Transformers 2 Movie: SR-71 Blackbird News and Chevy Beat Sighted

Dorfsquest, I have to disagree with you. You do know that Animated Soundwave is a Toyota Scion SUV, right? There's a world of difference between a Scion SUV and a Chevy Beat. To get that car to look like the Animated Soundwave Toyota Scion SUV, you'd have to stretch out the front, flatten the front end, dull the edges of the car to give it a boxy look (Scion SUVS look like shoeboxes on wheels, LOL!!!), and add the "tape deck buttons" (i.e., play, rewind, fast forward, stop, and pause) to the front grille.


As far as the spoon is concerned, it's a reference that the ILM animators will replace later, with a digital object in post-production, I bet. Also, from what I read on the call sheets, it seems like whatever Sam has in his hand, it may react much like the key that Sari carries with her in the Transformers Animated cartoon. We'll see come 6-26-9.

Jetfire.

I say even tho the twin autobot ice cream truck are twins,why couldn't they transform
into the front and back half of it instead of left and right sides of the truck,that way
both looks similar but not exact,like fraternal twins are,not identical twins.

As for the SR-71 I truelly believe Bay is gonna have him be Jetfire,and by the end
of the movie Jetfire will change sides when he finds out Megatrons plan,and I think
Jetfire will be destroyed,like a homage to Skyfire in the G1 Cartoon.Anyone else
think so?

Dude, I'm sorry, but unless you work on this film or have proof to back up you point, enough already. This is the second thread I've seen you post that in and you posted it twice in the other thread.

Untill you can show otherwise, all you're doing is trying to force your opinion on everyone here. Now don't get me wrong, you're entitled to your opinion, but if all you're gonna do is post the same damn thing in every thread when someone has a different take on the situation than you, you're only gonna tick them off. We had enough of that crap the last movie.

So, unless you can present you POV as fact, (in which case, I'll publicly state I was wrong) you've voiced your opinion. Let it go.

Well, I know the scion is boxier, thus I said "sort of resembles". Though to be completely honest, if Soundwave is going to be as badass as we are hoping in the movie, I'd prefer his alt mode to look a little more 1. dangerous and 2. bigger.

The percentage chance of that vehicle being Soundwave is about 0.05%

I pretty much doubt they'd put a Toyota Scion in the movie when GM is paying them for product placement. The Chevy Beat might be as close as they can get.

But I wouldn't put money on it. To me it looks more Bumblebee than Soundwave. We shall see.

Jetfire, huh? Wow did that make my day if true!

QFT.

(And he's actually posted the same statement 9 times.)

I didn't look at the past pages but heres a pic:
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au..._beat-copy.jpg
Also, the Camaro's rims look different..O.o.

I hope and pray that the Ice Cream Truck Twins AREN'T Sideswipe and Sunstreaker. Please, Bay, don't change them like that. The only twins I know of (besides Sideswipe and Sunstreaker) are Rack N' Ruin, and Topspin and Twintwist (well, they weren't exactly identical but close enough).

I, too, believe that the SR-71 IS Jetfire (especially after seeing the calls sheets; yes, Bay used code names for the bots during filming TF1, but if 'Jetfire' is a codename, then why isn't Arcee a codename for the pink bikes that were filmed at the steel mill, when it has been confirmed that Arcee's movie alt-mode is a pink bike? Hmmmmmmm. . . . . . ), and I also believe that he'll start off like a Decepticon and maybe switch sides towards the end of the film, and if he ends up in ice, like in the cartoon, it will be similar to how Megatron was trapped in Ice in TF1 for hundreds of years. We'll see.

That's partly true, however it was mentioned that there were two transformer cars on the Bethlehem steel set that were Acura NSXs - one red, and one Black, and there was a picture of them both, as well as an Audi R8 Decepticon that was mentioned in the callsheet.

Now, THAT should have been Bumblebee in the first movie... Not a Camaro. But the colors are plain ugly. I reckon these aren't the colors they will use, though. As for who it is, my guess is... Cliffjumper? Hubcap?

Well knowing Orci it's probably a Micromaster or a Minicon no-one cares about, like Ground Hog or Swindler...

But from what we understand the green is that concept's signature colour scheme, and a bright green car has been photographed on set next to Bumblebee.

I would question your assertion that nobody cares about the Mini-Cons.

I don't think that Blackbird is Jetfire. It's a codename like Brawl for Barricade or Soundwave for Frenzy in the last movie. The Autobots are hunting for a Con according to the description, and the "Jetfire was/is a Con" thing has been already done to death.

I can totally see that Blackbird as Skywarp, though... Though an F-111 would be much better.

where did you see the pic of the nxs's? i cant find them anywhere

I just saw that pic myself, thanks...

Well, maybe due to the success of Animated Hasbro forced Bay to re-design Bumblebee into this? After all, Hasbro needs to sell new toys next year for the movie, they cannot re-package the old BB toys again...

Or it's Goldbug. Nevermind that he's no where near gold...

Sigh... That's NOT what I meant. Heck, as toys, I love them (especially the classics ones) and the Furman comic for Armada made me really like the Destruction team and Over-Run (so much that I bought them although I hate that toyline).

What I mean is, and I hope you agree with me, that most of the Minicons have nada/no personality whatsoever (especially in the cartoon) and certainly, even the ones who have are nowhere near the level of even obscure G1/BW characters...

It annoyed me in the 2007 movie to no amount that when the character cast list was so limited, the producers spent millions of $ to design CGI models and then name them from such non-entities like Blackout or Barricade... instead of, maybe, calling them Vortex or Runabout.

So I'll be really mad if for the second movie, popular guys like Sunstreaker, Shockwave, Blaster, Mirage, Thunderwing will be dropped in favour of the likes of Longarm, Takedown, Roller Force and the like.

I mean, I absolutely LOVE Micromasters, I want to see them in Animated too... but in the big Movie, the popular and well-known bots should take preference. It might be the only chance we have to see Shockwave/Blaster/etc. brought to the big screen.

i'm thinking the blackbird would be soundwave
it just makes sense to me in terms of scale, and all the sound that comes from breaking the sound barrier at mach 3
the rc car i could see ebing the kid appeal character, leaving bomblebee to do some ass kicking
as for the beat, i'm thinking it could be the ice cream truck twins, because the twinformers gimmick may well be embraced

Can't wait to see the bot mode for the Blackbird.

Fine... if it makes you feel better. Just trying to explain a little about how movies are made, because based on the RC truck posts & the Arcee combiner posts, it seems obvious that most here don't understand it. Forgive me for actually having a working knowledge of how these movies are made. It just seems like people are grasping at straws here and working themselves up for things they will not see come to fruition.

In any case, since you're apparently the authority on who can and who cannot voice their opinion, I do feel I've made the point. If it comforts you to think that screen time and character space is going to be devoted to a remote controlled toy truck (which I can't fathom why anyone would be enamored of) then more power to you. But I'm going to hold you to that public apology thing--one of us will be proven right in 364 days.

Hmm....interesting. I wouldn't be suprised if the name 'Wheels' is just a cod name for the car untill/if they release the actual name.

Why do you care so much?

People are just having fun speculating about what may or may not be in the film. If you think that RC car is only a visual reference, then fine, say it once, and come the day of the film's release, you could well get some vindication for your theory.

But you're being a bit harsh on people who disagree with you, IMO.

Dude, I worked in Hollywood for a year AS a Propmaker. And what you say DOES have some merit. BUT with the budget of this film, and the quirky things that were TF's in the last film, (Cell Phone, Pop machine, X-Box ,etc) it's not beyond the scope to see more of the same in this one. It was hinted at that S7 experimented using the Allspark to make things come to life, what if they did it with an RC truck for Recon missions and they developed a working relationship with it. Or It might have been brought to life durring the whole fight scene at the end of the last film and it found a home with S7 after talking with the Autobots.

Point is here that untill we see it on the screen, your opinion is no more right or wrong than mine or anyone else. The point of these boards is to talk about stuff like this. Correcting everyone who has a different take than you is rude and counterproductive to the whole point of a message board.

And FYI, as a propmaker, if they were going to film a small vehicle-like robot around a set, the Prop dept. would be able to make it look exactly like whatever it's suppose to for them to use on set. That cuts back on the number of CGI shot they'd have to make later and allows the Director to actually film the object as he needs it rather than using a proxy and waiting for six months to finish his shot. The cutout for the robot was used because that has to be CGI'd.

Weird. As in it looks tiny but yet i dont know how big it really is. Ill just wait till robot mode pics are leaked.

Some good points there, excellent post. That makes a lot of sense. And I liked some of the 'outside the box' choices of alt modes in the first movie. I often get the impression that if some fans had their way, all transformers would be sports cars and military jets.


Going with the on-set description:
It sounds to me like the robot probably does transform from the RC car. It's obviously a small robot(what else would make a good alt mode for a 2 foot bot). The way it's described, it seems to me that they were going to more trouble than if it had just been a stand-in.

But it's all speculation at this point.

Hey, I could be wrong.

If I am wrong, I will say this: the RC truck will make a hell of a toy, and it better have a button on the remote for transforming.

That would be awesome... I'm sure with Hasbro's expertise, they could come up with something better than the V-Bot.

Oh, hell yeah. Though, to be honest, my nephew has a V-Bot and it's kind of cool in it's own way. Not anything ground breaking transformation wise, but it's got good response time and is fun to screw around with. I could only imagine what Hasbro would do with that kind of concept...

...im thinkin kup,wheelie,bumper or hubcap? and the truck if hes small im thinkin...rumble?

I hope this isn't any bad info that Bay is spreading around cause this looking like a killer movie!!!!

I don't think the Chevy Beat is a Transformer. I think it's a vehicle that Bumblebee scans for his new alt mode, possibly during a chase scene to hide from a much more powerful Decepticon.

If it's NOT Bumblebee, then it's an utterly stupid decision. It looks too much like Animated Bumblebee and would confuse younger fans immensely. Hasbro really need to enforce their own brand recognition better. Starscream better get fixed up a bit too for that matter, and get the same head he's had just about always.

I know that the RC car is controversial, but when I mentioned it to my ten year old brother his eyes lit up, and he said you know who that is?
He thinks its Roller.

Although its a long shot how fricken cool would it be if that rc truck was Roller, I always have had a place in my heart for that little guy!

Why in the world would they change Bumblebee's alternate mode? Talk about making things more complicated for the CG team than it needs to be...

I would think that the majority of younger fans who saw TF1, would recognize Bumblebee again in TF2 in his concept Camaro mode, just as they will Ironhide, Ratchet, Prime, Starscream and Barricade. Kids still own the toys of these characters, as well as the dvd, no reason kids wouldn't recognise Bumblebee.

I think having Bumblebee scan a Chevy Beat is an AWESOME idea by Hasbro, if its true. I have nothing against the Beat at all. Well, I guess since its not out, there is nothing to judge, but I hope GM makes the Beat a quality vehicle.

Think about it, you are going to have the Camaro debuting soon this year, I think. Its upwards of $4 gas, and people are flooding to small cars in droves. This would be the perfect product placement for GM to signify that they too have a small car. Bumblebee's scanning of the Beat is almost a metaphor of American's switch from gas guzzlers to gas sippers. Eventhough, I don't like the whole trans-scanning idea, this is the perfect time to use it.

Supposedly the Beat goes into production (tho unfortunately not in the US but everywhere else) in mid 2009. The new Camaro goes into production in early 2009. So it would be:

1) Paint GM in the light that they care about the environment
2) Promote the Beat
3) Show that they also have fuel saving cars

Not only that, as everyone mentioned, the Beat is uncannily similar to Animated Bumblebee's ALT mode. And it also fits in with Bumblebee's traditional G1 personality of being the smallest Autobot. The Camaro is more fitting of Hot Shot than Bumblebee.

I think its a great idea and hope the highers ups in GM are listening. They'd win over a lot of "greenies", as people around here like to say.

Well, uh, I'll just say that one of our family cars is a hybrid and the other runs on vegetable oil, so...as a greenie, I have to admit I don't like this idea much at all.

They've established who & what bumblebee looks like in both modes. He's easily identifiable to a kid's eye.

I don't see Bumblebee scanning a new alt-mode in the sequel, if nothing else just because it'd be way cheaper to just use the existing model for him, instead of coming up with a new one (same goes with all the other returning cast). That and the Beat appears to be significantly smaller than the Camaro, so if it is a TF, it's not Bumblebee, but a smaller bot (or two even smaller bots if it is a new alt-mode for the ice-cream truck twins).

I wouldn't want Bumblebee's robot mode to change. I think thats obvious. He'd still be the same in robot mode. And he really wouldn't have to be shorter if engineered properly. I did not say its impossible for people to tell who Bumblebee is, it'd just be EASIER. Obviously, categorizing Bumblebee as a small yellow 2 door compact in both franchises would make it simpler.

It just going to be different now that Bumblebee isn't the smallest Autobot. He was always known for that. Now, there is going to be a smaller Autobot who I almost guarantee will take Bumblebee's old personality traits. Its too easy for the writers not to take the David/Goliath angle for a small bot. It almost pushes Bumblebee into the rank of people like Sunstreaker, Sideswipe, Mirage, etc since he is now a high powered sports muscle car.

Interesting. Glad to meet another "greenie". Tho its more than just what you drive but the mindset. The choice of vechicle is only because of the mindset.

From this thread:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showth...=126283&page=3

It seems you drove a Ford truck extended cab with 4WD and later on in the thread you seemed interested in getting a Jeep. I guess you decided to go with something smaller huh? Incidentally, whats the thing that runs on vegetable oil?