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Shia LaBeouf Finds Returning To Transformers 3 Hard

Posted on 04-23-2010 at 09:43 AM by SilverOptimus under Transformers Movie (Just Movie) (All Transformers Movie News)
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Femalefirst.co.uk recently had a chat with the "Transformers" star Shia LaBeouf a.k.a Sam Witwicky.

Shia had this to say...
ďMy mind battles with me all the time. My mind hates the fact that Iím going back to Transformers 3, but the kid in me loves it. The actor in me, who is looking to challenge himself, isnít going to get it on in Transformers and I know that.

But that doesnít mean that Iím any less dedicated to that movie being perfect. I wasnít happy with the second movie and unless the third one is better than both, then we failed.Ē


Will the future Transformers live action movies be "Sam-less"? Tell your opinion by hitting the Discuss Button.
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Lumpy
nice... hopefully it really is better... and then after 3, a new director should come in and keep the story going...
einis
I hope the 3rd will be good...It would better be
Soundwave_FSD
Don't kid yourself Shia, you're gonna come back. The pay is too good.
Lumpy
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Originally Posted by Soundwave_FSD View Post
Don't kid yourself Shia, you're gonna come back. The pay is too good.
he's not saying he's not coming back... but most actors take rolls to challenge themselves into doing something new, but being cast in something that is bound to have multiple continuations leads you to feeling stale sometimes, because its the same thing over and over again... same character you've got to be every other year... that gets boring... he'll be back for at least a 3rd one... because the big check from here allows him to do smaller things later... just look at Elijah Wood... he did the LOTR movies, and now he can focus on just doing what he wants because he's got more then enough money, so he takes only roles he really wants to take now...
TRANS+CRAZY
I sure hope TF3 will be better.

Can't say that I don't blame Shia for finding it hard to get back into the swing of things where the TF films are concerned.
Transquito
Well, a Transformers 4 without any human kiddo would be.. refreshing I suppose.

If he goes, please take Megan Fox with you too..
Please..
TRANS+CRAZY
Who's says that Michael Bay's going to do a 4th TF movie? I thought he's only going to do 3 and that's that.
Ace Convoy
Sorry Shia but I believe that you're legally contracted to do at least 3 out of the 5 rumored films.
D-Unit
I'm glad that he's taking it seriously and wants to make the thrid one good, but he kinda comes off as a smug douche. Just do the movie man, you know it'll make a ton of money, and more people are going to see your work than doing some "artsy" "serious" film. Whatever, just make the movie already.
blackout501st
well i cant say i blame him at all. doing a trilogy of films where you play the same character dose kind of give the feeling that your getting stale. but, its just like what lumpy said with elijah wood. as soon as he is done with these 3 films, all of the money he will have gotten from them will allow him to do just about anything he wants. and im glad he wants to make TF3 the best. hope it is!
underwear-ninja
So he needs to find another character that allows him to run around and have panic attacks, basically.
SPLIT LIP
I've heard the same thing from other actors. Playing the same part can get stale for those who seek to challenge themselves, or look into other roles.

Nontheless, I'm sure he'll do good, and he seems to like being on Transformers, but he also wants to do something else.


EDIT: Or exactly what Lumpy said. :/
bradforj
The 2nd movie was crap, the robots were nothing more than props. I don't go to a Transformer movies to watch the humans, you know what I mean? We need more characterization of the Transformers themselves!
alex_kingdom
Unless the future of Transformers movies are bay-less I dont think Shia is ever going to get the challenge he craves from these movies. Still I'm sure he knew this when he signed on so he really has no one else to blame but himself.
Nutcrusher
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Originally Posted by bradforj View Post
The 2nd movie was crap, the robots were nothing more than props. I don't go to a Transformer movies to watch the humans, you know what I mean? We need more characterization of the Transformers themselves!
I know this is impossible for a mainstream movie, but ideally for us, they should have a Transformer as the main character, not a human. Then you'd get what you want.
tcinternet
If he bails out, then perhaps the 4th film can feature Sam's bitter greasemonkey cousin Buster? He's been all bummed out because his rich, pansy cousin Sam gets to spend all of his time with transforming cars while he toils away in Detroit.

Mr. Bay, I'm available.
Deceptigtar
hey shia, ill do it for you for half the amount youre getting paid!

ive been practicing my no, no, no, no, no!
the goth rat
it may be just me but i say kill him off and just have the bots, have Megatron kill Sam and make it a reason for the bots to have a REAL!!!!!!! fight
Barricade_Rules
Sam and Mikalea will have a kid named Daniel. Daniel will go off to Cybertron and after taking on Megatron and blowing him up because he kills Optimus, next thing we know this smartass HotRod becomes leader even though Bumblebee was more qualified and the two of them get sucked into a spacebridge to a world called Eternia where he'll meet a crazed robotic scientist named The Quintesson who created an evil skeletal robot named Skeletor who is bent on destroying Eternia with the power of a Ram-skull-shaped staff that has a fragment of the All Spark lodged in it. So Bumblebee scans a local lifeform to fit into this scifi-ish fantasy land and becomes a off-greenish feline and renames himself Cheetor and then Daniel and Cheetor face numerous odds until Daniel is stabbed with Skeletor's allspark staff and turns him into a cyborg like behemoth who shouts I HAAAVE THE POWER!!! and then o/` 'you got the touch' o/` starts playing and Daniel/He-Man (though he's never called that in the movie like Scalpel) destroys Skeletor and saves Eternia, that is until the carcass of Megatron arrives on Cybertron and the tratiorous Starscream opts to shove him into the space bridge instead of trying to repair him and The Quintesson finds the dead Megatron and the defeated Skeletor and has the brilliant idea to combine the two of them thus creating GALVATRON for movie 5, and THAT'S when things get a little weird.
alex_kingdom
Nice synopsis but I dont think it has enough lady lumps for Bay's liking
Eric
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So he needs to find another character that allows him to run around and have panic attacks, basically.
Pretty much. They did that with Mikaela in the first movie, and Leo Shitz in the second movie.

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Originally Posted by bradforj View Post
The 2nd movie was crap, the robots were nothing more than props. I don't go to a Transformer movies to watch the humans, you know what I mean? We need more characterization of the Transformers themselves!
I feel your pain. Unfortunately, as long as Michael Bay is in the director's chair, what he says...goes, much to us movie haters' chagrins.

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Originally Posted by alex_kingdom View Post
Unless the future of Transformers movies are bay-less I dont think Shia is ever going to get the challenge he craves from these movies. Still I'm sure he knew this when he signed on so he really has no one else to blame but himself.
Had I been Shia (and thankfully I'm not), I would have just told the guys who gave me the contract to eff off. But I can't really blame the guy. He knew what he was getting into, but hey, it'd pay off in the end.

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Originally Posted by Nutcrusher View Post
I know this is impossible for a mainstream movie, but ideally for us, they should have a Transformer as the main character, not a human. Then you'd get what you want.
True. The title of both movies were "TRANSFORMERS" for a good reason, not "Dawson's Creek guest-starring the Transformers" or "Feature-Length Commercial for the Army, General Motors, Burger King, and Mountain Dew."

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Originally Posted by tcinternet View Post
If he bails out, then perhaps the 4th film can feature Sam's bitter greasemonkey cousin Buster? He's been all bummed out because his rich, pansy cousin Sam gets to spend all of his time with transforming cars while he toils away in Detroit.

Mr. Bay, I'm available.
Now that could work.
Lucs
This is why I still like Shia. He WANTS to be a good actor not just make money. Sure everyone wants to make a ton of money so they be secure but life is about challenges.

I much prefer watching him in movies with good plots.

I also really hope TF3 is the end of this era. Either reboot the franchise, again, like they always do or take out the crap like Bay and the horrible acting
Ash from Carolina
We know he's back for three because he has the contract. Although it's sounding a bit like the only reason he's back for part three is because of the contract.

Honestly I can't blame the guy for wanting to move on to something else so he will get opportunities to improve as an actor. Lots of actors have moved on to other films after working with Bay because while Bay might get a big summer crowd for his films they sure aren't known for the great acting.

Just my gut feeling but I just can't shake the feeling that part 3 is going to be bad. But at least if Shia LaBeouf doesn't want to do more Transformers films that will give the studio the excuse to start over with a new production team since the franchise will not have it's star any more. I know it's a bit mean to hope something will be bad, but I kind of hope it will be another bad film so the franchise can move on to something different and maybe better.
Rotorstorm
the only way the film is going to be any good is if the script is and the director doesn't see explosions as the only thing that makes a good movie.
Anodythe
Sam leaving...That would be fine with me. I agree with Storm as well. Give us a coherent story with the bots.
AutobotAssassin
you know what, he knew what he was getting into when he signed for the first one. so Shia, quit whinning already. Second, I wouldn't mind not seeing him in the movie. I would rather see cybertron wars than corny family friendly jokes. For that matter, give us daniel if you must have a human connection, or just the N.E.S.T. crew. either way, Shia doesn't make or break the movie for me. that's just my 2 cents though.
Lumpy
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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP View Post
I've heard the same thing from other actors. Playing the same part can get stale for those who seek to challenge themselves, or look into other roles.

Nontheless, I'm sure he'll do good, and he seems to like being on Transformers, but he also wants to do something else.

EDIT: Or exactly what Lumpy said. :/
great minds think alike i guess...

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Originally Posted by Lucs View Post
This is why I still like Shia. He WANTS to be a good actor not just make money. Sure everyone wants to make a ton of money so they be secure but life is about challenges.

I much prefer watching him in movies with good plots.

I also really hope TF3 is the end of this era. Either reboot the franchise, again, like they always do or take out the crap like Bay and the horrible acting
agreed... he doesn't want to just be a money grubbing asstard... he's actually trying to do some cool stuff... and he's a pretty decent actor when he's got a good story and director... i'm kinda excited to see this new Wall Street movie...
Pauly T
I think it's good that Shia finally wants to start to challenge himself as an actor, especially since every role he's ever played has been pretty much the same . Good for him.

What worries me more for TF3 is that everybody involved with ROTF seems to have publicly acknowledged that it was bad... except Michael Bay.
Eric
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What worries me more for TF3 is that everybody involved with ROTF seems to have publicly acknowledged that it was bad... except Michael Bay.
Well yeah, he's Michael Bay. The only thing he gives a shit about is blowing stuff up.
AMG
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ďBut that doesnít mean that Iím any less dedicated to that movie being perfect. I wasnít happy with the second movie and unless the third one is better than both, then we failed.Ē
It sounds like he's losing faith in the movie franchise. With him out right admitting that he hated the 2nd film, I think his enthusiasm for the project has taken a hit. No doubt he'll soldier on and do his best in the third movie, but I think deep down he'd rather be doing something else.
Pauly T
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Well yeah, he's Michael Bay. The only thing he gives a shit about is blowing stuff up.
Which means, most likely, TF3 will =
jamjam101
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Well yeah, he's Michael Bay. The only thing he gives a shit about is blowing stuff up.
thats not true....he cares about the trees that he's already blown up.

and the majority of the people we know didnt like ROTF we found out through forums. what about the little kids aged 5-13 maybe that don't come on the forums and comment...majority of them who i've personally talked to liked it

anyone on these forums a Eminem fan? remember when EM's career peeked in 2002 with 'The Eminem Show', the hype was off the hook for 2004's "Encore" but it failed reception wise...all his fans thought it was his worst album, and his comeback "Relapse" in 2009 was almost as good as "The Eminem Show" and supposedly this years "Recovery" will be his best .... same thing with this whole TF franchise...they seriously need to make up for their failness in TF3
Liege Prime
I understand his point of view, but if this is such an easy and unchallenging role, then he better do great. At least it isn't like him 4 years ago, where every other word would have been a swear.
Solrac333
"The actor in me, who is looking to challenge himself"

Like Dumb and Dumberer?
Ikkstakk
@Barricade_Rules: Your movie treatment is, frankly, awesome.

@Lumpy & similar voices of reason in this thread: Thank you. Acting is a job, just like any other job. You get up early, you go to work, you do stuff you don't necessarily want to do, you eat lunch, you do more stuff you don't necessarily want to do, and you go home late. Differences between your job and Shia's job:

Downsides:
1. Shia works even when he's not "at work": memorizing lines, training, etc.
2. Paparazzi don't follow you around poking into your private life.
3. You probably have never had to redo something at your work because a teamster burped or a plane flew over.
4. Shia is contractually obligated to make "appearances," blather on about his job to interviewers trying and failing to look interested, and be nice to people he doesn't know. You ever been quizzed about your work at a family reunion or somesuch? Truly, after the fifth time repeating the same stuff to somebody who isn't actually interested and doesn't understand anyway, you just want to hand out pamphlets saying "THIS IS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING."
Upsides:
1. Your co-worker likely looks nothing like Megan Fox. And if you try to kiss her: lawsuit. And pink slip.
2. Shia earned more money yesterday than you did all year.
3. Those people he's required to be nice to? Yeah, a good number of them look like Megan Fox.

Rant over.
kEVINUS prime
Crying all the way to the friggin bank...poor baby...
madman1366
I'm thinking any future movies beyond this one will be a total reboot.

These days it doesn't seem to be all that big of a deal to reboot a film franchise. So long as they make money, they can pretty much do what they want.
teruo kaiba
I think it's great that he wants to improve his acting and I give him credit for saying what he actually thinks of the second film. Can't wait for the new Wall Street movie, the first one is probably my all time favorite movie so I'm hoping the new one can rank high up on my list as well.
Tman978
Where's the shut up button?
optimus_tractor
Monsieur LaBeouff is obviously a hater. How dare he insult such an obvious masterpiece.
StayingInTheBox
As a fan of the movieverse, I pray this is the last installment for at least a decade. I think TF3 is going to be a great, rebounding movie from the shitshow that was ROTF, but they need to end on a high note and call it good.
Red Frenzy
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Crying all the way to the friggin bank...poor baby...
Agreed. This kid is such a whiny B***h. Which is just one more reason for me to dislike him. He wants something that will challenge him? Like what, a character that rambles on more incoherently, or maybe a role where the majority of the lines are "Yesyesyesyes" opposed to "Nonononono".

If he finds the work difficult or Bay to be too much of a hard-ass then he should have never signed up for 3 movies, much less taken the role. Bottom line, he's just not a good actor. Simply because of his cringe worthy improv which is maybe 70% of his acting and the fact that everyone of his performances are virtually the same character, only with a different name. And he's complaining about variety?

TF3 will be good because of the robots, their war, and their story, not because of him. And if he wants to be done with the series after 3 then good riddance. Tf's have survived for 25+ years without him, so I don't think the movie franchise will die just because he wont be part of it anymore.
TFfan08
TF3 will be Sam-hardcore! not Sam-less
Ikkstakk
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Originally Posted by StayingInTheBox View Post
As a fan of the movieverse, I pray this is the last installment for at least a decade. I think TF3 is going to be a great, rebounding movie from the shitshow that was ROTF, but they need to end on a high note and call it good.
Hollywood is calling, they've never heard this phrase and would like you to explain it.
VAwitch
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Well, a Transformers 4 without any human kiddo would be.. refreshing I suppose.

If he goes, please take Megan Fox with you too..
Please..
Amen. While I'm not a Fox-hater, I wouldn't miss her much (unless an even more vapid female was cast).

While I think Shia's doing good in TF - please don't take Josh or Tyrese w/ ya.

And agree w/ early comment that he'll come back for a while for the check. If he's smart (and so far, auto-accident not withstanding), and invests the big check for TF - he'll have the money-cushion to branch into what he wants to do that DOES test his skills.
VAwitch
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Originally Posted by Liege Prime View Post
I understand his point of view, but if this is such an easy and unchallenging role, then he better do great. At least it isn't like him 4 years ago, where every other word would have been a swear.
Too true. Gods - I cringed anytime I saw he was getting interviewed for *anything* other than on the red-carpet type of events. Sounds like he got introduced to a clue-by-four that the great actor(esse)s don't swear like a sailor, at least during interviews.

Even Sammy LJ doesn't usually drop as many Fbombs outside of his films as Shia did early on... except as a tongue in cheek thing. And he's been in the biz long enough I'll give him a bit of leeway, not a relative noob.
G1Wheeljack
Understandable that he want a better acting challenge, but for now he'll just have to roll with the punches.
Ash from Carolina
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Originally Posted by jamjam101 View Post
thats not true....he cares about the trees that he's already blown up.

and the majority of the people we know didnt like ROTF we found out through forums. what about the little kids aged 5-13 maybe that don't come on the forums and comment...majority of them who i've personally talked to liked it

anyone on these forums a Eminem fan? remember when EM's career peeked in 2002 with 'The Eminem Show', the hype was off the hook for 2004's "Encore" but it failed reception wise...all his fans thought it was his worst album, and his comeback "Relapse" in 2009 was almost as good as "The Eminem Show" and supposedly this years "Recovery" will be his best .... same thing with this whole TF franchise...they seriously need to make up for their failness in TF3
I don't know I think they could phone in a fail and everyone will still be in fairly good shape.

Micheal Bay could always direct some other film instead of Transformers 4. It's not like he hasn't recovered before from either bad reviews or a lower than expected box office before with Pearl Harbor and The Island.

ILM has tons of work coming in every year so people aren't going to stop going to ILM if their effect appear in a bad movie.

Shia has been taking other roles so he could move on to other films after the Transformers franchise. Not so sure about Fox though since she hasn't exactly been hitting on box office gold outside of Transformers.

Peter Cullen sure wouldn't have a problem finding more voice work.

Paramount Pictures has other films it could fall back on if a third Transformers doesn't produce the box office they hoped for.

Hasbro is always reinventing the Transformers brand so it's not like the future of Transformers is only riding on the film franchise.

Even as fans we know that no story line runs forever so just like we move on to new cartoons somewhere down the road we'd move on to a new film series.

Pretty much everyone has made money already or they have future jobs waiting so there isn't all that much on the line that they "must" make a good third film.
Digilaut
Wow..way to go, guys! Let's all jump onto the I hate Shia LaBeouf bandwagon because..yeah, because what?

All he's saying is: he likes the movies, he thought the 2nd one wasn't too good and they collectively have to do better for 3, and that as an actor, the part in Transformers isn't really fulfilling anymore as in: the role does not allow him to truly show his range - but he will do his best to deliver.
In short: a pretty reasonable answer from somebody whose JOB is acting.

And what happens? There's these nice people on the internet telling him he's a whiner and 'that's what he signed up for'. There's no place where's he's saying he wants to quit, or that he hates doing what he does. Really easy to vent your frustration or dislike on somebody who is genuinely trying. Gets the same flack Hasbro gets when you poor babies don't get your Wheeljack or leader Blackout toy. Jesus fucking christ, you guys are pathetic. I'M SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW!



anyway..I'm hoping TF3 will redeem the movie franchise. TF1 is still awesome in my book, despite its flaws.

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