Roberto Orci - Soundwave will not be a Pick Up In Transformers Revenge of the Fallen

Who really knows, perhaps the loyal Decepticon is some new character. I'm really hopeing the Fallen is not part of the movie. It would kind of suck if some new character comes in and over shadows the Autobot Decepticon war..... best stick to basics.

Honestly I'm taking ROTF on faith based on the fact I loved the first movie.

He'd be almost the size of G1 Metroplex or maybe Fort Max if he were the space station, so I can't see that working.

Hehe. I wasn't being serious. Just saying that it'd be awesome.

Furman, Ryall and Mowry confirmed in two seperate interviews that IDW had the script at that the titular Fallen in the title of the movie was based upon the Fallen from The War Within, and that he would be the villian.

Both of these interviews were later censored after (and this is my fault) Bay became aware of them and all references to the Fallen and IDW having the script were removed.

If you think bakc to when the 3 cam am spyders were seen on a trailer with Ironhide there was a rumer that they were arcee. Which was half true, she is 3 bikes. Same thing with sound wave, being some kind of truck, there must have been a pick up on set or close to something to do with soundwave making it half true. As for the fallen i agree he is in the movie but answers we will get are possibly or mayber or who knows as to not incur the wrath of Mr Bay.

Interesting comments from Orci. It'd be nice to think at least some of the spoiler info was actually a bit off, just because I like the idea of seeing a film and not knowing every last detail of it beforehand (radical concept these days, I know)... and some spoilers are hard to avoid reading, when they're written in bold type on the front page!

False, or not, it sure is ridiculously stupid.

It's like someone gave a bunch of 10 year olds the reigns to a major motion picture, only with a slightly worse design scheme.

But Orci also said that the misinformation is not really working.

What I can see is the occasional bit of misinformation buried in a heap of actually leaked intel, and Bay going "DAMN!"

Yes,no pick up truck for Soundwave. Thank you,Mr.Orci.

All of this is a lie. It is all misinformation. Soundwave will really not be in the movie. Instead, Bay will overflow the movie with a bunch of hot 18 year old girls. They will all be wearing miniskirts, tank tops, and be surrounded with explosions and cars crashing. Maybe Optimus will make an appearance, but I doubt it. The Fallen will not appear. Megatron will turn to the side of the good to stop the evil teletubies from taking over Mars. Bumblebee will turn into a drunkard and most likely sit on his ass for the entire movie, watching the girls magically be attracted to Sam.

Hey, it could happen. This is a speculation thread, right? I'm speculating.

Have you not read this thread at all? Apparently it's working pretty damn well.

Still, just because the Soundwave thing was wrong, it doesn't prove that the rest is wrong.

I wonder how pissed Bay got at the leaked Megatron.

He's underestimating how many 'insiders' there are

I think there are 3 insiders working as garbage collectors for Bay's office.

Oh man, garbage collectors, now that's reliable information! I could see them getting their hands on some documents but who's to say that they're not forged.

"Not working well" does not equal "not working at all".

We're currently talking about one piece of recently leaked information that apparently turned out to be misinformation. I wouldn't call that an "effective misinformation campaign" just yet.

There could be more than one piece as well.

Sure, but the way Orci said it doesn't work well, it sounds it's more like a hassle for them than actually being of much use.

I assume there's a lot of information leaking out they don't want to, which more or less buries their attempts at leaking out false information, and only a small percentage of the false information is actually picked up by the fandom.

(I just hope the misinformation doesn't actually end up screwing up the movie by having characters address each other by the wrong names and such.)

Proving even one piece of information false shows that their is information that could be fake.

I'm done arguing about this until after I see the movie.

Good day sirs!

Or another Decepticon taking the highway out of the movie

Remember when Bay claimed all the robot names in the first movie were aliases, and nobody would know the real names until the toy boxes were being printed?

And then he claimed, in the next sentence, that "Devastator" would not be the final name?

Yeah, riiiiight.

lol at you guys still trying to give the insider credit...he was proven to have been giving false info...even if the soundwave thing is the only peice false that he has given....we wont know that till the movie comes...everything the insider has said and will say now MUST be taken with a grain of salt, there is no way to know if this person has thier facts straight or not - there is no way around that at this point

at the continued underestimation of the fandom's intelligence by Hollywood. Hasbro warned 'em!

--Moony

I still think Soundwave changing from a satellite to truck sounds weird; satellite to AWAK would have been better, in my opinion.

"In other postings, he stated that the "Fallen" in the title may be a robot, or just a synonym for the defeated side."

I said so awhile ago, but was told by others here that it was INDEED the "Fallen." LOL! Anyway, I don't care what they do so long as its written well and had good great action and acting.

Transformed

I bet it'll turn out that Soundwave turns into a truck that looks like a pickup from some angles, but isn't actually a pickup.

That was my thought Exactly.
That GMC Concept was almost a pickup truck but may be classified as an SUV, thus making the insider wrong.

While I appreciate Mr. Orci's contribution to the boards, he has done a lot of double-talk and non speak when it comes to answering questions. I dont think I've read anything that I could say he specifically has confirmed.

The Insider must have enough credentials to be trusted or I dont think the info provided would be posted as confirmed, but rather rumor instead.

I for one still think this whole misinformation campaign is doing for them the same thing as the early leaks last time.
It gives them a chance to fix things that have a massively bad fan reaction.
Fix it in production before the info is officially launched and then nobody has to look like a complete ass for making "crap"formers. Everything else is then just "concept art" or abandoned ideas.

Can You ask Him why they want to further screw up Transformers worse than they did the first time?

Ask whom?

That sounds like a fucking awesome movie you just described there! Count me in!

Forget BayFormers - that would be BabeFormers.

That was my take on it too. Like they're taking the time to make one or two pieces of misinformation to put out, but there's more real information that keeps leaking out with it.

It's not so much that the insider was wrong as much as he wasn't entirely correct. He's still a truck, just not of the pickup variety.

I would estimate that 80% of the information that has leaked is true, based on the comments that Orci made about the misinformation campaign.

This is a good news for me !!

alright this is getin' ridiculous we get news and later we find out it's bullshiz, thats why i don't visit the movie news forum much .... jazz no jazz, soundwave truck no truck...... return of the fallen fallen referencing the fallen one of the original 13 in war within no fallen from comic just the general idea of decepticons beaten. stupid!! it's old

how bout a damn trailer for this movie already

Soundwave is probably the loyalist, and the not a pick up truck hints at the hummer truck instead. Though who knows. I had a feeling the TFW insider was probably going off of opinion of what he's seen, as opposed to directly knowing what's going on in the movie.

The other TFW insider stuff could still be true, just it's tidbits that were probably gleamed as opposed to directly knowing exactly how various aspects will be handled.

IE he knows devastator is in and what vehicles, but not directly how they will be used or if they are entirely new bots altogether as opposed to two bots being rescans after repairs. Or arcee is made of 3 bikes, but no real info on if those are minicons or just her body pieces or 3 bots, or even the soundwave truck, what he may have saw and been told was truck like, but not being informed of the exact make etc means probably the insider thought it looked like a pick up truck, etc. His info is just like someone who was getting small snippets of truth without full on explanations of why or what as Hasbro or Game studios or other more in the know aspects might have. Ditto to even some of the producers even who aren't on set everyday. Even Murphy I doubt knows entirely what'll happen in the movie. The Devs vehicles are different since those are pretty easily accessible online of what types, or the insider may have inquired deeper on it cause of who it was.

Bay has a tendency to alter stuff on the fly anyway sometimes when he gets better ideas anyway. So who knows. =)

The fallen is in, but there's a good chance while it may eventually get a body, it may use the 'fallen bots' as his body temporarily. Which still hints at it possessing megatron and fits with 'megs' not being in 90% of the movie, because 'megs' isn't the dominate personality. What you have to keep in mind is that the news fits like a rubiks cube, just cause it looks impossible or is discredited, doesn't mean it isn't being used in a different fashion of that same aspect.

I know this will be stated as a 'he tell me' but the game I can almost guarantee will mention the original 13, and have a 'fallen' like bot. But even the game labs are being tightlipped on the full usage of the fallen. This with Furman's remarks suggest it is some form of entity or spark as opposed to full on new bot right away. It being on earth nearly as long as the allspark also suggests this. Especially if it was a spark the allspark had reclaimed for some reason, and was freed during the allsparks destruction in megatron's chest.

The pieces of info we've gotten have all been superficial, nothing actually story centric, so that still leaves oodles and oodles of possibilities.
As for the twins, I concur with bay's statement on that. There are more than one set of twins. As we already know the twins aren't the lambo brothers anyway, that already defeats their rumor.

Orci said he was not a pick-up truck; that could also mean that Soundwave may not even be a truck at all.

We have an anonymous source over at seibertron.com as well, and when we asked him/her to verify the whole pick-up thing, he/she could not find any reference of Soundwave reformating from his satellite mode, that does not mean he doesn't, but it leads me to believe that... well, he might not reformat at all.

Actually, I wouldn't mind that.

I think most people would prefer it.

Still cool, I'll be into the idea of Soundwave being a jet now. Not a repaint of starcream though but a flyer fighter. XD

I'd hate it if he stayed an orbiting hunk of metal the whole movie.

Ditto.

If he doesn't reformat then all I can say is that's just STUPID. Robots in disguise, so I'm either gonna be a satellite lying on the street or a 30 ft tall robot.

Who's "most people"? Bring on the trukk, says I.

People are so quick to forget the "disguise" aspect of "robots in disguise"

What better disguise than turning into something that is completely out of the reach of the Autobots but still enables you to spy on everyone?

And if you need to go to Earth to kick some ass, you just transform into robot mode. Most of the TFs in the first film didn't transform back into vehicle mode when fighting, so Soundwave wouldn't need a mobile Earth-mode to be dangerous.

[quote=Seawing;2437498]I'm betting the ice cream truck is Soundwave; think about it. It does use sound to entice the kiddies....

Haha don't we all...The humans will never see what hit em' The Decepticons must strike them where they are weak ice cream and small children