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Mark Wahlberg Explains The Backstory Of His Character For Transformers 4 Age Of Extinction

Posted on 12-23-2013 at 07:33 PM by SilverOptimus under Transformers Movie (Just Movie) (All Transformers Movie News)
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Actor Mark Wahlberg elaborated bit more on the backstory of Cade Yeager; his character for Transformers: Age Of Extinction. The following does not contain any robot info but a Spoiler warning is in order:

"With Transformers: Age of Extinction, did you agree to do that one for your kids?

Well, it was exciting because it was the first time my kids were really interested in a movie I was doing. Any time they see me with a gun, like Contraband or Pain & Gain, they want to see that, too, but they can’t because of the language and all that stuff. But I loved working with Michael Bay, and I thought he had a really interesting way to make it new, different, and fresh. Plus, being in movies that have the potential to be hugely successful allows me to make smaller movies that I’m really passionate about.

What’s going to make this Transformers different? The first one was OK, but then the sequels were a total mess.

It was a tighter script, and its own stand-alone thing. I think the emotional core of it, the human element, is going to be extremely powerful. It’s an ordinary man trying to do extraordinary things to save his daughter and keep her alive—and this boyfriend he didn’t know anything about. He’d had a child when he was in high school and his wife passed away, and the promise he’d made to her was that she wouldn’t date any boys until she graduated and that she’d be at the graduation—because we weren’t due to the pregnancy. So there’s an anchor to it and a realness to it that I like a lot.

[Then, an assistant comes in and places a brace around Wahlberg’s neck.]

I hurt my neck in Hong Kong, and it hasn’t gotten better yet. I just woke up in the morning and couldn’t move, but still had to shoot 10 days of crazy action."
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C16
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It was a tighter script, and its own stand-alone thing. I think the emotional core of it, the human element, is going to be extremely powerful. It’s
I'm so glad that in a film about Transformers, that this is the focus.

tonyformer
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Originally Posted by C16 View Post
I'm so glad that in a film about Transformers, that this is the focus.

You have to keep in mind that no matter what, the core of the movie-verse takes place on Earth so at the core of any TF movie, you have the humans. The human element is always going to be the core of the story as long as Earth continues to be the main stage.
Slayershoop
Wait, Wait...so all the other Marky Mark movies were inappropriate for his children, but Michael Bay's movies which include humping and robo testicles are? Errr...ok then
eagc7
i am liking what i am hearing

unlike most ppl i am indeed into in the human element in the TF movies. its not a big loss for me if the tfs arent the focus, it never bothered me
MasterZero
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Originally Posted by Slayershoop View Post
Wait, Wait...so all the other Marky Mark movies were inappropriate for his children, but Michael Bay's movies which include humping and robo testicles are? Errr...ok then
Well in Fear, he was a creepy rapist, scary guy
Slayershoop
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Well in Fear, he was a creepy rapist, scary guy
So he's being typecast?
NotRamjet97
We shall see...
MasterZero
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Originally Posted by Slayershoop View Post
So he's being typecast?
If he is to be typecasted, I want it to either be as a rapper, or something to do with his third nipple.
puma
Did any one see 2 Guns earlier this year? That was awesome.
Slayershoop
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If he is to be typecasted, I want it to either be as a rapper, or something to do with his third nipple.
Third nipple needs to be a plot element XD
MV95
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Originally Posted by Slayershoop View Post
Wait, Wait...so all the other Marky Mark movies were inappropriate for his children, but Michael Bay's movies which include humping and robo testicles are? Errr...ok then
just1nj
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Did any one see 2 Guns earlier this year? That was awesome.
It was good. Slowly started to suck as the movie went on.
fallen_revenge
Looks like it will have some good human element in it, but I don't want human element bullshit throughout the whole movie.
nobleboivin
So basically this movie is going to be no different then the other three. How is this a Reboot than?
LDM
Yes! Good human element!! Finally!!

Wait this is the transformer movie??

Sigh....
MasterZero
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Originally Posted by nobleboivin View Post
So basically this movie is going to be no different then the other three. How is this a Reboot than?
Its not a reboot. The other movies are still in continuity.
PlanckEpoch
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Originally Posted by nobleboivin View Post
So basically this movie is going to be no different then the other three. How is this a Reboot than?
NEW DESIGNS!!

Just kidding. I thought we knew by now this movie was a continuation?

Anyways I still express surprise that people think the movies will NOT be about humans? Do you honestly think anyone is going to go with that route? Like it or hate it humans are here to stay.
eagc7
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Anyways I still express surprise that people think the movies will NOT be about humans? Do you honestly think anyone is going to go with that route? Like it or hate it humans are here to stay.
this.

if you guys want a transformers centered movie, wait till they make an new Animated tf film
MasterZero
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Originally Posted by PlanckEpoch View Post
NEW DESIGNS!!

Just kidding. I thought we knew by now this movie was a continuation?

Anyways I still express surprise that people think the movies will NOT be about humans? Do you honestly think anyone is going to go with that route? Like it or hate it humans are here to stay.
You tell'em Applejack.
Underwear
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Originally Posted by eagc7 View Post
i am liking what i am hearing

unlike most ppl i am indeed into in the human element in the TF movies. its not a big loss for me if the tfs arent the focus, it never bothered me
Well if that's the case we might as well remove the dialogue & just add the robots when there's action only.

Would be awesome to see the TFs be mute.
Ironhide1706
If he's that excited about having his kids see it, perhaps there might not be so much language and inappropriate jokes. I'm sure he wouldn't be making those comments if there were lots of those kinds of things, like in ROTF.
PlanckEpoch
I'll just expand upon my thoughts.

The new wave of fans attracted by the movies are a lot different than the fans like me who grew up watching the G1 cartoon. When I was a kid, the concept with Transformers is that the robots were the star of the show and that the humans were sidekicks. This was a matter of course...cartoons then were made to peddle toys, and you put the toys at the forefront so you could attract the viewer and then garner sales that way.

Movies have always been different though. Movies never really had to worry about being 2 hour long commercials. They were stories through and through. The thing about movies though is that you need to attract the viewer and keep them hooked throughout. We talk about how good characterization is important, and we also talk about how it is important to have the audience be able to relate to the characters so they feel invested in the story.

It's hard for humans to relate to things that aren't human. That's why humans are in Transformers. It's not just plot but just how people get invested into stories. I guarantee you that this is something that Bay and the writers think about when these movies were in pre-production...the Transformers movies are every bit a struggle to succeed against despair...that's somethign that a lot of us can relate to as we may have been in that kind of emotional state at some point in our lives. It's that relation to the story that keeps us hooked and watching.

Now it doesn't always work. I am not easily manipulated by my pathos for instance. But for the movie going masses this stuff can be pretty effective.

I think TF4 is pretty blatant proof that the Transformers movies have never been about the Transformers. It's been about the interaction of Transformers(alien invaders) and us. The Decepticons clearly want to subjugate or kill us, and the Autobots protect us, but they do so because of THEIR war. So in a way the Autobots can be seen as just a lesser evil to some people if you wish to view it as such.
FanimusMaximus
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I think the emotional core of it, the human element, is going to be extremely powerful.
F*ck.
PlanckEpoch
^ Transformers getting bodied by humans. It's happened in 3 movies. Won't be surprised if it happened in a 4th.
FanimusMaximus
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^ Transformers getting bodied by humans. It's happened in 3 movies. Won't be surprised if it happened in a 4th.
Might as well call it Transformers 4: WE DIDN'T CHANGE SHIT!!!
Spider 001
Every one of these movie threads is exactly the same! Who fucking cares anymore?


And when I say "every one" I mean starting with the 1st movie back in 2006. Repeat repeat repeat, nothing ever changes.
MasterZero
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Every one of these movie threads is exactly the same! Who fucking cares anymore?


And when I say "every one" I mean starting with the 1st movie back in 2006. Repeat repeat repeat, nothing ever changes.
That.....that would be very weird if that were true.
tonyformer
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Originally Posted by Spider 001 View Post
Every one of these movie threads is exactly the same! Who fucking cares anymore?


And when I say "every one" I mean starting with the 1st movie back in 2006. Repeat repeat repeat, nothing ever changes.
and yet here you are pointing out the obvious why? OH! because nothing ever changes
harrismonkey
Not that I expected much (I didn't), but explanation of his character's motivations is even more ridiculous, melodramatic and unbelieveable than Shia's in most of these movies.

Besides, what i want is less human developement and more robot character development. The biggest change in this movie appears to be the new He-Man inspired robot designs.

Up to this point I've really liked most of the movie design work. It's too early to know about this movie, but the early signs aren't encouraging. (who am I kidding? I'll lap it up anyhow)
Jaydenthetank
I want no more humans, just TRANSFRIGGENFORMERS!
Fanatic97
Hey fellows?

Did anyone else NOT SEE THAT IT SAID THAT HE HAD A DAUGHTER IN HIGH SCHOOL!?!?!?
Timothy.R
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Not that I expected much (I didn't), but explanation of his character's motivations is even more ridiculous, melodramatic and unbelieveable than Shia's in most of these movies.

Besides, what i want is less human developement and more robot character development. The biggest change in this movie appears to be the new He-Man inspired robot designs.

Up to this point I've really liked most of the movie design work. It's too early to know about this movie, but the early signs aren't encouraging. (who am I kidding? I'll lap it up anyhow)
yeah, i too loved the robot designs in the previous movies.. ESPECIALLY the faces of the decepticons.. they were so bad ass looking.. but from what i've seen so far, it seems like the robots are losing even more of their vehicle parts in robot mode.. they should really call them "transmorphers" at this point.. for me, transformers were awesome because they were vehicles (or objects) that turned into robots based on that vehicle.. now it just looks like they're vehicles that turn into robots that just happen to be colored like their alt mode.

but like you.. i'll probably lap it up too. but i'm hoping for other characters to have more decreeable alt mode parts on their robot modes.

i've heard a TON of complaints from hardcore fans, and just your average movie goers that the designs have been too complex that it's difficult to follow during fight sequences.. i have a feeling that those fans who thought the previous designs were hard to follow are going to find the new ones practically unwatchable.

also.. he says that the emotional core involving the humans is going to be powerful.. well, that's EXACTLY the opposite of what everyone wants. this movie is called TRANSFORMERS.. we want to care about the TRANSFORMERS. in dotm ironhides death could've been much more dramatic had we had more time to get to know him.

the only scenario that i'd be okay with the emotional core not involving the robots is if, like in G1, there were just SO many characters that not all of them had a good chunk of screen time, but there was a robot in almost every scene.. otherwise, i want to care about the robots... not another shitty human story.

just about every movie out there has a story involving humans that you care about.. but when it comes to a TRANSFORMERS movie, they're the ones i want to care about.
HereticalHeresy
Yay... more human news...

BeeOtch217
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Did any one see 2 Guns earlier this year? That was awesome.
"I count six shots" " I count two guns"
Decepticons
Do you all not understand that it is incredibly expensive to animate our favorite robots in disguise into reality and make it look believable and amazing beyond belief? Humans are included in the various iterations in order to give the audience something to connect to, as I'm positive you are all aware of.

There's no denying that we need stellar Transformer character development in these films, because we were only rewarded with the extravagant characterization of Optimus Prime and Bumblebee. Others had some hints or were coming close to developing personalities, but it wasn't explored upon to the fullest.

The only two things I sincerely want from Age of Extinction is an ambitious plot (something that will finally punch the hell out of critics and pompous moviegoers) and character development amongst the Transformers themselves.
Decepticons
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yeah, i too loved the robot designs in the previous movies.. ESPECIALLY the faces of the decepticons.. they were so bad ass looking.. but from what i've seen so far, it seems like the robots are losing even more of their vehicle parts in robot mode.. they should really call them "transmorphers" at this point.. for me, transformers were awesome because they were vehicles (or objects) that turned into robots based on that vehicle.. now it just looks like they're vehicles that turn into robots that just happen to be colored like their alt mode.

but like you.. i'll probably lap it up too. but i'm hoping for other characters to have more decreeable alt mode parts on their robot modes.

i've heard a TON of complaints from hardcore fans, and just your average movie goers that the designs have been too complex that it's difficult to follow during fight sequences.. i have a feeling that those fans who thought the previous designs were hard to follow are going to find the new ones practically unwatchable.
I too love the designs from the live-action films. They just look and feel more like functioning robotic aliens to me instead of looking like tables with arms, legs, and heads. However, agreed; the design team seems to making the Transformers' inner protoform-ness come out (it's difficult to explain; kind of like their inner workings). I hope the Decepticon do more this time around and are badass, like their designs present them to be.

After seeing Optimus's new redesign, which I love, I'm kind of lingering on whether or not the Transformers will have their vehicle parts on their robot modes. Hopefully, they will.

I honestly don't understand why die-hard G1 fans continuously make the bastardization claims against the live-action films simply because of design. There's nothing strenuous about telling them apart, for me personally anyways. Even my friends, who aren't excessive TF fans like myself, find it incredibly easy to tell them apart. Do you find it difficult?
Shark
So far I like the father-daughter thing they're going for here.
Yeah, I want more info on the bots as much as everyone else, but since I know that this movie will focus on the humans a lot, and also since this is a new human cast, I want to know what we're gonna be dealing with ahead of time. If there are more characters that will annoy the heck out of me, I feel like I should mentally prepare myself while I still can. lol
Galvatron II
I'm sorry, but the "audiences can't relate to non-humans!" argument is and always has been some old bullshit. Look at Avatar, for Christ's sake! Or Wall-E! He's not humanoid and he can't speak, but people still relate to him and his adventures!

It's about humanizing them, giving them understandable desires and realistic characterization, no matter how fantastical they or the world they live in are.

And the "Transformers can't be the focus because it would be too expensive!" argument is partially true. Bayverse Transformers can't the focus of a film. Ironhide's cannons had 10,000 CGI parts each. Did they need all of that? Heeeeeeeell no. Did it improve your experience in any way?

It's for bragging rights, plain and simple. "Oh, yeah, your talking polar bears looked SO good. Say, how many CGI parts were used for them? Oh, yeah, that's about as many as one of our guy's guns."

Combine the needless waste of money on that with the overcomplicated aesthetic, and of course you can't focus on the TFs.

Now, if the designs were more streamlined- like the Don Figueroa IDW designs, not like the G1 cartoon, obviously, don't come at me with that- And the CG was used more economically, you'd really make things more feasible.

And, make shorter movies, say, 90 minutes rather than 150, spend aome of that time developing the TFs as characters, and a movie with 50-50 focus doesn't seem quite so impossible.

Or, lol at GEEWHINERS, I guess.
ErbFan28
I hope this is the case. I want to actually care about the characters
Beachscreamer
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Originally Posted by Decepticons View Post
Do you all not understand that it is incredibly expensive to animate our favorite robots in disguise into reality and make it look believable and amazing beyond belief? Humans are included in the various iterations in order to give the audience something to connect to, as I'm positive you are all aware of.

There's no denying that we need stellar Transformer character development in these films, because we were only rewarded with the extravagant characterization of Optimus Prime and Bumblebee. Others had some hints or were coming close to developing personalities, but it wasn't explored upon to the fullest.

The only two things I sincerely want from Age of Extinction is an ambitious plot (something that will finally punch the hell out of critics and pompous moviegoers) and character development amongst the Transformers themselves.
Thank you. My thoughts and wishes exactly. I seriously hope this movie has some better developed Transformers.
Timothy.R
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Originally Posted by Decepticons View Post
Do you all not understand that it is incredibly expensive to animate our favorite robots in disguise into reality and make it look believable and amazing beyond belief? Humans are included in the various iterations in order to give the audience something to connect to, as I'm positive you are all aware of.
do YOU not understand how much these movies have made.. and how much this movie will make? .. they make a ton of money.. a TON.. so, i'm pretty sure they could expand the budget to add some more robot scenes.. or have the robots be front and center throughout the movie.

people don't need humans to be the main focus of something for them to "connect" to it.. hell, this whole entire franchise is based upon connecting to the actual transformers.. sure spike, sparkplug, and chip were in the tv show, and later daniel.. but they weren't the main focus of the show.. i don't believe anyone had trouble connecting to the transformers then..

what about toy story? .. sure andy was in it.. but for the majority of the movie the toys were the main focus.

or finding nemo.. there were a couple humans, but the majority of the story centered around fish.. if they can get people to care about fish, i think doing the same with a robot would be rather easy to accomplish.

people don't need humans in a show or a movie to connect to it.. it'd be just as easy to connect to a robot in a movie as it would be a human.. they just need to make us care about the robot the same way they would a human.

i'm not saying humans shouldn't be in it, i'm just saying that for once i'd like a quest that a robot has to take.. you know.. a transformer that drives the story in a TRANSFORMERS movie.. don't you find that insane?

in these movies, the plot has always centered around something the humans need to accomplish.. getting the allspark to the military.. finding the matrix and bringing it to prime.. getting to carly and taking out the space bridge.. all of those were accomplished with the transformers basically being secondary characters.. sure they had their time to shine.. but i'm sure ironhides death, and the betrayal of sentinel prime would've been more emotional had the story centered around the robots.

from the shots we've seen of mark.. he's always running around with that weapon.. i bet that that's some important weapon or artifact that he needs to take somewhere to do something with.. why isn't that being done by a transformer?.. maybe with the help of humans.. but no, the humans are doing more for this war than the robots are doing themselves.. for heaven's sake sam was the one who killed megatron in the first movie.. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!..

megatron was killed by humans.
barricade was killed by humans.
blackout was killed by humans.
starscream was killed by humans.
devastator was killed by humans.
and the humans SEVERELY injured shockwave to the point that a couple punches by prime killed him.

don't you find that outrageous?? ..

i know it's not going to change, but it's a big deal. i enjoyed the movies overall.. but this is something i just can't look past. i love the designs, i can look passed a bad story, i can look passed an uninteresting plot, i can look passed the plot holes, but i just can't overlook the involvement of the transformers and the fact that they're not what's driving the story.

this new movie gave them the opportunity to take a different perspective. rather than using a human's point of view, they could've used this next trilogy to tell the story in the perspective of the robots.

when people go to the theater to see a transformers movie.. that's what they want to see.. when people went to see real steel.. they wanted to see robot boxers, when people went to see pacific rim, they wanted to see robots fighting monsters.. when people go see a freddy or jason movie.. they're who they want to see.

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I honestly don't understand why die-hard G1 fans continuously make the bastardization claims against the live-action films simply because of design. There's nothing strenuous about telling them apart, for me personally anyways. Even my friends, who aren't excessive TF fans like myself, find it incredibly easy to tell them apart. Do you find it difficult?
i didn't find it difficult, i enjoyed the fight scenes.. i like going back and re-watching them to see what i missed in previous viewings.

but, my dad said he had trouble telling who was who. especially when you have characters of similar color.

i believe these new designs are going to exasperate the situation.. less familiar vehicle parts are going to make it that much more difficult for people to follow along.

it's easy for transformers fans because we're more familiar with the designs before the movies come out.. we've gone over the designs, we've compared them to the toys, we've commented, ranted and/or raved about them. so it's a lot easier for us.
eagc7
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don't you find that outrageous?? ..
i dont
Timothy.R
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i dont
really.. you don't find it outrageous that those main characters were all killed by humans?

seems pretty odd for a transformers fan to be okay with that many main decepticons killed by humans.
Decepticons
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Originally Posted by Galvatron II View Post
Now, if the designs were more streamlined- like the Don Figueroa IDW designs, not like the G1 cartoon, obviously, don't come at me with that- And the CG was used more economically, you'd really make things more feasible.

And, make shorter movies, say, 90 minutes rather than 150, spend aome of that time developing the TFs as characters, and a movie with 50-50 focus doesn't seem quite so impossible.

Or, lol at GEEWHINERS, I guess.
I believe the complexity in the designs of the cinematic Transformers is needed. It makes them look like sentient aliens. I just love it!

The two-hour running time is what makes these films blockbuster material, to me personally anyways. Not to mention, a majority of comic-book adaptation films of this size and scale have this running time. Yes, it is irritating to not have the Transformers be present throughout the entire film in nearly every scene, but there's no denying that over the course of the trilogy, the amount of screen time for the Transformers increased excessively. Agreed on the 50/50 focus.
eagc7
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really.. you don't find it outrageous that those main characters were all killed by humans?

seems pretty odd for a transformers fan to be okay with that many main decepticons killed by humans.
i am serious
PlanckEpoch
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I'm sorry, but the "audiences can't relate to non-humans!" argument is and always has been some old bullshit. Look at Avatar, for Christ's sake! Or Wall-E! He's not humanoid and he can't speak, but people still relate to him and his adventures!
This is because that the designers and writers did more than just humanize their personalities. The Na'vi exhibited human-like qualities, and they share a common desire to protect home, family and self. Wall-E is considerably less human, but the character was animated in a way that invoked human-like qualities and emotions. The problem with Transformers is that it is hard to relate to stuff that looks so utterly alien with motivations that are pretty out there. I don't know how it feels to have fought a war for a million years. I don't know what it is like to be the last handful of my race.

I think I really, really fucked up in my post. I wasn't thinking it all the way through.

I shouldn't say we CAN'T relate to the transformers. The comics have proven that you can. IDW in particular has done an amazing job with ONLY using Transformers characters yet it can still elicit emotion. That's because the writers put them into situations that are analogous to what we experience.

But the problem with the movies is that I think the premise works against it. From the get-go the Transformers are painted as a race of aliens who have more or less either taken refuge on Earth, or have tried to invade it. Both sides are trying to finish a war they've been fighting for millions of years, over a planet that is dead, and they collectively count for the last shards of their race. Can you honestly say you can relate to ANY of that? I think that's where the difficulty comes in. It doesn't have the IDW style set up where the Transformers are super fallible and suffer issues that we as humans suffer. Instead they're just...alien robots that do pretty awesome things but that's about it.

It also does not help that we never know anything about the robots. I never felt a damn thing for Ironhide because I didn't know a damn thing about him. The only thing I know is that he was Optimus Prime's oldest soldier. Well...okay. But that doesn't tell me why I should feel any kind of emotion.

The problem with Ironhide's death only serves to illustrate how detached the characters are I think. I think the writers and Bay knows this. How else do you explain the constant need to insert humans as the emotional tie ins for the audience?

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