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Man paints his car to look like Barricade, gets in trouble with local police

Posted on 03-12-2008 at 03:03 PM by Sol Fury under Transformers Movie (Just Movie) (All Transformers Movie News)
Las Vegas resident Jessie Vigil has landed himself in a little trouble with local law enforcement for painting his car like Barricade, reports the Las Cruces Sun-News. While what Mr Vigil has done is not illegal as long as he does not impersonate a Police Officer, there are still concerns of mistaken identity by local law enforcement officers.

KRQE News 13 has also run a story on this item (embedded below):

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SPLIT LIP
Didn't this happen months ago? I remember seeing this exact story in TFGD back in '07.

EDIT: Yup. Back in August 2007.
smkspy
Isn't this like a really old story or has been an update recently...guess I better go watch the video.
y2jversion1
Someone took a trip in Marty's DeLorean...
Poho
Dick Knipfing?
llolloollolololololololololoollolololollololol!!1!!1!one!!
shibamura_prime
Yeah, saw this a little while ago. The guy just came off as an attention whore using his kid's hobby as an excuse.

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Originally Posted by y2jversion1 View Post
Someone took a trip in Marty's DeLorean...
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9602/timelineld1.jpg
DJ Soundwave
This is months old..... what's new about it ? Did I miss something ?
BigRC83
He is one hell of a dad. Good job.
iDarkDesign
That's gold! I'm lucky I'm not in an English language country.


*snow-tires*


*summer looks*


Can you guess my other hobby

Hope you guys like.


iDD
DeathStorm
Nice job on the Mini there, iDark.

The story is a bit older, I remember seeing it months ago.
Apriorion
Regardless of whether the story/video is old, I think that it is interesting to see legal experts debating the grey-area-ness of this issue. I recently bought one of those Hot Topic Barricade track jackets, and I've been having some mixed feelings about wearing it while a jog. On the one hand, it's an awesome jacket design. On the other, I get the feeling that some people are going to mistake me for a cop, and that's a bad thing for two reasons. First, I live in a crime-ridden Northeastern city, so I don't want some homey-character thinking he should mess with me just because he doesn't like cops. Second, I don't want a cop to see me and come to think that I'm also impersonating a cop. So, unfortunately, I've resigned to wearing my awesome Barricade track jacket at family gatherings only. And that sucks.

It might seem like I'm trying to derail this thread, but I'm not. Here's my point: I recognized that there are downsides to the awesomeness of trying to imitate (in some way, either with a jacket or what-have-you) a fictional character who imitates the police in-the-fiction. Thus, even though I spent thirty bucks on the product, I won't go trouncing around in public with it on. This guy should recognize that even if there are "good intentions" (to please your kid?! give me a break--he liked the goddamned movie and seems to be embarrassed to admit it), he shouldn't put himself into a position where he might look like he's imitating the police.

Actually, I really liked the liquid-terminator from T2, especially when he wore that uniform and rode that police-bike. I think I'll go get decked out right now to look like that creepy weirdo from T2. (("No officer; you see, I'm not imitating the cops. I'm dressed up like that weird terminator from T2."))
Autovolt 127
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Originally Posted by iDarkDesign View Post
That's gold! I'm lucky I'm not in an English language country.

http://www.idarkdesign.speedxs.nl/pi...I/politie2.jpg
*snow-tires*

http://www.newminiclub.nl/gallery/albums/329/13510.jpg
*summer looks*

http://www.newminiclub.nl/gallery/albums/329/13513.jpg
Can you guess my other hobby

Hope you guys like.


iDD

That's so cool.
transmetropolitan
^It truly is.
ChaoCatcher
Hmm, old story, but surprised I hadn't heard about it before.

As an staunch anarchist, how about this for a solution? Abolish the police! They're nothing more than brutish hired mercenary murderer-thugs for the state anyway. Leave *real* crime-fighting up to private investigators and security companies to go after cases where an actual victim has been harmed by someone's actions. And I have to ask, WHY is painting and decorating your own private property in a certain arrangement of colors and figures a "crime"? Ridiculous!

Then years from now, after violent institutions like government and police are gone, people like this innocent gentleman will either be praised by Transfans like us for being a great fan and a great dad to his son... and the rest of the public will laugh at these anachronisitc "police impersonators" as harmless buffoons much like most of us today joke about anachronistic Civil War re-enactors.
iDarkDesign
thanks




iDD
Glitch
The thing I'll never understand with the guys like this that take the leap into such a project is that they totally F@$% up even on the most obvious details.

If you're going to do something this drastic, at least take the time, do the research and get it right.

I can't even imagine doing something like this and settling for lettering that is "pretty close" to the original, decals that "kinda look like" the ones in the film , etc...


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darkmgmstr
Quote:
Originally Posted by iDarkDesign View Post
That's gold! I'm lucky I'm not in an English language country.

http://www.idarkdesign.speedxs.nl/pi...I/politie2.jpg
*snow-tires*

http://www.newminiclub.nl/gallery/albums/329/13510.jpg
*summer looks*

http://www.newminiclub.nl/gallery/albums/329/13513.jpg
Can you guess my other hobby

Hope you guys like.



iDD
Dood!!!!! That is awesome.... Just as a suggestion, but you could have made it look like Stockcade, IMO. But other than that, great job...

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Originally Posted by y2jversion1 View Post
Someone took a trip in Marty's DeLorean...
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9602/timelineld1.jpg


Yes, the report is old news...
Ceerad
This would be a much better story if the car looked like Barricade.
rabbid1
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Originally Posted by Sol Fury View Post
Aw jeez....
lemonherb
I don't see a problem of replicating a police car, movie inspired or not, but it shouldn't be street legal. ie, if he wants to show it off, do it in car shows etc
Optimus-JD
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Originally Posted by ChaoCatcher View Post
Hmm, old story, but surprised I hadn't heard about it before.

As an staunch anarchist, how about this for a solution? Abolish the police! They're nothing more than brutish hired mercenary murderer-thugs for the state anyway. Leave *real* crime-fighting up to private investigators and security companies to go after cases where an actual victim has been harmed by someone's actions. And I have to ask, WHY is painting and decorating your own private property in a certain arrangement of colors and figures a "crime"? Ridiculous!

Then years from now, after violent institutions like government and police are gone, people like this innocent gentleman will either be praised by Transfans like us for being a great fan and a great dad to his son... and the rest of the public will laugh at these anachronisitc "police impersonators" as harmless buffoons much like most of us today joke about anachronistic Civil War re-enactors.

HAHAHA, Holy crap you are serious aren't you!?!

But yeah, this is hardly news at all.
Jacer
lol that's my local news.
Bahamut Prime
Old, but interesting story! I don't know why the police would arrest him even though the car doesn't have any sirens on it...
frenzyrumble
what a schmuck lol. the font used on the doors (police) doesn't even match barricade. stupid sign shop graphic amateurs!
ODarkThirty
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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP View Post
Didn't this happen months ago? I remember seeing this exact story in TFGD back in '07.

EDIT: Yup. Back in August 2007.

Yeah, it's old news, but this article does have newer information on the continued customizations this man has done to his Ford Mustang. The guy had photos up on his myspace (His username was barricade505) but it seems his account was deleted?


By the way, it's awesome seeing that news segment video I uploaded onto Youtube is still making it's rounds!
optimus major
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoCatcher View Post
Hmm, old story, but surprised I hadn't heard about it before.

As an staunch anarchist, how about this for a solution? Abolish the police! They're nothing more than brutish hired mercenary murderer-thugs for the state anyway. Leave *real* crime-fighting up to private investigators and security companies to go after cases where an actual victim has been harmed by someone's actions. And I have to ask, WHY is painting and decorating your own private property in a certain arrangement of colors and figures a "crime"? Ridiculous!

Then years from now, after violent institutions like government and police are gone, people like this innocent gentleman will either be praised by Transfans like us for being a great fan and a great dad to his son... and the rest of the public will laugh at these anachronisitc "police impersonators" as harmless buffoons much like most of us today joke about anachronistic Civil War re-enactors.
hey.....read this thread of a GREAT MAN WHO HAPPENS TO BE A POLICEOFFICER

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/149252-my-first-encounter-scalper.html

DO NOT INSULT THE GREAT PEOPLE THAT SERVE OUR COUNTRY WITH HONOR

and also....why is this still on the front page
jazz4ever
i dont think thats against the law but it is good if theres not confusion whenever the police need to do their job on the other hand i wish my dad would make our car like a transformer
Dropshot
The issue is that it is ilegal to drive a car that resembles a police vehicle, not even police badges or signs can be painted on the car. The mistake this guy did, is driving that car everyday, it is not street legal.
Rotorstorm
he should just put massive Decepticon decals on either side of the thing. Less authentic but cooler looking and more distinguishing from real Fuzz cars
SoundMaster
I want that car
I think that something should be done about it, but not too severe. He was only trying to make his son happy.
brybosch
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Originally Posted by Ceerad View Post
This would be a much better story if the car looked like Barricade.
yup your right the barricade car is a Saleen S281 Extreme but all it really is is a modified 2005 ford mustang...man and theres a reason why i hate spoild brats...not kids BRATS later on that kids gonna be retarded cause he doesnt study BUT WHO PAYS FOR SCHOOL...yup thats right daddy.Although im 14 heres a message to dads around the world...DONT SPOIL YOUR KIDS!!!!!
cause then theyll think that you have to pay everything...and if your wondering why i have 32 transformers in my collection...i bought them well the new ones actually
orionpacks85
Maybe if he would have made his car look like an autobot he'd never have this problem. I never did!

iDarkDesign
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Originally Posted by orionpacks85 View Post
That's awesome!!

is there a TF custom car owners gallery on this board somewhere?

iDD
Turbocharger
The way you can tell that this is more than just a making the kid happy thing is the lightbar. Movie Barricade had a low profile all clear lens LED Galaxy lightbar. He put a giant-ass red/blue fake bar on there.

Now the only reason to do that is to make people think you're a cop.
Lupis Convoy
I personally am a bit iffy on this, as I'm from a family with police background, and hopefully someday future cop. I can see why it would cause a fuss, and can see the potential problems that could arise.

I'm interested to see what the rest of the members on here that are from a police/service background have to say, and their particular viewpoints.
Simian
I applaud the guy...It is just ridiculous that tax payer dollars are going into a frivolous investigation. I mean come on...nab some crack heads or murders or a governor that has spent 80 million of our money on some hookers. Nah, they would rather harass a guy whose car looks nothing like the local law enforcements vehicles for trying to just get a smile from his kid.
timshinn73
very old news
Blunticon
Well he did a damn good job on replicating it.
kenm2474
Keep on Rollin Brother you aint breakin no law.
Repainted
I saw a much more accuratedly decorated "General Lee" driving by our apartment the other day. I couldn't believe it. It was quick, but looked enough like the genuine article. This guy's car is too far off. He should, at least, make it worth his while to go through all this trouble. I don't think any reasonable thinking person should have a beef with it. If you've seen enough police cars (either in passing or in skirmishes with the law, whichever), you should know there's enough sepcific decor/identification that they have that the Decepticon Barricade doesn't.
Turbocharger
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Originally Posted by Blunticon View Post
Well he did a damn good job on replicating it.
Not really.
Lupis Convoy
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Originally Posted by kenm2474 View Post
Keep on Rollin Brother you aint breakin no law.
That's the thing.. he might be. There's a fine line between his right to free speech, and the illegal act of impersonation of a law enforcement officer.

I remember a blurb about Best Buy being busted big time for this in a suite vs. the state of California, all based on their New Beetle paint jobs for their Geeksquad division.


Honestly, the amount of Anti-police comments I've seen as of late is kind of making me angry. These people, both ladies and gentlemen, go out of their way everyday, and put their lives on the line. I'm not saying they are all saints, nor is the legal system perfect, but they should be shown respect. Hell we respect and support the troops we have in the armed forces, why don't we the ones that are here that aren't in the political limelight currently?

Maybe I'm just moody, but it just seems like a slap in the face when people are so vehemently against the police.
Smokescreen
That guy did a pretty good job with his car. Looks very similar to Barricade. I did notice it says "Transformers" above "Police", which wasn't in the movie, of course. Other than that, and a few other differences, it's pretty close.

I guess I can see why the police would have a concern. But, the thing is, unless the guy himself pulls someone over or tries to present himself as a cop, he's not impersonating a police officer. Maybe it could be considered impersonating a cop car, but that's not illegal as far as I know. Making you car look like a police car isn't dangerous at all, unless you use your car to try and pull someone over. If the guy doesn't do that, then there's no real problem, except the drivers in front of him will go real slow.
Glitcher
Words fail me.

If he ever gets arrested, he could probably sell the car for several grand on eBay and bail himself out.
smkspy
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Originally Posted by Lupis Convoy View Post
Maybe I'm just moody, but it just seems like a slap in the face when people are so vehemently against the police.

I've noticed the anti-police sentiment is a rising trend just in general amongst all walks of life. The criminal system in America is need of serious reform and people's knee jerk reactions are just symptomatic of that need. So its less a slap in the face and more a cry for change.


While the pant job is kinda cool, the light bars look ass. I remember we have a guy running around town a few years ago impersonating the police. He was pulling hot girls over and tried to get them to expose themselves.
Red Alert
if your going to paint your car like a cop at least do prowl.barricade sucks
Monari
If he wanted to do this without breaking law, he just needed to replace the wording on the car but keep the same font. Hell, Saleen (the guys who made the Barricade car) did something similar:

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/27/e...icade-replica/

And it looks much more like Barricade than the guys Mustang (but in fairness, is also a lot more expensive than a disabled veteran could probably afford).
twichyy
hes a douche bag that tries to get sympathy by saying hes a disabled veteran, and that he has a kid and can't be put in jail... it is his own stupid fault for both those things... he shouldn't have inlisted and he should have used a rubber.
Omnus
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Originally Posted by Dropshot View Post
The issue is that it is ilegal to drive a car that resembles a police vehicle ... The mistake this guy did, is driving that car everyday, it is not street legal.
Incorrect.

The issue is that the appearance of the car could easily facilitate the actual crime of "impersonating an officer of the law". There are no laws in the USA that make it 'illegal to drive a car that resembles a police vehicle'. Your location is listed as Mexico, and since I have no idea what the laws are there regarding this sort of thing, there's nothing I can say about what the situation would be like there.

I've actually seen situations like this come up before from stories on several news sites over the years. Not only is there no law against what he has done, from what I've seen from those articles there is, as of yet, not even a legal precedent regarding this. Leaving out the ugly incidents (in deference to the board members who do not wish to see law-enforcement officer's images further tarnished), roughly half of these incidents ended with the person having the vehicle's paint job restored to what it was after it was de-commissioned from the police motor pool. A very small number of others (2 or 3, IIRC) simply did not drive them on public streets. For the others, there were no articles noting another form of resolution, leaving one to assume that nothing significant enough to set a legal precedent occurred.

It is, as stated properly in the video, 'a legal grey area'. It is 'by the letter of the law' street legal, as it appears in the news video. Another picture in this thread showed that he did have a fake light bar on top of the vehicle before. With that fake light bar, I could see why police would be upset and take it as a sign that the person does have intent to commit the crime of impersonating a police officer.

As it stands, the other changes made to the vehicle in the news video do not help the situation. The Transformers brand name put above the police lettering on the car doors could be confused for saying something else in less-than-ideal circumstances. Since current regulations require police vehicles to have the name of the city that the officer riding in the vehicle serves along with the police spelling (in order to cut down on impersonations and 'jurisdictional incidents'), then having nothing aside from the police spelling on the doors would be better for the situation.

Also, making the Decepticon logos on the sides as large as the one on the car used for Barricade in the move would help a little bit more as well.

As it stands, even if the guy does make it look properly like Barricade, this is still 'legal grey area'. I have yet to hear of any police departments (not counting Highway Patrol as 'police' due to sevral issues pertinent to this paragraph only) using the new Mustang models as an official vehicle (although, I don't really keep track of this) since, last I read, there are no production packages that meet performance and price requirements for such vehicles (in other words, in order to make a Mustang meet the demanding requirements of official police vehicles, they end up costing way too much).

Basically, the local police should, even if it has to be grudgingly, take the man at his word about his intent not to break the law (in the USA people are Innocent until proven Guilty). Of course, if there is a report that turns out to be someone impersonating an officer of the law using a Mustang, they would not be without precedent to consider this guy dog meat headed to the grinder (a.k.a. the prime suspect).

By the same token, the guy who did this should expect that he will pulled over and questioned about this from time-to-time. It would be intelligent of him to get the names of officers that have pulled him over in the past and keep that on a sheet of paper tucked in his sun visor, so that inquiries and verifications could be made that would let him be able to go on his way soon after he is pulled over.

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