 | | | Optimus Prime to Combine with Jetfire in TF2 | | Posted on 09-23-2008 at 07:24 AM by Super_Megatron | | During a Hasbro Italy 2009 Brand Preview it was revealed that Transformers Movie Optimus Prime will Combine with Jetfire in Revenge of the Fallen. This is why Jetfire will be an Autobot, and not a Decepticon as we previously reported.
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Originally Posted by Fort Max It's got nothing to do with what people think of combining, it is entirely because it wasn't in G1. I didn't see anybody up in arms about Devastator being in this movie, untill it was announced that there may be 5 or 7 bots involved. | But Prime has been combining with things since before G1.
Powered Convoy anyone?
Then there was Powermaster Optimus Prime. Which was three robots and a trailer.(unless you don't use Godbomber/Apex armor.)
red00wolf: Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra88 Eh, it could work...Prime and Jetfire face off against the Fallen or Devastator, get their asses kicked, and then one of the two decides to combine their forces, á la Devastator and Arcee. Jetfire just has to open a few panels and shift apart parts, Optimus goes in, Jetfire closes back up (partially at least) and you got a mech that has the power, experience and skill of both Prime and Jetfire.
And hey, the movie already has the icecream truck twins, possibly Arcee and the Constructicons... | This.
so really guys are you just looking for a reason to hate it.
CryoPrime:
Hellz Yeah! that is all.
JediLofty:
I think this could be a toy-only gimmick; look at the way Voyager Blackout and Deluxe Scorponok from the first movie combined - they certainly didn't do THAT in the film!
starkiller80:
I don't like the idea of Prime and Jetfire. It cheapens the idea of combiners.
It's okay for a cartoon, but not a "real" movie... Up to this point, I've been pretty happy with everything else I've heard about ROTF.
shibamura_prime:
If this ends up being true, as lone as there's no cheap, stupid sex joke is cracked when they do combine I'll be fine with it.
Weremole: Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevermore How's that supposed to WORK in scale? | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU92qs7A1Js
This is, I guess. Both my answer to the scale question (though its more reasonable to assume Prime becomes the chest and Jetfire forms everything else) and if combination is awesome enough.
Because its pretty DAMN awesome. I, for one wellcome GATTAI into TF:ROTF with open arms.
Gingerchris:
Sam will use his Allspark powers to merge Prime and Jetfire.
Then again, I'm sure they could just reformat together in any way they liked, merged without any part of the final whole looking like it came from either one of them. Actually, that's how I envision Devastator (or whatever he'll be called) combining - a mass of reformatting parts that end up looking nothing like the component robots it was made from.
And no need for him to un-combine later because he'll probably be destroyed very quickly (also by Sam's new Allspark powers).
WWMEGATRON:
Only one combiner will accept : Devastator( though Bruticus and Superion could come in future sequels ,but seems on this one we get Devastator) !!! Through out the last 2 of the 4 TFs anime show (shown in the U.S.) Prime combines with other bots or power ups and I'm sick of it !! Don't like the idea and I hope I don't see it through out the movie.
Silent_Magnus: Quote:
Originally Posted by Weremole http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU92qs7A1Js
This is, I guess. Both my answer to the scale question (though its more reasonable to assume Prime becomes the chest and Jetfire forms everything else) and if combination is awesome enough.
Because its pretty DAMN awesome. I, for one wellcome GATTAI into TF:ROTF with open arms. | That video does not work in America. (had to resist my urge to make a joke there)
Probably other countries also.
"This video is not available in your country."
G1Wheeljack:
Sounds like a homage to Armada/Superlink with Jet Convoy/Jet Optimus. It should be interesting, I just hope this gimmick won't hinder the toy in any way if Hasbro makes them able to combine.
Vince:
I am not particularily fond of this idea at all......it seems as though each movie will get its own 'gimmick' now. Yes combiners make up a decent part of the transformers universe but I'm just afraid TF2 is going to be all about them....'Devastator is combining! the only way to defeat him is to combine too! gimmicks awayyyyy!'
Watch, TF3 will be all about the Triple Changers.....Bumblebee will probably get a third 'bee' mode.. doomtron: Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevermore How's that supposed to WORK in scale? | you just made a huge point. now it doesent sound nearly as cool
ministargazer:
If it's just a Toy gimmick, then I'd be quite chuffed to get a new combiner. the info has apparently come through Hasbro so it may not be in the movie.
If we assume that the big movie leaks are correct then I'm perfectly happy with a decepticon combiner i.e. "Devastator" an Arcee Combiner too and the Ice Cream truck. BUT... too many of the same gimmicks in the Movie is pushing it a bit. I'm still not convinced on the bringing Megatron back idea. unless it's done in the last few minutes of the film as either the end of a major plot line (e.g decepticons spend the entire movie rebuilding him and finally switch him on at the end) or as a prelude to the next movie, something like 'The Fallen' is defeated so Unicron reactivates Megatron/Galvatron to take 'The Fallens' place
But drifting back onto the subject..... OP combiner - NO! (unless it's just a toy gimmick)
Squints: Quote:
Originally Posted by doomtron you just made a huge point. now it doesent sound nearly as cool | It could still work. Think about it, if Jetfire is going to be huge relative to Optimus (at least in terms of mass), that would make a great armor-type mode, which would be an interesting homage to most of Optimus' Unicron Trilogy combinations (though, ironically, not his combination with Jetfire).
doomtron: Quote:
Originally Posted by Squints It could still work. Think about it, if Jetfire is going to be huge relative to Optimus (at least in terms of mass), that would make a great armor-type mode, which would be an interesting homage to most of Optimus' Unicron Trilogy combinations (though, ironically, not his combination with Jetfire). | kinda like powermaster prime or magnus mmmm that could be hot.
Silent_Magnus:
Maybe Prime's a headmaster. Chaos Prime: Quote:
Originally Posted by RodimusPrimus Should be interesting, if executed right, plus it's a pretty cool Armada nod, I mean the movie does come out on the 25 anni, right? | That's the magic word, 'if executed right'.
Of course if executed right, anything can look great. But if they couldn't execute the entire first movie right, I seriously doubt Jetpants Prime would be done correctly.
DeceptiKreep:
I don't really like this idea .... Optimus is a stand alone character. Should not be combining with anyone.
MnemonicSyntax: Quote:
Originally Posted by ActionMasterZod I just hope we don't see Prime turning into a giant pair of pants, and that Jetfire doesn't turn into a shirt. | I agree, or any other clothing type combos. If Jetfire combines with Optimus, make it some sort of armor that covers his whole body.
But I don't like this idea one bit.
MGX: Quote:
Originally Posted by Smkscrn GT Sounds interesting, but I'd rather see Optimus combine with his trailer instead of Jetfire. | Me too.
Icespark:
Live action combiners would be a lot of fun to see! I wonder what size toy Jetfire would have to be for this combination to work successfully?
Now I'm going to be hoping for Scott McNeil as Jetfire! MGX: Quote:
Originally Posted by Railguard That is a bunch of crap!!! In the original show, Prime was...well Prime. He didn't have to combine with aynthing to kick some ass!!!! | Powermaster Optimus Prime and HiQ from G1 say hi. Ravenxl7:
Sounds interesting. Personally I don't have a problem with it, but a more unique idea would have been even more interesting. Good news all around as I plan on getting an Optimus Prime and a Jetfire out of this toy line anyways. It'll be a nice little gimmick for them. Hopefully the two Voyager, or Ultra, figures can combine, as I'd rather not buy two Leader class figures. Especially both being Autobots. The exposed cogs sounds nice too. Basically just more detail in robot-mode.
SKowl: Quote:
Originally Posted by Supremus So... this confirms that ROTF = Armada: The Movie.
- Jetpants Optimus
- Megatron tank w/exposed head
- Bike combiner
- Minicon truck
- Sam = Rad
- Mikaela = hotter Alexis
- Token latin guy = Carlos | Oh crap, you're right!
seeker311:
Ive never liked the idea of Optimus combining with anyone or anything; makes me think they de-value him and bring him down to Power Ranger level when they do that.
alien:
Transformers Armada superlink?
trebleshot:
I'll wait until combined images surface before I make a definitive judgment, but so far I'm not liking the idea very much.
I would much rather prefer they use a trailer for Optimus, if he has to combine at all. But I will give them the benefit of the doubt, for now.
Zress Tayasu:
yeeesh, someone call the WHAAAAAmbulance. calm down people, did you ever think maybe prime wants to be able to fight flying decepticons on semi-even footing? combining with a jet seems like a decent way to get to do so without major permanent reconfiguration. maybe he LIKES turning into a truck and doesn't want to give it up to go up into the air and smack starscream upside the head, but REALLY wants to smack starscream upside the head.
General Tekno:
Interesting... I've always liked combining as a gimmick myself.
Mind you, it helps that I'm a Gurren Lagann fan, where you can pretty much combine anything with anything.
My main concern isn't actually the execution in the movie, but the hobbling of the toys as a result.
[Wing_Saber-X]:
To all the whiners and naysayers... PLEASE get over it! Fact: It's just a movie
What i do know is that if ever Prime combines into super-mode with ol' Jetfire, then they had better come up with a two-pack exclusive toy.
Now THAT would kick so much ass!
As to weather the "ghey" combining jokes go, eh.. awkward silence from the cinema goers should be a good laugh. bongzoe:
i said it once and i will say it again for goodness sake no more robot combiners like armada. first time it was weird enough second it will be too much. the constructicons combining is really possible but optimus+jetfire that is a whole new level of weird.this most probably a rumor.
NO WAY NOT AGAIN
Squall42080:
Wow.
When I clicked on discuss this thread...I never expected such negativity. I can understand some having problems with Optimus Prime combining with something as we just met these characters...and they deserve more individual screen time. But on the other hand...maybe we shouldn't have been so vocal about getting a Decepticon combiner (Devastator) in the film. Honestly guys...unless you have another way of explaining how a truck and five or so dinky sports cars are going to take on Devstator, a revived Megatron, and possibly the Fallen...we are just going to have to accept that some Autobot is gonna have to get bigger...and what better way to increase size than to have Prime combine with the Blackbird?
Who knows, maybe it is just a gimmick for the toys...and who knows, maybe they just combine in vehicle mode as transport. Maybe the blackbird picks Optimus up and launches him like a missile at Devastator...who knows? We certainly won't until June 26th, 2009.
For me...the idea of Optimus Prime combining with Jetfire sounds awesome. As a huge fan of Armada...and what concepts it introduced and re-introduced to the series, I have to say kudos to Bay and crew for bringing in something non-G1...but still was technically in G1. If it makes you guys feel any better, think of Prime as one of those cassettes that combined with another cassette. Yeah...you liked it then...but when Armada brought it back, the weeping began.
We all recognize that the Armada cartoon was just plain...bad. It had animation problems, script problems...and hell, even the toys had problems...but that means nothing in a big budget movie. I'm sure they wouldn't randomly combine anything in the movie unless there was a need for it. Hell, what if none of the Autobots combined...that wouldn't make sense...how can the Decepticons do it, but not the Autobots...
Squall42080: Quote:
Originally Posted by bongzoe the constructicons combining is really possible but optimus+jetfire that is a whole new level of weird.this most probably a rumor.
NO WAY NOT AGAIN | How is Devastator combining "really possible," but Prime and Jetfire combining "weird"? That comment makes no sense. Combination is combination.
They are friggin robots for goodness sakes. We were OK with it in G1 when Cassettes combined, 5-way combiners, 6-way combiners, Duocons, robots combining with their "human" shells...I mean WTF?
Baccala1976:
This is gonna suck. I never liked the idea of Prime combining with another Autobot as it reeks of A/E/C and I never liked those lines to begin with. Prime merging with his trailer would be much better and have bit of a G1 feel to it.
Omega Charge:
I think it all sounds cool. These toys will be awesome. I can't wait to see that Megatron.
Opticron Primal:
Wait, WHAT?!? Jetfire and Prime combining? WTF is this? Armada?
Ceerad:
I feel as though I'm going to be pushing this a lot over the next few months. What About Bob?:
How about a spoiler alert on that title for those of us not really wanting to know that kinda stuff..
Peanut04:
In my head it screams bad idea, but meh, I'll wait till I see it for myself. To me it only means the difference between buy and not buying the DVD. I'll watch the movie regardless to see how it turns out.
Silent_Magnus:
I'm a little disappointed when people talk about Armada Optimus's combination more than RID's.
Although even then it wasn't exactly a new concept. Quote:
Originally Posted by What About Bob? How about a spoiler alert on that title for those of us not really wanting to know that kinda stuff.. | The title of the topic gives nothing away, and if you're talking about the news page. That's what the No movie spoilers news page. is for.
doomtron: Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent_Magnus Maybe Prime's a headmaster.  |  thanks i havent laughed in a while that just funny i dont care who you are
Squall42080: Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent_Magnus I'm a little disappointed when people talk about Armada Optimus's combination more than RID's. | I think the only reason people talk about Armada's combination moreso than RIDs combination is because of the transformation itself.
I'm a big fan of both...but I suppose its because RIDs is more of a part-explosion, with Prime's armor disconnecting and reconnecting in different ways and configurations...whereas Armada's combination was just two components transforming and combining.
Hell, I'd be happy with either in a live action movie, but I imagine a general audience with have more of a problem with the RID-style combination, wondering why parts are just floating mid-air.
Retroqqq:
i agree with the armada posts before me , TF2 = Armada .
Sentinel Pax:
D'oh! I really hope this is done properly. The thought of scale issues between a Blackbird and a semi-truck is blowing my mind. I think it'll be okay if Jetfire develops the technique as a way to compete with Devastator...but they'll have to do it right.
Bumblethumper:
Team combiners like Devastator are cool. Always have been.
But two bots combining is 'ghey'.
the only way I can see this working is something like if Jetfire gets his brains blown out and Optimus figures out a way to commandeer the giant body in order to defeat Devastator.
SPLIT LIP:
Oh God I hope not. Please, Devastator I can kinda understand, but don't make Prime combine, that's just stupid. If it's true the movie just lost big points with me.
I hope it's just a gimmick for the toys and that's it.
Though the idea that you can see the inner gears and stuff when TFing the figure sounds neat. Quote:
Originally Posted by [Wing_Saber-X] To all the whiners and naysayers... PLEASE get over it! Fact: It's just a movie | Fact: So what? Imma still bitch about it. I don't like it and Imma say so.
Squall42080: Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumblethumper Team combiners like Devastator are cool. Always have been.
But two bots combining is 'ghey'.
the only way I can see this working is something like if Jetfire gets his brains blown out and Optimus figures out a way to commandeer the giant body in order to defeat Devastator. | That's a lot of "ghey" bots in history!
G1 Dreadwing, Star Saber, Micromaster Combiners, Headmasters, Targetmasters, Powermasters, Duocons, Cassette Combiners, Skylynx...
godsenddeath:
Combining toys don't necessarily equate to combing characters in the movie.
Oh and the 'Calm down they're just toys' thing too.
Master Fwiffo: Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumblethumper Team combiners like Devastator are cool. Always have been.
But two bots combining is 'ghey'. | So...
Six bots combining to form a big honking robot is a brilliant idea that must happen at all costs, but two bots combining is 'ghey'?
Your logic astounds me.
I wonder if combinors were first introduced in say, RID, if fanboys would throw hissy fits about their inclusion in the movie. Because really, 6 bots combining is pretty stupid, and 'power ranger-ish'.
That doesn't mean I don't enjoy the idea, it means I laugh at the hypocrisy going on in this thread. Good job!
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