 | |  | | | | | Megatron a Major Player in Transformers 2 | | Posted on 02-16-2009 at 10:11 AM by Tony_Bacala | So, with all the things floating around the internet recently, along with some deductive reasoning from Toy Fair this weekend, we here at TFW2005 are going out on a limb and saying that Megatron will have a role in Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, and most likely have more than a cameo or end-of-movie type appearance. Rather, a full on real deal role.
Many hardcore fans already know, or have deducted this by now from various sources, for various reasons. We know, we aren't trying to say we saw footage and got a signed letter from Michael Bay or anything, or that we are smarter than you. Trying to round things up for the casual fans too, ya know So, check out these things from today:
Megatron was seen as an 8 foot tall high-resolution promotional image at Toy Fair today. His full body CGI render was movie quality, not the adjusted lower level version seen on the Activision site in earlier weeks. This CGI render was not an adjusted version of his old form, but rather his all new form - a Tank. There are multiple toys in multiple size classes of him turning into a tank (leaked from China for like 2 years now), with matching hand drawn concept sketches.
Also seen today was an outline of a "New Character" in keychain form, which when looked at closely is an exact match of the outline to the CGI of Megatron seen in large poster form. That CGI features his tank tread feet, altered shoulder, and adjusted "pointy-er" head.
So, why would the folks at the various companies, third party licenses, and studios spend time rendering movie quality high res images, and use them to promote a toy line to fans, kids, and potential retail buyers of their product for the coming year, if it was a secondary or minor-screen time character?
Because they aren't trying to give away already leaked major characters and need something recognizable to push? Secret characters like the ones that will be seen in various promo footage being shown to retailers and industry people this week? Or rather, because he is a major player, will be in the movie via a significant role, and they are just trying to keep a lid on things. And maybe spin us super smart(ass) fans around for a while? You be the judge. Some pretty images are attached to see some of the things I am talking about.
Enjoy, bitch, moan, yell at us, etc by hitting discuss.
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I think the movie would more than likely suck if Megatron wasn't a major player but thats just my opinion.
Hobbes-timus Prime:
I'm good with or without Megs in the movie, but I'm pretty much convinced he's in it at this point.
iheartarcee: Quote: |
Enjoy, bitch, moan, yell at us, etc by hitting discuss.
| Enjoy: I love this site. I enjoy the color scheme. The story to this thread was well written.
bitch: my back hurts.
Moan: oooooooooaaawwwwwwwwmmmmmmmmmaaoaooooo!!
Yell at us: LIKE THIS?!?!?!?! ALL HAIL MEGATRON TFW!!!
Santoanderson:
Someone should ask Michael Bay what his stance on the whole Megatron issue is. If he's smart, he'll raise his hands up and say, "I lied!"
Tfgraveyard:
I gotta agree with Tony.
Also, didn't Hasbro say that they wouldn't make a larger figure unless it was strongly tied into the fiction? If the Leader class Megatron that's coming out does turn into a tank(and it very well might, as i'm not completely up on what all has been seen for upcoming toys), i'd bet money that it would be in the movie.
Staxeon:
It will be revealed at the end that he's really the dead one, and only Haley Joel Osment can see him.
Santoanderson:
PS, Megs is in the trailer... Sideswipe1125:
Just a random question ? Does anyone know if any other autobots or decepticons (example hound, wheeljack, prowl, dirge, astrotrain, blitzwing) are in the movie because I haven't heard many other Decepticons mentioned other than the ones we know of.
Paradigm-Shift Prime:
I still wasn't sure what to think for Megs, but with all his appearances was starting to lean towards this conclusion. Earlier on I thought maybe just a last 15-20 minutes of the movie type thing.
imo Megs having a big role would be great. It is Transformers and all, you know, Megs vs. Prime and such. The Fallen and making other characters more abscure/less meaningful to the tf paradigm characters such as Jolt and Mudflap made me hope they wouldn't stray too far from the traditional tf-verse (i.e. now maybe Megs vs. Starscream can get the further development it deserves).
'Enjoy, bitch, moan, yell at us, etc by hitting discuss.' Quote:
Originally Posted by iheartarcee Enjoy: I love this site. I enjoy the color scheme. The story to this thread was well written.
bitch: my back hurts.
Moan: oooooooooaaawwwwwwwwmmmmmmmmmaaoaooooo!!
Yell at us: LIKE THIS?!?!?!?! ALL HAIL MEGATRON TFW!!! | Lolz.
Yeah the admin/mods must have had a rough day. With the Devi and such hopefully some of the general negative feedback is understandable. (other than the over-the-top stuff, hopefully you guys don't think of everyone as just bitching and moaning, even when critical opinions of the toys are expressed  )
megatronkicksas:
i can see clearly now the rain is gone
Hydrobot:
I wonder, does anyone think he'll be called galvatron?
wanoreck:
I have a feeling either he's going to be in a dream sequence or show up at the end of the movie kind of like Captian Balbosa in Pirates of the Carribean II
zeroXII:
Never even doubted it for a second. It would've made sense to have him in the sequel anyway. After all, they never really die, do they?
[Wing_Saber-X]:
Umm, yeah.  Bingo about knowing that ol' Megs wouldnt just lie down and DIE ya know?  >THIS. No issues there, DoOds! No bitching from me!  Mods, have a cookie on me, you guys had an extreamly ROUGH day..... megatronkicksas:
Any chance this is just bay being a doosh and leaking all this stuff?
tkw4rr10r:
Bay didn't 'lie'. He stated -Megatron- was not in the movie.
There's a reason why one the keychain pictures states 'new character' for his silhouette.
It's been stated before and I'll state it again: HE COMES BACK AS GALVATRON.
This mystery has been solved eons ago. But there will still be people dismissing it, just like the fallen and devastator debates before it.
JonnyBoy: Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrobot I wonder, does anyone think he'll be called galvatron? | Yeah my thoughts aswell and seen it discussed a few times before. His new tank form fits in a little more with the canon form of Galvatron. Could also explain why Bay keeps saying Megatron is not in this movie cause its actually Galvatron. Bay can turn around and say "told you so" if it is Galvatron. Either way its pretty obvious he's back as Megatron or Galvatron.
aussieprime:
I think it would be silly not to have him in as a major part, although I am worried about him Devastator and The Fallen all trying to get decent screen time.
Plus if I remember correctly an early rumour of Scorp giving up his spark to revive Megs could be true since we saw the 'sand clawer' in the trailer.
Also the Galvatron thing sounds right, but i hope its not coz it means he will spend more time as Galvatron than Megatron in the movieverse.
MEGAMAN X FAN: Quote:
Originally Posted by tkw4rr10r the movie.
HE COMES BACK AS GALVATRON.
. | that would be like bumblebee changing his name after scanning the concept camaro
Turbocharger:
So much for Megatron just standing in the background yelling "IGNORE ME!"
Staxeon: Quote:
Originally Posted by MEGAMAN X FAN that would be like bumblebee changing his name after scanning the concept camaro | Bumblebee didn't have the allspark shoved into his chest and then get dumped under a mile of ocean.
13eelzebub:
I remember when michael bay promised optimus prime wouldnt have lips... megatronkicksas: Quote:
Originally Posted by MEGAMAN X FAN that would be like bumblebee changing his name after scanning the concept camaro | You clearly aren't familiar with the starting simalarities that would create sucha situation.
1. G1 megs died, bayformers megs died
2. Ancient transformer in G1 movie, ancient transformer in bayformers movie
3. both got new alt modes
Pretty good chance of him being Galvatron if you ask me... but then again bay has been quoted saying "the old cartoons make me sick" in an interview so who knows?
Vladakris:
I hope not Galvatron is such a shity name, no offence to people who like it. Plus he hasnt changed enough, and his name has been plastered and packaged as Megatron. So I hope it will stay megatron/
artoni:
Does anyone have a full picture of his new form, rather than just the snippits linked on the FP news? (I'm not expecting a CGI render but a picture of the stand would be nice.)
Or can someone try piecing them together?
JonnyBoy:
They just look too similar. My money is on Galvatron based on the similarities and that Bay says no Megatron. Ive lost bets before but hey its a close match.
mizuki088:
Plot:
After the Fallen defeated, the Earth went peace. After the credit, in the dark, there is a black tank rolling and transformed in to Megatron with Red Eyes.
Blam!! Transformers 3: Revenge of Megatron!!!
Santoanderson:
Haven't all the leaked toy pics (with packaging) with his new mode referred to him as Megatron?
wanoreck: Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyBoy
They just look too similar. My money is on Galvatron based on the similarities and that Bay says no Megatron. Ive lost bets before but hey its a close match. | I have to admit After these pics I'm sold on the Galvatron Idea
Santoanderson:
Meh, outside of the perspective and the smooth shape of the cannon, I see no similarities between those two pics.
MEGAMAN X FAN: Quote:
Originally Posted by megatronkicksas You clearly aren't familiar with the starting simalarities that would create sucha situation.
1. G1 megs died, bayformers megs died
2. Ancient transformer in G1 movie, ancient transformer in bayformers movie
3. both got new alt modes
Pretty good chance of him being Galvatron if you ask me... but then again bay has been quoted saying "the old cartoons make me sick" in an interview so who knows? | but at least galvatron in the cartoon looked different from megatron. it would be stupid to change his name when he looks identical except for the tank mode
Roook:
On one hand I can see why Hasbro would go through all this effort. They might put him in the game, and he might show up in a dream sequence or flashback, like back in Egyptian times. And hey, they're still going to release toys based on him, he's freakin Megatron!
But on the other hand, I saw him in the trailer.
firehawc_69:
I'm saying no to Galvatron. I'm thinking the "No Megs" statement by Bay was his big "misinformation" campaign.
Staxeon: Quote:
Originally Posted by Santoanderson Haven't all the leaked toy pics (with packaging) with his new mode referred to him as Megatron? | "Brawl" on packages = "Devestator" in the first movie so who knows.
I'm still wondering how they're gonna explain that one come the second movie.
Starscreamer95:
There can be no Transformers movie/story without a Megatron.
Anyway, I`m happy to see more of ROTF Megs
Roook:
and if you look in the trailer, he's all rusty. so I think that's because he was chillin at the bottom of the ocean for awhile.
tkw4rr10r:
Seems a few corrected MEGAMAN X FAN before I saw the post. But I digress:
"that would be like bumblebee changing his name after scanning the concept camaro"
- Bumblebee only changed from one year of a model car to another, and his robot mode only changed cosmetically with that adjustment.
- Barricade is rumored to change sometime in the movie to the audi from the previous mustang altform, and his name hasn't changed. (I still think its a different bot BTW) So that angle of your argument makes no sense.
- Megs got KILLED then brought back to life, and now is a tank instead of a jet. Anyone knowing even the very basic of TF histories knows him being renamed Galvatron isn't a stretch in the slightest.
- Nothing is final from the toy packaging we've seen to this point. Until someone finds a RETAIL ROTF toy saying Megatron nothing is confirmed.
"but at least galvatron in the cartoon looked different from megatron"
Have you SEEN a side by side of the old form and new form? Skinny arm aside, they're not exactly 'twins'. Anyone else notice the crown shape in his head like the G1 counterpart?
tkw4rr10r:
Seems a few corrected MEGAMAN X FAN before I saw the post. But I digress:
"that would be like bumblebee changing his name after scanning the concept camaro"
- Bumblebee only changed from one year of a model car to another, and his robot mode only changed cosmetically with that adjustment.
- Barricade is rumored to change sometime in the movie to the audi from the previous mustang altform, and his name hasn't changed. (I still think its a different bot BTW) So that angle of your argument makes no sense.
- Megs got KILLED then brought back to life, and now is a tank instead of a jet. Anyone knowing even the very basic of TF histories knows him being renamed Galvatron isn't a stretch in the slightest.
- Nothing is final from the toy packaging we've seen to this point. Until someone finds a RETAIL ROTF toy saying Megatron nothing is confirmed.
"but at least galvatron in the cartoon looked different from megatron"
Have you SEEN a side by side of the old form and new form? Skinny arm aside, they're not exactly 'twins'. Anyone else notice the crown shape in his head like the G1 counterpart?
Starscreamer95: Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyBoy
They just look too similar. My money is on Galvatron based on the similarities and that Bay says no Megatron. Ive lost bets before but hey its a close match. | You know, I think you may be on to something here...
I mean, it makes sense... alot
firehawc_69: Quote:
Originally Posted by Staxeon "Brawl" on packages = "Devestator" in the first movie so who knows.
I'm still wondering how they're gonna explain that one come the second movie. | They won't. They'll ignore it away just like all the other plot holes, like how was Ratchet "still working" on BB's voice when he had just arrived to earth minutes before...
tkw4rr10r:
Sorry for the Double post. I only hit submit once, I swear :-)
megatronkicksas: Quote:
Originally Posted by MEGAMAN X FAN but at least galvatron in the cartoon looked different from megatron. it would be stupid to change his name when he looks identical except for the tank mode | Are you even listening to yourself?
new 
old Sso02V: Quote:
Originally Posted by firehawc_69 They won't. They'll ignore it away just like all the other plot holes, like how was Ratchet "still working" on BB's voice when he had just arrived to earth minutes before... | Yeah, it's not like they've known each-other for thousands, if not millions of years.
Starscreamer95: Quote:
Originally Posted by tkw4rr10r Seems a few corrected MEGAMAN X FAN before I saw the post. But I digress:
"that would be like bumblebee changing his name after scanning the concept camaro"
- Bumblebee only changed from one year of a model car to another, and his robot mode only changed cosmetically with that adjustment.
- Barricade is rumored to change sometime in the movie to the audi from the previous mustang altform, and his name hasn't changed. (I still think its a different bot BTW) So that angle of your argument makes no sense.
- Megs got KILLED then brought back to life, and now is a tank instead of a jet. Anyone knowing even the very basic of TF histories knows him being renamed Galvatron isn't a stretch in the slightest.
- Nothing is final from the toy packaging we've seen to this point. Until someone finds a RETAIL ROTF toy saying Megatron nothing is confirmed.
"but at least galvatron in the cartoon looked different from megatron"
Have you SEEN a side by side of the old form and new form? Skinny arm aside, they're not exactly 'twins'. Anyone else notice the crown shape in his head like the G1 counterpart? | Thank you... I thought I was alone for a second...
firehawc_69: Quote:
Originally Posted by firehawc_69 I'm saying no to Galvatron. I'm thinking the "No Megs" statement by Bay was his big "misinformation" campaign. | Actually, I take it back. They're gonna try it, and it'll be a swing and a miss. He's more like G2 Megs than Galvatron in bot perspective, but more like Galvatron in alt/origin perspective.
Yeah, I'm on the fence for speculation on this...
firehawc_69: Quote:
Originally Posted by Sso02V Yeah, it's not like they've known each-other for thousands, if not millions of years. | How did he get his voice back? While Starscream was bombing the crap out of him? The comic continuity said he lost his voice in battle on Earth. Ratchet wasn't here yet.
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