 | | | Ramon Rodriguez to Return for Transformers 3 | | Posted on 06-30-2009 at 09:54 AM by Tim Formas | | According to an article on Ramon Rodriguez in the Los Angeles Times, current plans for the third Transformers movie include Ramon Rodriguez's Leonardo Ponce De Leon Spitz (Leo Spitz). Per the article, director Michael Bay imagines a much "meatier" role for the character of Leo in the third movie. Transformers 3 is currently scheduled by Paramount to hit theatres on July 1, 2011, although Michael Bay is seeking a 2012 release.
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I could do without him really, he was annoying and whinney. More so than Sam, who at least had reason enough to whine. No, I say axe him and focus on Sam, Mikaela, Epps, Lennox and Graham (the SAS captain). With the parents making appearances as plot requires.
Shin-Gouki:
The "Humor" in these movies sadly is on par with the garbage that passes for "Humor" in "Comedy" films these days. I HATE IT!!!!!!!!! _Galvatron_: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin-Gouki The "Humor" in these movies sadly is on par with the garbage that passes for "Humor" in "Comedy" films these days. I HATE IT!!!!!!!!! | I agree...this "humor" is insulting and as low-brow as it gets.
Spirawobble: Quote:
Originally Posted by Starscreamownz Just like a lot of hatrs to the films. Bay doesn't write any of the dialogue or the jokes. HE DOES THE SHOOTING. In my opinion Bay does an epic job. if you must blame someone for write very funny humor which isn't way too out of place like lots of other movies then blame the writers. and I think Ramon was very funny in this film. The one where he tasers himself in the nads is epic funny. | Bay is the Director and Executive Producer, he decides what goes into the film and does alot more than the shooting. So yes we can blame him for the trashy humour, annoying characters ( Leo, The Twins ) etc. If he didn't like the script then he could have had it re written or could have cut the scenes in question from the final film.
I maybe wrong but I think Bay was on board before the writers, so this would mean that they would all sit down and discuss the script with Bay giving his ideas about where the movie's story should go.
I, like alot of fans, was badly disappointed by the movie, but saying Bay is blameless is just not true.
Jingoku:
The humor needs to return back to the level of the first Movie. And try to make it also a bit more intelligent.
"The boy's pheromone levels suggest he wants to mate with the female."
One of my favorite lines in the movie and it had the entire theater rolling. That's a good example for intelligent humor and it felt really awkward as well, because Ratchet didn't know about human relations. So Ratchet is very blunt about the things he says.
In ROTF, you would have the Twins go like "Dude, he so wants to hit that."
wubloodkin:
Probably the only good news is about this is that they're actually talking "Transformers 3".
Can't say I'm thrilled about Leo coming back...
Grimmjow316:
He was alright... well if he's going to be on the third one I'm hoping it doesn't turn into a long thing like the twins I really wanted to see more character development from the transformers not the comic relief characters
snavej:
What if Leo became the inheritor of Simmons' role? Let's say Simmons sacrifices himself to save Earth. (He already put himself in jeopardy with Devastator et al.) Let's also say that Leo studies Simmons' work as much as he can. (He is already very interested in that.) In that case, Leo would be a good replacement for the funny older guy. The two of them even have similar hair, which is crucial.
Why don't they bring back Maggie, Glen and the team? If they spent a long time analysing Transformer signals, they could help to predict Decepticon attacks. The Autobots can't always do the spy work, especially when they are busy fighting.
llamatron: Quote:
Originally Posted by snavej Why don't they bring back Maggie, Glen and the team? | Because they were horrible characters, terrible actors (mainly Maggie) and completely and utterly unconvincing in their roles. Also it didn't help that they were part of a subplot that went nowhere except for Snoozeville.
Alienbot:
I wouldn't mind a Maggie and Glen cameo to indicate they joined the many NEST analysts.
As for Leo, I found him very funny. Maybe he could get kidnapped by a Decepticon, enabling them more screentime, which is something I keep requesting of the two leads.
Scorpio: Quote:
Originally Posted by Opticron Primal I liked Leo. Now that he knows what's going on, I want to see how his character acts now. | Easiest way for him to be reintroduced is have him be the one to find one of the other Seekers or discover something by using his blog.
Then again he could be replacing Mikela with the behind and cleavage shots LOL
Scorpio: Quote:
Originally Posted by Spirawobble Bay is the Director and Executive Producer, he decides what goes into the film and does alot more than the shooting. So yes we can blame him for the trashy humour, annoying characters ( Leo, The Twins ) etc. If he didn't like the script then he could have had it re written or could have cut the scenes in question from the final film.
I maybe wrong but I think Bay was on board before the writers, so this would mean that they would all sit down and discuss the script with Bay giving his ideas about where the movie's story should go.
I, like alot of fans, was badly disappointed by the movie, but saying Bay is blameless is just not true. | Infact Bay did create the Twins entire charecter and the idea of there personality. Bay is definently to blame for the Twins.
Devastator Balls can be blamed on a person in a writers interview who suggested the idea and Bay for actually putting it in the film.
The Dog humping was probably created in a writers discussion and was most likely finalised by Bay.
The cloned robots can be blamed on ILM because they had barely any time to make the robots after Bay chose to keep the budget low on the robots so he could have more shots of them.
The cleavage and rear shots can be blamed on Bay as he says "It is what the teen audience want to see"
The bad camera angles and badly placed props can be blamed on Bay as that is his way of shooting and he chose to film so you dont see the whole robot because it is easier to animate.
Cant think of any of the other problems moreprimeland: Quote:
Originally Posted by Jericho Hmm, because that's the point of both films so far? When people bought tickets to Transformers I'm guessing 99.9% of them bought it to see ROBOTS. None of the movies you listed could have the title characters carry the film for longer than three seconds. Plus those films you listed involved stories that directly related to at least one human being the central character of the film. Matrix is nothing without Neo. Terminator is nothing without a Connor. Transformers doesn't need a human to be a central part of the story, they should be secondary characters at best. Unfortunately in these movies the Transformers take a back seat.
Like I said, it's called Transformers, not Sam Witwicky. | Yep, the robots took such a backseat that my 5 yr old nephew fell asleep waiting for Optimus to come back!! If this is supposed to be a kids movie then keep them interested. Quote:
Originally Posted by reave Boo.
I'm not generally a Bayformers hater, and I can live with a certain amount of stupid humor in the movies, but this character was just useless.
Bay, Orci, Kurtzman..... please..... for the love of God, don't put this guy in TF3. Every non-Transfan I went to ROTF with hated Leo, and wanted to see more robots. I know the silly humor is in there for the kids, but this guy was just not funny, and was a real waste of time. The robots in TF2 were had much more character, and overall much better than TF1. I think you could really reinvent the genre if you went a step further, and made the next movie more about the Transformers. You've got everyone hooked, now is your chance to really give it to them.
More wide shots, slow-mo and generally clarity of robot action would great too. | For sure, most everybody I talked to just thought all the college crap and the extra running around Egypt was a waste of time. Quote:
Originally Posted by [Wing_Saber-X] The hell..... i want more ROBOTS. Dammnit. | You said it!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Railguard I second that. Why not strengthen the story line of the Transformers and not the humans. | Yes, keep the Transformers and THEIR ongoing battles the centerpiece. Quote:
Originally Posted by Drakonus I thought his character added nothing to the movie. I'm impartial to him returning or not.
I still liked ROTF but it was lacking something the first movie had. I agree that the teen humor was poured on rather thick in the movie and hopefully they tone that down. It would be nice with their big budget to show more of the current transformers on screen and develop their personalities instead of bringing on a multitude of decepticons we see on screen for a few seconds. | In this case, the TEEN humor was so thick it failed!! Quote:
Originally Posted by ManiactoaLaco He's okay. However, more robots would be much better. 20 minutes of humans at the most!
MTL | Totally agree! Quote:
Originally Posted by Jingoku The humor needs to return back to the level of the first Movie. And try to make it also a bit more intelligent.
"The boy's pheromone levels suggest he wants to mate with the female."
One of my favorite lines in the movie and it had the entire theater rolling. That's a good example for intelligent humor and it felt really awkward as well, because Ratchet didn't know about human relations. So Ratchet is very blunt about the things he says.
In ROTF, you would have the Twins go like "Dude, he so wants to hit that." | At least the Autobots HAD more lines in the 1st movie, this time not only did they have to take a backseat to the Decepticons (which I get, it was ROTF) and humans, they didn't get a chance to converse with each other!! Total fail.
Witwicky Camaro:
I have to say that I enjoyed the Leo Spitz character and Ramon Rodriguez's performance in this movie (especially when put together with John Turturro. Those two were a riot); He starts off as a bit of annoying character, but he gradually becomes one of my favorites.
Xformermike: Quote:
Originally Posted by Lupis Convoy Because it made money hand over fist. If there was a chance to make more money, more often than not, Hollywood usually milks dry cashcow properties. | man, some people will answer any question whether rhetorical or not...
dude, no shit!
prime is a legend:
what a waste of space, just minimalise the human characters down to sam Michaela and maybe the army guys and be done with it!
Lupis Convoy: Quote:
Originally Posted by Xformermike man, some people will answer any question whether rhetorical or not...
dude, no shit! | No need to flame bait bud. Please keep it civil.
Sometimes people genuinely don't know why, and they need/want to know. Not everyone seems to have their fingers on the pulse of the Hollywood community. I've heard this question asked in seriousness about every week on other podcasts and message boards. All I did was give a quick summary of current trends of the Hollywood mindset.
You could have just passed over the post, and not wasted your time posting that trollish comment. So again, please keep it civil, this isn't 4chan.
transformers32:
I dont like the idea of alot of humans being in the movie but it is taking place on earth and there bound to run into a couple here and there so stop bitching about humans being in the movie to much. Its comman sense that they are going to be in the film..
Darkravager: Quote:
Originally Posted by transformers32 I dont like the idea of alot of humans being in the movie but it is taking place on earth and there bound to run into a couple here and there so stop bitching about humans being in the movie to much. Its comman sense that they are going to be in the film.. | There is a difference between humans being in the film and humans being the main screen presence in a movie that is supposed to be about giant robots.
Xformermike: Quote:
Originally Posted by Lupis Convoy No need to flame bait bud. Please keep it civil.
Sometimes people genuinely don't know why, and they need/want to know. Not everyone seems to have their fingers on the pulse of the Hollywood community. I've heard this question asked in seriousness about every week on other podcasts and message boards. All I did was give a quick summary of current trends of the Hollywood mindset.
You could have just passed over the post, and not wasted your time posting that trollish comment. So again, please keep it civil, this isn't 4chan. | I wasn't flame baiting. You're too sensitive! But okay ...you sure told me, I'll behave from now on sir. Are you going to reply within the hour again? Hahahaha, Oh man... life is precious...
tfan123:
He was very hilarious, but he was stupider than both the twins combined! So, im pretty 50/50 with him in it, but i'm more yes
Revan: Quote:
Originally Posted by prime is a legend what a waste of space, just minimalise the human characters down to sam Michaela and maybe the army guys and be done with it! | I couldn't agree more. Leo was a waste of space and screen time, and just keep the major human cast. Sam, Mikaela, Lennox, Epps, and Sam's parents. And maybe Simmons, no more. If anything they should have brought back Maggie and Glen, instead of introducing a absolutely obnoxious, idiotic whinner Leo. Should have had more Sam/Alice interaction, then wasting precious movie time with Leo.
Ace Convoy:
As long as he stays away from Tasers I'll be good
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