go your way.

ok done ranting
Dinobot Nuva
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Originally Posted by Kimmer View Post
Please don't insult Kojima-san like that.
How is it an insult especially if its true.
Eric
Wait, redesigns? Entirely new cast? Michael Bay's last?

This sounds too good to be true. And given my experience watching the films, it probably is.
daitarn red
maybe optius prime getting more new autobots warriors under his command
Sinnertwin
[X] New Cast
[X] New Designs
[X] New Director after this one

Radical. I'm down.
miscreant
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Originally Posted by seekerblackout View Post
By redesigns, he means Optimus will get a new gun, two axes and an EIGHT pack, Bumblebee will get new stripes, Sideswipe will have a slightly different spoiler, Ratchet will get a new shade of green, Mirage will get a spoiler and the Wreckers will take any subtle alt mode updates current Nascars have.
And maybe as much as TWO Cyberverse toys that look nothing like the chraracter.
Nachtsider
Bay's last. Hah. I'm not holding my breath.

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Originally Posted by Kimmer View Post
Please don't insult Kojima-san like that.
Never understood this logic. He's not going to reward you for defending him; why waste your time?
SPLIT LIP
New cast alone has me interested.
Optimus Prime
Let me save several members here the trouble:

"Bay's last? Yeah right! He LIVES to rape the franchise because he hates true fans! He'll destroy this sacred brand up until his dying breath!"

"New cast? So that must mean a bunch of talentless a-hole 'actors' and some fashion models, amirite? Can't wait to see Andy Dick, Eva Mendez, and Pee Wee Herman star in TF4!"

"Robot redesigns? I guess that means adding more piles of shredded metal garbage to the existing piles of shredded metal garbage, which every Bayformer obviously looks like! Oh and he'll also ruin beloved characters by not making them the same color they were in G1!"

You're welcome.
YoungPrime
Who cares, most of who I love is dead now anyway.

SMH @ changing jerseys in the 9th inning, this is just typical Bay politics.
Rijie78
They need a decent script, deciding on the story should be their priority. ROTF had no script. DOTM wasn't much better. Which was a real shame, as that first film - while hardly a great milestone in screenwriting - hung together well, had a distinct beginning, middle & end, a serviceable McGuffin.. and had enough about it to be both purely entertaining & actually keep a bit of pace & interest with the story. That was why it was a successful summer movie in the first place (I suspect far more than those involved had dared hope), and not the mishmash cash-grab of the two sequels.

Personally I don't care what the designs are, as long as they're not going backwards in time - no interest in seeing things I saw years & years ago.

In any case, as others have noted, we've heard this before about both Bay and the "redesign" - so until something actually turns up to look at it, it's all speculation & hype. The curious part is the idea of Bay doing this effectively as a handover; I'd be surprised if this fourth film wasn't (already) viewed as some species of reboot, in which case the previous director hanging about to pass things on is kind of unusual.

..and full marks to whoever suggested it's just getting it ready for Joel Schumacher
Rijie78
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Originally Posted by Optimus Prime View Post
Let me save several members here the trouble:

"Bay's last? Yeah right! He LIVES to rape the franchise because he hates true fans! He'll destroy this sacred brand up until his dying breath!"

"New cast? So that must mean a bunch of talentless a-hole 'actors' and some fashion models, amirite? Can't wait to see Andy Dick, Eva Mendez, and Pee Wee Herman star in TF4!"

"Robot redesigns? I guess that means adding more piles of shredded metal garbage to the existing piles of shredded metal garbage, which every Bayformer obviously looks like! Oh and he'll also ruin beloved characters by not making them the same color they were in G1!"

You're welcome.
Thread won!
brawl569
I wonder how much they will change Bumblebee so they can just go and make more toys and not make the charaters we want.
Lazerwave
New designed robots huh?

I guess it means either new vehicle modes or new body designs. I'm hoping for new vehicle modes in that case.
kaijuguy19
I really don't believe this will be Bay's last TF film after what he said about DOTM before. If he does however I'll be suprised.

I'm looking forward to seeing these new cast and designs.
Atomatron
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Originally Posted by Optimus Prime View Post
Let me save several members here the trouble:

"Bay's last? Yeah right! He LIVES to rape the franchise because he hates true fans! He'll destroy this sacred brand up until his dying breath!"

"New cast? So that must mean a bunch of talentless a-hole 'actors' and some fashion models, amirite? Can't wait to see Andy Dick, Eva Mendez, and Pee Wee Herman star in TF4!"

"Robot redesigns? I guess that means adding more piles of shredded metal garbage to the existing piles of shredded metal garbage, which every Bayformer obviously looks like! Oh and he'll also ruin beloved characters by not making them the same color they were in G1!"

You're welcome.
damn, worst part is I can Eva Mendez in it for real, to make it more "ethnic"
im gonna cry, please no
General Magnus
Nice. As for the bitching, you all are not getting what you want, well thought shit.
Lazerwave
If it's a new cast I wonder if they will still keep Peter Cullen.
Yobuster
Please please please, let's have new designs, less insect-like please. Some real faces would be nice. I know Transformers are supposed to be alien and all but we seriously need some new designs. The more they keep the designs similar the less i'll be buying the new toys. Yes sure the transformation will likely be different but the fact that in robot mode they look the same........
baggzey23
No g1 brickformers please
Autovolt 127
Oh forget it Bay stop saying you'll be down after this next film.....


....the only way you'll stop is when one of these films bombs.
Eric
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Originally Posted by Optimus Prime View Post
"New cast? So that must mean a bunch of talentless a-hole 'actors' and some fashion models, amirite? Can't wait to see Andy Dick, Eva Mendez, and Pee Wee Herman star in TF4!"
Hey now, Pee Wee Herman would actually be a breath of fresh air at this point in the films. Then again, John Malkovitch was in DOTM, and look how his acting in it turned out.
AnithaPrime
I'm trying not to think of all the ways this could end horribly wrong, gotta focus on the good stuff. As long as Optimus is in it I'm happy, just hope Bay doesn't make him look retarded.

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