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Michael Bay Talks Transformers 4 Plot, Mark Wahlberg And Shia

Posted on 11-10-2012 at 10:39 AM by SilverOptimus under Transformers Movie (Just Movie) (All Transformers Movie News)
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Despite mixed reaction from fans, the entertainment industry is praising director Michael Bay on selecting actor Mark Wahlberg for Transformers 4. According to MTV:

"It's an absolutely brilliant move," MTV Geek editor Valerie Gallaher tells MTV News of Wahlberg's casting. "It'll keep this franchise fresh."

"The guy can act - as anyone who has seen 'Boogie Nights' or 'The Departed' can attest to," agrees Brian Truitt with USA Today. "And he brings sort of an exasperated 'Come on, alien robots, are you kidding me?!' vibe that would make for a great and different dynamic."


Meanwhile TMZ contacted the director via phone. Find out what Mr. Bay had to say about Transformers 4 Plot, Mark Wahlberg's Character And Shia's Comments, after the jump.

TFW2005 rough transcript :

TMZ: So big huge news in Hollywood today. The Transformers Franchise will go on and instead of Shia Labeouf, they have landed Mark Wahlberg for the lead role in this. Which is just awesome… everybody loves Wahlberg. Perfect fit for this. And what was real interesting about this… we were talking about this in the news room, and we remember Shia Labeouf came out and said some things about the franchise that he felt like he didn’t have enough creative freedom in this. Well, now you are… gone. And Mark Wahlber is in this. It feels like Director Michael Bay really won that one. And what’s really great is we were able to get Michael Bay on the phone to talk to us about this today. Michael, How you doing?

Michael: Hey guys, how are you?

TMZ: Not as good as you. We don’t have Mark Wahlberg. Can you send him over to host our show one day, when Harvey’s gone?

Michael: He’s a fun guy. Just finished working with him on Pain & Gain, a crime story that we finished in Miami.

TMZ: So tell us, how did this deal get put together and how did you score Wahlberg for the Transformers Franchise?

Michael: I don’t know… just something we thought about a bit. You saw the whole Internet Rumor that he was on. And that wasn’t really true. And we were in the inception part of the story. And just talking with Stephen Spielberg. And that was a great way to really take this franchise in a different direction. We’re doing a lot of things that are going to really make it feel fresh and new. And he’s an actor, he has accomplished, he’s an Academy Award Nominee and I love working with him and he’s got a great sense of comedy and great pathos. He’s a guy who can handle great action. And he never had a huge franchise. So this is something that really appealed to him. He said “I really want to show a movie to my kids”. You know? It kinda happened.

TMZ: So Michael, let’s talk about the fact that… you know.. you had couple of your Transformers Stars… you know… have some not-so-kind-things to say.

Michael: Listen guys, you got to understand, fame is very hard on young people. It’s… I kind of helped raise Shia for three movies. And it’s… it’s really tough. Fame is a very rough thing. And you know Shia LaBeouf is a great, great guy. He’s a great actor. And I have nothing but respect for him.

TMZ: Did you take offense or did it hurt when he said…

Michael: No, No.

TMZ: …His comment about not enough creativity doing these big blockbusters?

Michael: What he’s saying is he wants to be taken seriously. And sometimes when you’re in a blockbuster, people don’t take you seriously. You know? I think that’s what he’s really saying. He’s going through more of a smaller role.

TMZ: He’s in his Art House Stage now.

Michael: You know… listen… he’s only 26.

TMZ: So he will be back?

Michael: He will be back.

TMZ: So, any early idea of what the story is going to be on Transformers and how Mark... He’s not taking over Shia’s role?

Michael: No no. The movie will continue four years from the Attack on Chicago; which is in the last movie. So it’s going to still have the same lineage. And it’s going a full new direction and feels very natural how it’s going in that direction, there is no way you’re going to ever find out what the story because you don’t have to dig through my trash but I shredded my trash…

TMZ: [Laughing]

Michael:..Pentagon level encryption on our computers. So good luck to ya!

TMZ: We’ll.. we’ll wait till you come out and tell us. By the way, just a suggestion you know I’m not a director or anything but we are showing some shots of Mark from the set of Pain & Gain may be you wanna have his shirt off in Transformers too.

Michael: I think that’s “Baby Fat” He ate so much… he ate seven meals a day.

TMZ: You gotta see his gym. He’s unbelievably huge. There’s a reason for that… he works out more than us.

Michael: Exactly, exactly. You know he actually lost 30 pounds for the next movie which is three weeks after Pain and Gain. Which is crazy.

TmZ: Were you working out with him in the gym? Obviously he was working out… everybody was working out. You were surrounded by really huge guys in this film.

Michael: Dwayne was someone who rubs body oil on him all day.

TMZ: [Laughing]

Michael: He gets wet with Baby Oil.

TMZ: Look at him. There’s a shot of you standing next to him. He looks huge and you got to boss that guy around.

Michael: Yeah. I’m not intimidate by those guys. Trust me.

TMZ: [Laughing]

TMZ: So when do we expect [Transformers 4]? 2014?

Michael: Yeah, July 4th 2014.

TMZ: You already knows it’s July 4th, 2014?

Michael: Yeah… come-on?

TMZ: Of course you do.

TMZ: Alright. Keep us posted what’s going on. Shirts off.
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fallen_revenge
I think you linked the wrong video, this video is only 9 minutes long.
Transbot90210
I guess MB's handlers got a hold of him. Shai spoke negatively about the franchise and MB didn't explode, in fact that was a pretty mature answer.

I didn't watch the video so I am only going by the OP's quote.
Daimao
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Originally Posted by Transbot90210 View Post
I guess MB's handlers got a hold of him. Shai spoke negatively about the franchise and MB didn't explode, in fact that was a pretty mature answer.

I didn't watch the video so I am only going by the OP's quote.
I know, I came in expecting him to bash Shia, glad he sounded professional this time. And 4 years after DotM, good, that should squash the rumors that Wahlberg will play an older Sam
bigevil801
Michael Bay saying that the internet was a reason to team up on transformers? There is plenty of people saying how much they hate Marky Mark also.
Shepard Prime
I think Bay only really blows up on someone who he doesn't respect and/or feels they are talking out the side of their mouth (or the back of their @$$ for that matter).

SHia gets a pass because he's always said good things about SHia and honestly gets him as a friend. Meagan doesn't because she's b!tched and complained from day one, going back to the first movie.
daitarn red
bay used chicago from tf3 movie
ErbFan28
4 years and in a completely new direction....hmm. Almost sounds like a reboot
Nerdicon
I can deal with Wahlberg. He's a decent actor. Though I'd rather he play HotRod. Just sayin.
QLRformer
This interview gives me nothing beyond praise for what Shia's done, and what Mark's going to do. And maybe some suggestive comments involving the Rock and oil.

I wished there was more on the film itself and its story, that's all. Still keeping my fingers crossed for more updates though.
Laquah
I think Mark is an excellent addition to the franchise, I was getting tired of the Sam character. He got too amp'd up too easily and the rapid fire mumbling was getting old.

Time for a more mature character (hopefully, as Wahlberg can play pretty much any age) and a new direction. Four years sounds good, time for a new cast!! And a new threat to deal with as pretty much all of the 'cons from 3 are dead.

Mark should also make it easier to get a good female lead for a change???
Rated X
As much as I hate Shia, picking Marky Mark was not the answer. WACK !!!

On top of that, why do movie producers always insist on choosing someone almost 40 years old to play the role of a boy in his late teens ? Why cant they just get a boy in his late teens ???
NeverDoubt
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On top of that, why do movie producers always insist on choosing someone almost 40 years old to play the role of a boy in his late teens ? Why cant they just get a boy in his late teens ???
Because a teen might still have to take time off for school.
[Wing_Saber-X]
meh
Rated X
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Because a teen might still have to take time off for school.
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of someone ages 19-21. But then again, I would have dropped out of school in a heartbeat to make a cool million in a major motion picture. Im sure my parents would have concured. Ill have plenty of time to attend night school later on, with a fat bank account.
Shepard Prime
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Originally Posted by Rated X View Post
As much as I hate Shia, picking Marky Mark was not the answer. WACK !!!

On top of that, why do movie producers always insist on choosing someone almost 40 years old to play the role of a boy in his late teens ? Why cant they just get a boy in his late teens ???
Wait, is it confirmed he's playing the teen boy?
eagc7
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TMZ: So he will be back?

Michael: He will be back.
i am confused here, does it means shia will still be in tf4 or what?
SilverOptimus
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i am confused here, does it means shia will still be in tf4 or what?
I think it means Shia will be back for action blockbuster movies. He's doing other more serious roles now.
TylerMirage
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As much as I hate Shia, picking Marky Mark was not the answer. WACK !!!

On top of that, why do movie producers always insist on choosing someone almost 40 years old to play the role of a boy in his late teens ? Why cant they just get a boy in his late teens ???
1.) Nowhere has it been confirmed - or even hinted at - that Mark will be playing the "teenage boy" character.
2.) Looking at "teenagers" in film or television, it's apparent that, for the most part, getting a teenager who is actually the required age isn't the best choice. Getting a 16 year old kid to play a 16 year old kid makes them look really young. Crime shows, teenage dramas, blockbuster movies, whatever. You'll notice that they seem to cast older actors to play younger characters. A 15 year old actor will play the 11 year old child murderer, the 21 year old Shia plays an eleventh grader, the majority of the Glee cast is/was 20-25 and they were playing high-schoolers. That's just how casting teenage characters works. Heck, it seems to almost apply in real life too; Carly Rae Jepsen is 26 years old and yet she looks like an 18 year old. I'm 21 years old, but if I were cast in anything, I'm sure I'd be the "16 year old friend" because I look like an awkward man-child. I wouldn't make a convincing young adult, but I'd make one heck of a generic high schooler. Actual teenagers appear to be younger than they actually are when the camera sees them. It's not always the case, but the majority of the time it is.
eagc7
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I think it means Shia will be back for action blockbuster movies. He's doing other more serious roles now.
ahhhh, okay
daitarn red
mark is playing dainel [sam 's son]
Secretcode
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mark is playing dainel [sam 's son]
Impossible. The movie takes place 4 years after Dark of the Moon.
Wheeljack_Prime
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Impossible. The movie takes place 4 years after Dark of the Moon.
*inbeforetimetravelrumors*
fallen_revenge
Wait a minute. He said July 4th, 2014? They changed the date! I guess they did it because its the "4th" movie, oh well!
Rated X
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1.) Nowhere has it been confirmed - or even hinted at - that Mark will be playing the "teenage boy" character.
2.) Looking at "teenagers" in film or television, it's apparent that, for the most part, getting a teenager who is actually the required age isn't the best choice. Getting a 16 year old kid to play a 16 year old kid makes them look really young. Crime shows, teenage dramas, blockbuster movies, whatever. You'll notice that they seem to cast older actors to play younger characters. A 15 year old actor will play the 11 year old child murderer, the 21 year old Shia plays an eleventh grader, the majority of the Glee cast is/was 20-25 and they were playing high-schoolers. That's just how casting teenage characters works. Heck, it seems to almost apply in real life too; Carly Rae Jepsen is 26 years old and yet she looks like an 18 year old. I'm 21 years old, but if I were cast in anything, I'm sure I'd be the "16 year old friend" because I look like an awkward man-child. I wouldn't make a convincing young adult, but I'd make one heck of a generic high schooler. Actual teenagers appear to be younger than they actually are when the camera sees them. It's not always the case, but the majority of the time it is.
All Im saying is that the traditional Bumblebee human sidekick is a teenage boy. I dont see any shortage of young teenage boys in the USA that they need to use somebody that was 18 like in 1989. Maybe middle america respects Mark Wahlberg as an actor. But here in Miami he will always be Marky Mark, the Vanilla Ice spin-off known for his song "Good Vibrations" in the early 90's. The guy was born in 1971 for crying out loud...
SamsHappyTime
Wreckers=Funky Bunch. Also, Peter Cullen should go on a wild rant of complaints and insults just to see if Michael Bay would be so foolish and replace him. I'm thinking William Daniels (KITT and Mr. Feeney). I didn't bother to read the whole thing but in general Bay really needs to stop freaking out when someone says anything negative. He can just say: "Whaat?? I couldn't hear your opinion from way up here on this mountain of cash my movies made!!!" He needs to relax...or stop avoiding the inevitable and start blowing people up that defy him. Oh, like he doesn't skim explosive materials from his sets here and there while filming his movies. He's a literal powderkeg.
trence5
I keep hearing the terms "fresh and new".......... Who'll be the leader of the Decepticons? HELL, will there even BE Decepticons in the film seeing as how they all died in the last film? Or is this going to deal with the last surviving Autobots trying to fit into society (ugh)?

I doubt Wahlberg is going to be "Spike".
hereisevil1
the movie is about transformers niot human counter parts anyone could replace shia as long as the plot for the robots is good and has some kick ass effects who needs a guy who doesnt appreciate the transformer franchise anyway
lildevilchick
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Wreckers=Funky Bunch. Also, Peter Cullen should go on a wild rant of complaints and insults just to see if Michael Bay would be so foolish and replace him. I'm thinking William Daniels (KITT and Mr. Feeney). I didn't bother to read the whole thing but in general Bay really needs to stop freaking out when someone says anything negative. He can just say: "Whaat?? I couldn't hear your opinion from way up here on this mountain of cash my movies made!!!" He needs to relax...or stop avoiding the inevitable and start blowing people up that defy him. Oh, like he doesn't skim explosive materials from his sets here and there while filming his movies. He's a literal powderkeg.
Uh..what? He only got mad at Weaving. He was actually incredibly mature in how he addressed Shia's negativity. In no way shape or form did he bash on him. So you getting upset over him getting upset when he didn't get upset literally makes absolutely no sense here.
eagc7
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HELL, will there even BE Decepticons in the film seeing as how they all died in the last film?
there are still many other Decepticons out there.
cosmos3
"come on alien robots, are you kidding me??"


This is why Michael Bay, Mark Wahlburg, The Bayverse, and all of its associated media and toys SUCK.

I just hope they postpone the movie as long as possible. Not seeing 10k movie Bumblebees lining the pegs these days has been awesome.

Michael Bay must be the biggest douchebag to work for too. Especially since that guy has cut down all of his talent in the three films, namely Megan Fox, Shia Lawhatever, and Hugo Weaving. That says something about the guy. Before you know it, the guy will piss Peter Cullen off and where will the film series be then? As dead as Michael Bay's hairline.
Ash from Carolina
Yes Mark Wahlberg can act if he has the right director and writer supporting him. But Mark Wahlberg isn't one of those actors who can carry a film on acting talent alone so wrong director and wrong writer can produce a Mark Wahlberg stinker.

Also not buying the new direction, new feel smoke and mirrors. Same fictional universe only four years later with the same production team that has made basically the same movie three times in a row. Only difference will be new human characters and some new robot characters. Everything else exactly the same right down to killing enough Decepticons to call it good enough to end the movie because they couldn't think of anything else to do.

I know there is a saying for fool me once fool me twice, but is there even an expression for fool me four times?
GAUGE
there's only 1 thing I see wrong about this movie and it's not Mark Wahlberg.

THE CONS ARE DEAD!!!

I just really hope the same bot designs are not rehashed as always.

If he really wants this movie to have a very fresh start. He needs to go back to basics and start from the ground up.

Sadly, we know Bay at this pount.

Stupid Humor, the final battle will be in a city. lots of Baysplosions. zero plot.

Horrible bot designs.

huge Military and car commercial full of advertising for Apple and tons of other commercial advertising.
TylerMirage
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All Im saying is that the traditional Bumblebee human sidekick is a teenage boy. I dont see any shortage of young teenage boys in the USA that they need to use somebody that was 18 like in 1989. Maybe middle america respects Mark Wahlberg as an actor. But here in Miami he will always be Marky Mark, the Vanilla Ice spin-off known for his song "Good Vibrations" in the early 90's. The guy was born in 1971 for crying out loud...
Oh yeah, I'm not disputing that. Plenty of younger people out there, it's just that your original post...

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Originally Posted by Rated X View Post
As much as I hate Shia, picking Marky Mark was not the answer. WACK !!!

On top of that, why do movie producers always insist on choosing someone almost 40 years old to play the role of a boy in his late teens ? Why cant they just get a boy in his late teens ???
...made it seem like it had been confirmed that Mark was going to be playing the proposed "teenage boy" role. Which it hasn't. We know so little about the casting of this movie - and the movie itself in general - that the casting of Mark as somebody is pretty much the only concrete news we have. Nothing has said that Mark is playing the role of the young teen. We don't know who he'll be playing. He could be an older Sam, he could be Sam's son in the future, he could be someone completely unrelated to Sam, he could be the new main soldier character, he could be someone in a cameo/minor role a la Rainn Wilson/Bernie Mac/John Malkovich, who knows? We don't know anything about his role.

A knee-jerk reaction about Mark's casting here after news of a "teenage boy"-role is like getting up in arms back in 2007 with this example: Imagine if we had been told that this new Transformers movie coming out in 2007 was going to be about "a high-school boy and how his life is turned upside-down when the Transformers arrive". And then the next bit of news was that Jon Voight had been cast in the movie in an unspecified role. Would anyone really make a connection that "teenage boy is main character" and "Jon Voight is cast" would be related to each other? Probably no one, because it didn't say that Jon Voight would be playing the teenage boy role. This Mark-situation is no different. We know some teenage roles are involved. We know Mark has been cast. Nothing has been said about if those two bits of news are connected. That's what I'm getting at.
SilverOptimus
One thing came from the interview regarding Mark's character...

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TMZ: So, any early idea of what the story is going to be on Transformers and how Mark... He’s not taking over Shia’s role?

Michael: No no. The movie will continue four years from the Attack on Chicago; which is in the last movie. So it’s going to still have the same lineage. And it’s going a full new direction and feels very natural how it’s going in that direction, there is no way you’re going to ever find out what the story because you don’t have to dig through my trash but I shredded my trash…
Take it how you see it.
Sportimus
Shia is an ungrateful little tool. He should be grateful to have been part of not one, but THREE blockbuster movies that made him sickeningly wealthy (not incuding Indiana Jones 4). Not to mention those TF movies opened a wide path for him to be in other movies and boosted his career status big time. Look a gift horse in the mouth, Shia. He may be a decent actor, but he's still a tool.
Satomiblood
Mark Wahlberg is Mark Wahlberg. He's no longer Marky Mark. He's had nothing to do with that for 15-20 years and has clearly moved on to better things. He's a successful actor and has also been working as a television and film producer. The way some of you are reacting to the news of Wahlberg's casting makes it seem as if Bay brought on Rob Van Winkle instead.
Baron Prime
Quite frankly, I couldn't care less. The Movie Transfranchise is for the mainstream audience, geared to rake in cash. Anyone else remember when we stuck by the brand when it was not mainstream and now "cool"? It would have to be a serious and intelligent storyline and the female lead not chosen because you can take shots of her arse to even halfway peak my interest.
webz
Why not reboot Transformers? They did it with Spider-Man, X-Men, James Bond, Hulk... When the going gets tough, the tough get a reboot!
TylerMirage
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Why not reboot Transformers? They did it with Spider-Man, X-Men, James Bond, Hulk... When the going gets tough, the tough get a reboot!
That's a very apt way to describe it, webz. Quite honestly, I'm surprised they didn't. I thought for sure Hollywood would, given their penchant for that kind of thing. Personally, Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy didn't need to be rebooted, but they did it anyway. The Punisher (2004) didn't need to be rebooted, but they did it anyway. And given the relative financial/critical success of films like Hulk, Van Helsing, RoboCop, Total Recall, The Mummy, etc. that were/are going to be rebooted/remade, Bayformers seems like a similar candidate. There's just so many things that can be done differently (read: differently, not necessarily better or worse) with a reboot of our little robot toys. Plus, despite my enjoyment of Bayformers, I sort of see it as the Burton/Schumacher Batman movies and/or the Brosnan Bond films to their respective franchises. I would've thought that Bayformers would've been rebooted in 5-10 years time in a similar manner. But, what can you do... Granted, I'm in the small percentage of fans that'd be happy whether we got a fourth Bayformers or a reboot. I just want theatrical Transformers films, that's all.
RatTrap1985
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me! I don't, by any stretch, hate what the movies have brought to the table, but I will not spend anymore money to support them. I'm also disappointed in the fact that the magnificent member in boogie nights wasn't real.
RedAlert Rescue
So long as they put Mark singing "The Touch" in the end titles 'I'm good'
Dolza_Khyron
"you already know the date?"

"Yeah."

"Of course you do."

Not even they are believing Bay is giving a shit this time!
NeverDoubt
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Actually I was thinking more along the lines of someone ages 19-21. But then again, I would have dropped out of school in a heartbeat to make a cool million in a major motion picture. Im sure my parents would have concured. Ill have plenty of time to attend night school later on, with a fat bank account.
Good point, lol. Well, while I doubt Mark is supposed to be playing a teen, I don't feel like he's fresh and interesting anymore. Perhaps it's just bad memories of Planet of the Apes, lol.
MV95
Wait, July 4!? Why did it get pushed back a week??
AutoBobby
I wonder if we'll get a cameo by a certain talking teddy bear?
Kylehudson14
I still dont like Walberg in TF.
peaces
bay is a riot. love this guy. tf4 sounds promising. love marky mark. fuck shia.
Nexus Prime
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So long as they put Mark singing "The Touch" in the end titles 'I'm good'
I was waiting for someone to bring this up.

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