Screen Actors Guild Strike Could Delay Transformers Sequel

http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2008/05/...-of-directors/

My god...what else do these people want? What is so bad that they have to strike for? Let there asses work in a factory for a while or be a waiter to show them some humility. They are all pampered and like most athletes very overpaid. They should be blessed to make what they make and do what they do. These strikes are getting old.

I don't like to point the finger, and I can understand your frustration with wanting your favourite movies and television shows to continue but, your rant is a little uninformed. This encompasses all actors not just the very top. Alot of people work very hard to get where they are going and often times have to sell mobile phones (or other such jobs) in between contracts. With they way the new media is going it is only right that actors get what is rightfully theirs... believe me being any kind of performer is not an easy job it has very little stability, often times you have to give up a normal family life because of travel and such. All I'm saying is it's not all glamour, lights and money.

Okay..well I can understanding the little guy getting his dues but I think its not fair for the big names to be benefitting even more off of this. Just look when they do interviews it wont be the little guys speaking their peace it will be the Pitts,clooneys,etc. If all are tied together then maybe they should somehow seperate the big guns from the small ones. Though I guess if they did that then they would get virtually no support without a famous face. My point is very clear...the "hollywood" actors are overpaid and will continue to be overpaid. Im not knocking the little guys, I can understand what they go through, but the main box office guys dont have a thing to worry about.

This is beyond ridiculous.

That's fine, so long as it's the little actors, but you know top names are getting invloved in this too. Heaven forbid they get a life of Semi Luxury. You're right. They don't see their family and friends for the couple of weeks or months during the shoot, but then they have it made for the rest of the year. Honestly, I really can't agree that these people are suffering. I understood the Writers a hellovaot more than this. They are just taking the Me-too approach. I need to rally an Editor's Strike.

nononononono no NOOOOOOOOOOO......


I mean come on...The 'A' listers are makin it hand over fist.....20 million a picture and then some......


Let'em do some manual labor and see the attitude change.

Actually, I have a solution.... how about we make Transformers 2 just about the robots. I'm sure the voice actors will still play.

The "A-Listers" are going on strike in support for the 'working' actors. People who make their living acting in commercials and as extras and don't make much more than the average middle class Joe Schmoe.

Oh please give me a break. A strike again?!! Are you telling me they didn't get this whole thing worked out the first time?!!! Now thats just crap!!! Either get it done right or just get back to work!!!!!

Don't you mean the FILM ACTORS GUILD (FAG)? [/team america reference]

Back when they had the writer's strike, wasn't it pretty much set that the deal for writers was carrying over to actors? to hopefully avoid this same fiasco?

Oh no! What ever will I do without any new movies?! Maybe I'd have to go and do something productive?

I hate it when people freak out about this stuff.

A lot of viewers didn't return to TV after the first strike. I would be surprised if the actors let the contract expire without a deal.

The problem here isn't SAG. It's the studios. They managed to screw the writers and directors (IMO) and now they're trying to screw SAG. The studios walked away from the bargaining table again with SAG just as they did with WGA. And it's all because they're trying to avoid paying actors for stuff they put online.

As for those complaining about factory / customer service work - if you feel that your situation is unfair, you can try to get a union into your workplace too. It's your legal right to do so in most countries.

They have a Writer's Guild.. Now they have a Stage Actors Guild? What about FAG (Famous Actors Guild)? How many more of these lame guilds are there?

I can't wait till this is over, then the "Visual Artists Guild" can go on strike, too!

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Are you fucking kidding me? Another fucking strike?!

I'm not your buddy, guy!

That was awsome!

People can make fun of these guilds all they want, but they keep the greedy bastards at the studios in check when it comes to the smaller writers, performers, etc. Allowing the no-name members to earn livable wages. Sure we all know that people like Tom Cruise earn $20 million+, but what about the extras, or struggling new comers earning maybe a few hundred to a few thousand dollars per movie trying to earn a living?

And as a former member of the Philadelphia chapter of the Graphic Artists Guild, I can say without hesitation that these guilds are useful and needed.

The last time was writers this is the actors. Completly diffrent group.

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Yep, I'm one of them....I got pretty used to watching less TV and haven't felt the urge or need to go back. I'm down to less then 4 hours total per week (just American Dad, Family Guy, Simpsons, House, & Criminal Minds)
That will bump up when football season starts...

The top 1% who earn in the millions sure as hell aren't going out of their way to help the other 99% who earn next to nothing for their roles in the film industry. I say let them strike and knock this arrogant industry down a few more pegs.

Guild is just another fancy name for Union. Most people would never question when a Union goes on strike.

It isn't always about the actors trying to get more money. Studios will look for any loophole in a contract to take advantage of actors just so they get a higher profit margin, especially when it comes to background actors (extras). I once worked 13 hours on a set as background and made only $75 for the whole night, and this was not that long ago. Sometimes these loopholes aren't found until after a previous contract has been made, which is why when the contract is due for a renewal, a strike is brought up to fix these problems.

A strike orchestrated by Mike Bay to psyche out the TF fans!

I have no problem with the guilds, but there are a lot of problems with the system. Actors need to get paid but at the same time they don't always earn it. They get paid a lot for what they do, but they aren't always "doing". I think that's the major problem. It isn't like a steady 9-5 job. Anyways, I think Hollywood is in over its head. Everyone wants to live the expensive lifestyle, but actors that aren't top tier can't afford that and I'm afraid that's really what they are going for in Hollywood.

...Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?

Oh, Jesus Christ, why don't we just tell these assholes to just shut their fucking mouths and deal! They're better off than 99% of the entire FUCKING world, they don't need more money! What, do they need another private jet to fly them across their fucking lawn? Or do they need another set of spinning rims for their Hummers so they can drive to their mailboxes, using up fifty fucking gallons of gas?

You know what? Let's just slash their fucking salaries to the average person's and see how many stay.

Huh?

I thought the Strike was over? Now its the Actors?

Wow, I think I need to start my old 'Do you actually read threads before posting in them?' thread.

Why do people keep turning up stating the wrong assumptions about who's doing the striking and why they're doing it?

I support the actors just as I did the writers, a better deal is deserved to ensure that the studios don;t get to just screw over everyone they want...

I have an idea. I got it from the latest episode of TF:Animated.... Ratchet should help them deal.

hellz yah! in fact, lets go build i giant robot to do the job! no seriously!

NEGOTIATOR PRIME ^_^

Well, I suppose my reaction should be "oh's no's, what is we going to do without TF2?"

And

"I sure hope the little guy gets his due".

Ya know what?
Let them strike. Life will go on. Let the Hollywood self-absorbed strike. I actually would like to see the industry self implode a little bit. Make them all realize what they really have.

Here here!
And for those who say "they can work in a factory for a while"- I agree.

Yeah, you're right, it's not like a 9 to 5 job. It's actually more like a nine AM to 3 the next morning job in a lot of cases. 18-20 hour days is nothing on a movie set. Anybody who thinks acting is an easy job needs to actually spend time being an actor. LONG days, and grueling schedules... and all we think they do is show up in nice suits and say a few lines. Ha. SAG is the only thing that has made acting a viable career option these days. If you knew the half of what the studios USED to do to actors...it was criminal, let's just leave it at that. And good for the actors for standing up for their rights. A friend of mine was one of the child actors in "A Christmas Story" and even though he has one of the most famous scenes (tongue stuck to a pole) in all of Christmas lore, he doesn't get a dime from the studios for what that movie does now. The dirty little secret is that the studios are trying to shut out everyone else from profiteering from "new media" such as online distribution and services like iTunes. (Which makes their screaming about piracy and how much bitTorrent is hurting them all the more laughable and hypocritical.) The actors are doing just as the screenwriters did: demanding their piece of the pie, which is only fair since they work just as hard as anybody to make it.

And yes, everyone wants to complain, but these people do need money to pay their living from film to film, and not everybody commands as high a salary as Brad Pitt or Jim Carrey. And the reason they're on the front lines is because they know that nobody would listen to Joe Dayplayer who had a cameo on Law & Order or some "that guy" actor whose face you know but whose name you don't.

The only thing I hate about a possible strike is that it will drive more nails into the coffin of "24."

Otherwise, go actors!

My point was not the hours per day, it was consistancy of work. Yes, you may work an 18 hour day, but in two months you may not have work at all. It isn't reliable for a steady income, that's all I meant.

Which is why actors need to be paid fairly, including new media profits. Sadly, as I travel in such circles, I know all too well how hard it is to be a successful actor. It takes WORK like most people never imagine.

You have got to be fucking kidding me!

As the actors don´t make enough money already.

SOME actors. In fact, not even most. I know we all have these images of these glitzy Hollywood glam-bombs driving around in Bentleys, but the fact is that most of the actors working today barely have enough money to buy a decent compact car.

In just a few years, most media, including TV and movies, will be delivered via these "new media" outlets... the actors are just making sure their piece of the pie is secure.

So calm down, otherwise you'll look like a fucking idiot.

OK. I got the point.

Eh, let 'em strike. It can't hurt anything anyways. The writers guild strike didn't. Also, while I disagree with the principle of unions/guilds in general... I agree with Joe Moore... they are needed in some cases.

On a side note... a lot of people are screaming about these guys getting paid too much money and the fact is that most actors don't see as much money as you think. Not everyone makes as much as the Clooney, Carrey, Snipes, ect., but as Velcrohead said... these guys have to take the front line in this because no one will listen to the little guy (like the guy who played Dr. Hammon in Jurassic Park... everyone knows his face, but maybe not his name... how much media coverage would he get at the head of a strike?). However, I must say that I seriously doubt guys like Carrey and Clooney are standing up for the little guy out of the kindness of their hearts... they're in it for the money and the little actors interests just happen to coincide with their's.

Also, don't any of you who are bitching and moaning think it's wrong that these greedy as Hollywood studios are attempting to keep everyone else in the Hollywood movie industry from profiting on stuff like iTunes, ect. just wrong? Why shouldn't an actor get paid royalties for their work? Same as the writers they deserve their fair share.

We knew this was coming during the previous strike. We were lucky as it was they did settle the writer's strike.

I thought the idea was to use that as the template though? Or are they dicking the actors around again on net media? That's just lame. Wish they would just give the actors what they deserve, and stop hogging it for CEOs. Seriously, some of these network CEO's have outright banked on net residuals, screwing all actors great and small into getting 0, yes 0. Now for big names that can be whatever, but for smaller names, they need that. And yes, they need the hollywood glamor big names to get people to pay attention. If joe schmoe came on tv, the guy you saw in maybe 5 commercials, and plays school kid, or college extra etc in movies, or what not, do you think anyone would even care? Do you think people would even pay attention? They'd be all, who is this schmuck. While yes big names are paid in droves sometimes, they also have the appeal to make people listen, even though their paychecks may not be changed at all. Those actors are paid because of their renown, and being known in the public, if this goes to strike, it wouldn't work without them.

I'm just hoping they learned from the previous strike, and don't drag this out, just compromise and stop dicking the actors around like they did the writers. Cause seriously this is PURE BS on the studios' parts. Seriously, weren't they supposed to use the DGA and WGA contracts as templates? There wasn't supposed to be any issues at all if they did that.

I don't really care. I just want to see the Dark Knight. Damn it looks so fucking awesome.

Preach it!

i might understand where these guilds are coming from, but i still don't have to like it

all i want is transformery goodness, is that too much to ask?

Exactly.

We were? Why? It's not as if our lives depend on these clowns.

Which is what they voluntarily signed up for. If they don't like it...

Ya really

Strike or not the sequel needs to be pushed back to 2010. Casting isn't finished yet, plus filming, plus all of the postproduction stuff (which is the main thing for this movie) all done in a year?

For quality sake, it needs to be pushed back.

Oh fuck, whatever will I do without a couple more worthwhile movie's over a few months? Watch the DVD's of classics I haven't watched yet? Catch up on my reading? Accept the little guy actors getting their due is more important than even TF2?