Megatron Back in Sequel with Tank Alternate Mode?

well, I was somewhat hoping for Megatron to blow away Starscream in a nice air chase scene. But I know a gun would be too much, so a Tank..run it.

Megatron is a flying tank.... Isn't the Fallen a tank too? A tank perpetually on fire? Just sounds really stupid.

lies!!


all lies!!!!!

10 bucks says bay denies the rumor

You don't think something that was perpetually on fire would look awesome?

remember kids nothing is set in stone yet.... it's not offical god i hope not
make megatron into a helicopter like in the antimated series

Yeah, that would look cool...like this, .

But how do you explain this? I'll be honest, never read the comics. Aside from the stupid titanium toy, I have no idea who the Fallen is.

I think that Starscream is the Fallen, and he scans a SR71.

Except lying to the comic press (not to mention their readership) as well as participating in a hoax for a movie that they're not involved in isn't particularly good business.

If Paramount and Hasbro didn't want things to get out, they'd just direct IDW to not say anything about Revenge of the Fallen.

So what's your theory:

a) Bay deliberately provided IDW with a fake script so they'd tell the press bullshit, and will later give them the real script. "Thanks guys, now here's the real deal." Likely?

b) IDW have the real script but have been told by Bay to lie about it to the press. That's not gonna backfire at IDW at all if it's the case. Nosiree.

Besides:

Does anyone else think even THINKING about using a comic book company that's going to release comic books based on the movie for a misinformation campaign sounds like something that's WAY above Bay's head?

All the speculation about this crap is getting old, fast.

Edit: Nvm. I'd rather NOT get into an argument about this.

My bet is the fallen isnt even in it and the term the fallen relates to megatron (and possibly jazz) and in this film megs comes back and kicks some autobot ass. As this is gonna be a trilogy it would be a good build up to the final film

exacltly wat I was trying to say ravenxl7

I'm not surprised if The Fallen character is in the movie. Bay is going to want something huge in this film and that would definitely be the way to go.

Even though there aren't any combiners in this movie, it would be sweet to see a Superion taking on The Fallen.

He's gone G2

The only way i can see megs doing the gun thing is if he transforms into a HUGE gun that only Devistator can hold. None of this shrink to a puny pee shooter mode. and even then it should be a 3rd "weapon" mode.

Sounds too kiddie and cliche, but I still hope the best.

BTW, if Megatron does have an arm "cannon" it will most likely be a mini gun.

:-D

Kinda lame.

Well if he is gonna be any kind of gun, he should be a huge artillary cannon. That would give him the mobility of a tank and a HUGE cannon, almost gun like, that would settle the major G1 fans.

They did it with Shockwave in the PSP version of the game, and they were both guns in G1, so it could work.

Why does Bay have give us a whole bunch of mis-information, its not like he is protecting government secrets!!!!

Well thats my thoughts, I just can't wait till the movie comes out.

So how do you explain the IDW interviews? Were those people deliberately lying to the press? Were they lied to by Bay? I don't get it.

Seriously. We're talking about Michael Bay here. While I love the first movie and will probably love the second one too, I don't believe a word this man is saying pre-release.

Let's just recap: On May 11, 2006, shortly after the first on-set photos of the vehicles that were to be in the first movie had popped up on the internet and rumors had started circulating about the alleged names of the characters they were supposed to represent, Bay claimed the following (Bay's site is currently down, the post can currently be found in Googe's cache):

So, let's see about this:

1) "Many of the names in the script are aliases."

Autobots? Never had any pre-release "aliases" circulating. The only name we ever heard that was not in the final movie was Arcee, and that was because she was written out of the script and replaced by Ironhide, as confirmed by the screenwriter about five million times.

Decepticons? Megatron and Starscream never had any "aliases" circulating either.

The others? Were either not based on any pre-existing characters at all other than their names ("Brawl" => Barricade, Bonecrusher), were pretty much non-characters ("Devastator" => "Demolisher" => Brawl => Devastator), replaced other characters originally planned in their place (Ravage => Scorponok) or were subject to numerous rewrites, redesigns and name changes ("Soundwave [1]" => "Grimlock" => "Vortex" => "Devastator" => "Incinerator" => Blackout, "Soundwave [2]" => "Boombot" => "Soundbyte" => Frenzy).

I'd say none of those were "aliases" in the sense of "we have a clear idea who these characters are supposed to be, but we won't let you know right now and we will use fake names to throw you off", but rather "We don't fully know what to do with these characters yet, so we might probably rename them later".

2) "So rest asured A.K.A Devastator, is not really Devastator."

Yes. Yes, Michael. Yes. Totally.

3) "These names will not be revealed until the toy boxes are printed."

Two words: "Decepticon Brawl."

4) "Something that the writers don't know"

To quote Bob Orci himself:

Why exactly am I supposed to buy into any of this "misinformation campaign" nonsense?

I currently have two early scripts for the first movie on my hard drive. Both were leaked long before the movie came out. Both were claimed to be fake at that time.

If those are fake, whoever came up with them should seriously try to predict the lottery numbers.

I, too, call "Shennanigans". I don't think "The Fallen" is a character. I agree that it would refer to Megatron and perhaps Jazz.

My hope was always that this movie would focus on Starscream (with a new, leader-class toy) with a tease at the end - say, Megatrons eyes lighting up in the murky depths just before the credits - and save a reborn Megatron(Galvatron) for the third installment - making a tidy trilogy. Oh, and the real Devastator (combiners and all).

PS: Megatron should never, ever, EVER, nev-a-nev, noover, neever, nevinsky, EVER be a firearm. It's just silly. Megatron shouldn't be a tank, either. If it has to be earth mode, then the stealth bomber is appropriate.

I like the idea of all of the primary Decepticons being airborne with, of course, an array of land-locked lackeys. I picture Barricade as basically someone who should have been an autobot but chose the other side instead, and is basically not held in as high a regard by his fellow Decepts. because he's just a filthy land-lubber like the Autobots. Bonecrusher and Brawl I count as being so brainless they are basically more like tools of Megatron then particularly sentient beings.

Ha. Ironic I used "Quick Reply" to post this. Sorry.

Awww, i don't like that idea. I was sorta hoping for Megatron to stay a flier Transformer.

if you remember bay said stuff will leak that will not be true

No, we don't remember any of this, and we haven't been arguing it for the past 14 pages or so either.

he said on his site scripts will be leaked.. i think this is too

as interesting as it sounds, i don't really buy it.. why go to the trouble of making up your own story when you've already made the film by chopping up pre-made stuff and could easily make the other 2 films by adapting other bits of story from the series or films

Isn't it rather... quick? Probably rumours...

Hopefully, it'll be a Cybertronian tank, but I guess if they need an instrument against the Fallen, then I guess Meggie would be it.

I smell a faux leak. You can tell because it smells like meat loaf. I have it on good authority that Michael Bay smells like meat loaf. And he didn't even use a new faux leak; it's a left-over from the first movie when they said Megs was gonna be a tank. So that makes it left-over meat loaf; a one year old left-over meat loaf. Igh, someone get the trash bin.

Personally, I want to see The Fallen in the sequal. Megatron can stay dead for this as far as I care and be resurected in the third. I wanna see a flaming Transformer dammit! Or at least blow up another furby truck; I'd settle for that. Or better yet, make it a Bratz truck! Or Hanna Montanna. Or a Hanna Montanna Furbie dressed like a Bratz doll.

Even if all these rumors are all fake like Bay claims (*snerk*) I don't really care. He's doing us all a huuuge favor in my opinion; keeping us from spoiling ourselves and giving ourselves cinematic cavities. Personally for me, with the first movie, it lacked a lot of wonderlust because I pretty much knew EVERYTHING that I was going to see. Reading leaked scripts will do that...reading leaked scripts repeatedly even more so. I was actually disapointed they changed the electricution bit from Jazz to Ratchet.

Michael Bay: "Well we can't electricute and kill off the black robot. People will start to wonder if we have alterior motives for our hidden agenda!"

okay, that was funny.

From now on, I'm gonna post "I smell Meat loaf" whenever I think a remor is fake.

Guys, all this talk of IDW not knowingly passing on misinformation, or Bay not being smart enough to use them like that is all pointless.

Has it not occured to anyone that Megatron IS The Fallen? Perhaps when he is resurrected with the power of the Allspark, and returns as a new super-badass Megatron he refers to himself as The Fallen?

That way IDW can easily tell everyone there is a character called The Fallen in the movie without lying and without giving the game away, thus keeping us all guessing at the same time.

I agree with anyone else that says it is unlikely a character would be introduced in the second movie as someone out for revenge when nobody will have the faintest clue who he is outside of the super-nerds who know all the canon.

Can you imagine Star Wars Episode 5 being sub-titled The Empire Strikes Back, but without even the merest hint of the Empire in Episode 4? The idea is absurd, period.

That's EXACTLY what I've been thinking. The Fallen that they're referring to is most likely just Megatron coming back from the dead to get revenge. Would be interesting if him and Prime were actually "brothers", giving that line towards the end of the first movie and their fighting each other more background and meaning. Either way Hasbro did trademark the name, so we're going to see a new toy made for the Fallen in one of the lines in the next year or so. I won't be surprised if it ends up being a Universe toy.

Thats hilarious. It should be quoted in the first post of every one of these rumor threads.

Could be a clever MB spin job too.
Or maybe Unicron is going to show up?
Maybe MB will get his Aircraft carrier sized villain transformer that would require a Cube energized Megatron to concur.
The double crossing of and killing Prime sounds plausible too. The 2nd movie of a trilogy is usually a downer.
In any case I just can't imagine Megatron not coming back after merging/melting/blending/alloying with most of the cube.
Too bad the boy didn't do as Prime said and stuffed the cube into his spark instead. I got the impression that Prime thought it was going to get complicated with Megatron getting the cube.

It's all interesting, but I can not get myself to believe any of the "leaked" information that has been coming out. I won't let Mr. Bay mess with my head with false intel.

Meh, I'm not buying any news from TF2! We can't trust anything anymore unless it's a real picture not touched by a editing program.

I doubt The Fallen is a character at all and I doubt the return of Megatron all together!

I say it's the Autobots vs. the fallen Decepticon empire *lead by Starscream* (who in the first film outnumbered the Autobots, had more fire power and brute force only to get spanked by some fleshbags and two teenagers).

megatron and black out is returning

maybe the power of the allspark got shifted into megatron or something, and they need that power to stop the fallen.

Im not ready to believe that all that power from the allspark just dispersed in that small 10 second moment of melting into megatrons chest.

Megatron returns and his new alt mode is the ice cream truck.

and kids come up and he transforms scaring them

Well, theres many ways of looking at it... like perhaps The Fallen is seeking revenge for something that happened prior to TF1, but will be explained in TF2... not that difficult or unreasonable really.

i definitely disagree. i've said it many times before i think that referring to Megatron as "the Fallen" seems kinda dumb to me. and i am totally convinced 149% the it is the actual character "The Fallen".

interesting thought, but i just don't think they'd do that.

Count me in the camp that considers the possibility of Megatron as "The Fallen," but as Nevermore has pointed out with Furman, Milne, and Mowry's recent IDW interview, it does strongly appear that "The Fallen" will most likely be the flaming oven dude from War Within: The Dark Ages miniseries.

I'm guessing the destruction of the Allspark caused some kind of cosmic imbalance, resulting in some kind of globe trottin' goose chase to prevent the arrival of "The Fallen."

ugh yeah im kind of hoping megs is the fallen, i mean it only makes since, how can someone else return who was never there to leave or be defeated....also the way they nailed Megs as super eveil in the first one id hope he would NEVER ally in the second one

which will of course be fruitless, and then a very angry flaming robot is going to rip some autobots in half.

same here, and i loved the alleged sequal script, i mean ultra magnus, hot rod, and devastator....cant go wrong there, also bay adresses Devastator point blank and then says somthing perposterous.....so who knows

i think these movies have more hype than most i can ever think of, theres not this much garbage for Marvel movies or DC....

I'll only get excited when I see that the transformers faces aren't hedious..they don't have to be human...just not herendous!

I still think the "Fallen" is referring to Megatron...

I knew it, this movie is going with the same storyline as X-MEN 2. Consider this movie TF2 United. I think that would be awesome seeing Megatron team up with the Autobots to rip The Fallen a new one.

No way that this is true.

Read the most recent comments from Tyrese Gibson: "The conflict between the robots and the humans [is more angry]," Gibson adds. "The stakes have been brought up to a whole nother level. The conflicts between the humans and the Decepticons and then the conflict between the Autobots and the Decepticons. It's just more angry."...