Full Revised Artwork for Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Megatron and Ravage

Very cool! Ravage looks badass...demonic hell creature wins out over cute kitty cat!

Easy, by applying what we know of the designers, writers, and director, all of which were on the 1st movie. Starscream, Megatron, and the rest of the decepticons had ZERO personality. They were generic movie monsters. Bay himself comments on the influence of the Jurassic Park T-Rex on his version of Megatron. There was nothing to remotely attach any empathy to any of the decepticons. Look at all the REAL classic villains... Darth Vader, Hannibal Lecter, King Kong, etc... there is an element of humanity to them that allows the audience to feel for them.... you want to cheer the villain, but you know that is wrong.

None of that exists with the Decepticons. They have no identity. No mission. All we know is they want the All Spark, and they hate Autobots. Why? Did bumblebee not put the toilet seat down for the Nth time and Starscream sat in a puddle? Did the Autobots banish the Decepticons eons ago and the Decepts want revenge? Maybe Megatron feels like his goals are honorable and the ends justify the means?
We just don't know. All we get are roars and blurry fist-fights.

I dunno... Hello Kitty would whup Barbed Wire Ravage. Too many spines/pokey things. Should have a blue eye, like Frenzy, and no teeth. Hello Kitty would just beat Barbed-Wire Ravage over the head with Badtz Maru and be done with it.

Only Megatron, Barricade and Bonecrusher roared. Everyone else was silent or in Frenzy's case, dribbling.

Who's saying you can't tell what they can transform into by the way? I can clearly see wheels on Megs' feet. Have I been wrong about how Transformer toys improve hand-to-eye co-ordination?

This is a good point, I think. Yeah, I bought the transformations in the first movie, insofar as I did believe that there was a genuine and functioning routine involved in folding the robot parts into vehicle mode, but with 10,000 parts all moving at the same time and Bay's camera whizzing all over the place, I'll be damned if I could actually work out what it was. I wouldn't go as far as to say that I disliked that style of ultra-complex transformation, but for me one of the most enjoyable things about the toys is seeing exactly HOW they transform, which vehicle parts become which robot parts, how kibble tucks and hides away, and so forth; whilst I respect the whizz-bang wizardry behind the movie-style morphing, I can't help but feel that something simpler might be more fun and involving to watch.

same mind

So that leaves mindless lumbering claw-handed Brawlastator, bestial chicken-monkey Starscream, and Blackout, who has a scorpion growing out of his ass? You're right... that totally foils my Decepticons-as-monsters theory.

At least Starscream had a couple of relevant lines.

I totally agree about Megatron's tread feet. It's one of the things my attention latched onto immediately when I saw that pic. Could that bit of coherent alt-mode be part of what so many folks are responding to when they say they prefer this Megatron design to the first movie?

That's exactly it! Between the ADD camerawork and the "magic" effect of the transformations, I really did find myself missing those more mechanical, coherent conversions.

A friend of mine who works professionally in CGI modeling and animation defended the Bayformer designs before the first movie came out on the grounds that he believed the new designs had to contain more intense details like that to hold our attention on the large screen... simple transformations wouldn't cut it. After the movie was released, he completely rescinded his point, and agreed that intense detail like that can actually distract the eye on a large screen, and detract from the overall experience.

But this is all terrain that has been trod to death since the first Bayformers, so on that count, now we're just beating the dust out of an old horse skeleton. However, based on these designs, it's hard to say whether Bay and Dreamworks has bothered to improve on the flaws in their design philosophy, or if they were too busy counting their money instead.

zmog

Megatron's a BIG improvement over the first design. I especially like the "claw" arm. It reminds me of BW Megatron and it seems like a much more effective way to incorporate a permanent fusion cannon into his design without going the G1 route which I think would look out of place in the movie design style.

Ravage is a lot more feline than the early concept art. Not sure how I feel about the one eye yet, overall, but it's pretty freaky looking face could work quite well depending on how he's used.

I honestly, don't get this attitude that all entertainment needs to be smart and sophisticated to be good or that entertainment that is designed so people can shut off their brains for two hours or so and enjoy some explosions and awesome CGI is somehow a bad thing. It doesn't mean that artistry or intelligence is dead, simply that people don't always want to go to the movies and have to think. My DVD collection, for example, has plenty of intelligent movies and plenty of mindless ones because I have different moods. Sometimes I want to think when I'm entertained and sometimes I'm so stressed out by things like school and my other responsibilities that the last thing I want to do when watching a movie is engage my brain.

My point being that even if movies like Transformers are successful at the box office it doesn't mean that people are stupid or have bad taste (taste being conditional to the individual, it's impossible for you or I to define what truly qualifies as good taste. That's pretty much a dead end road.) simply that people don't want to overthink when they're being entertained. From my own personal experience, it seems to have more to do with us living in a stressful society (not to draw this into a political or social discussion but just look at the current state of our economy) that leads to people watching "dumb" or "flashy" Hollywood flicks.

I just want to add one last thing, which is to thank you for being respectful when posting. It happens too often, on both sides of the argument for or against the movie, that people lapse into angry shouting matches. It's why I tend to avoid the movie forum, especially now that news is starting to pop up, but it's nice to see that some people can have intelligent, respectful conversations.

That looks so...AWESOME!!!

Okay,the movie has pulled me back in from the brink.

But of course im hungry for more now.
I hope this is the first wave of a buttload of movie pics.

I'm not fundamentally against no-brainers or guilty pleasures... god knows I indulge in those too! But I find it disturbing that too often, this has become the prevailing attitude, as if "having to think" is like the worst punishment one can inflict on somebody. Our society has become so anti-intellectual that the notion of quality or intelligence in entertainment is seen as some sort of elitist pretension... when in fact, these factors only enhance a good film, NEVER EVER detract.

Self-consistent, reasonably intelligent blockbuster action films should not be an unrealistic expectation. I'm not asking for Transformers to be Last Year At Marienbad, after all. I'd be happy if it just managed to be Robocop!

Personally, when a film I was expecting to be pure flash instead manages to engage my mind, I'm not disappointed... I'm invigorated! Take something like WALL-E for example. That film is relentlessly intelligent, and yet completely entertaining and manages to feel elegantly simple all at once. It doesn't take energy to watch it... you don't need to leave your brain at the door.. and instead you come out of it feeling better for the experience.

All movies should at least aspire to that effect, and I think it's sad that we've gotten so accustomed to lowest-common-denominator drech, that we as a culture seem to be afraid of anything else, and fiercely defend our right to stupid mindless "entertainment".

But I digress...

Well, I try to be as civil, respectful and friendly as I can, though I've had my lapses too...

zmog

ravage!! eject!!! operation: KICK MAJOR ASS!!!! the only thing i dont like is he looks like hes got a lugnut eye in the center. hope he ends up havin 2. but bsides that, AWESOMENESS!!!!! and megatron dosnt look like a skeleton anymore!!!! WOOT!!!! he got plating like the rest of the civilized world!!! i am so stoked 4 this movie!!

QFT! Bring it on! On a side note, ill be one of the first ppls in line to camp outside Toys 'r' us In my country to get the movie toys next year!

Wow, both Ravage and Megs look awesome!
I liked Megatron's design in the first movie but this one is sweeter still.
Ravage looks just plain evil, the way he should.
I'm so looking forward to TF2, loved the first one and will no doubt love the second one too.
Great stuff!

Do the GI Joe fans have massive forum battles the minute someone mentions or posts anything related to that upcoming film adaptation?

This is probably not the case at all, but it strikes me as a slight possibility that the Megatron we're seeing here may not be the freshly rebuilt Megs some think he is. What's to say this isn't a heavily (re)damaged Megs in the midst of a vicious struggle towards the end of the film? His arm may only be so gangly as a result of battle-damage or some such, thing. Like I said, even I doubt the idea, but it could be.

That said, I like the new Megs. His added bulk makes him look like a bruiser, and that claw arm/cannon thing indeed recalls BW-era Megs incarnations, so it's not as strange a choice as it seems upon first glance. His head spikes remind me of galvatron a little bit, but the absence of bright-red six pack abs kills that. Also, those "fingers" on his gangly arm kinda just look like shredded metal to me, like maybe his ruined arm hasn't been entirely replaced, or has been destroyed anew. Though, I guess they probably are supposed to be fingers. Anyway, I look forward to seeing how his new body comes to be, and to seeing it in motion on screen.

Also, Ravage is cool...I wasn't a big fan of skorponok in the first film, because he felt pretty tacked on for the special effects, so I hope Ravage exists for more than just sand displacement and fright factor. I agree that it looks like he might have "normal" eyes, but if so, the red orb is just so distracting. Perhaps it's not always visible, and as someone else mentioned is a recording device/weapon of some sort?

Also, Megs is the new junkion. Looks like some of his kibble reformatted down south.

Wow he still looks like crap

*Thinks about the few times he's checked out HISS tank* Yeah. Yeah they do. In fact, I'd go so far as to say ANYTIME I've seen a new adaption of anything come out, I've seen huge edition wars about it. (Unless the fanbase is rather tiny to begin with.)

You wanna see bitter fans? Try any of the 300,000 Harry Potter fansites. Those Potterians go into all out war over omissions from the books, who would be a better actor for a certain role, and how THEY would do the films better, even tho they are only a bunch of 12 year old girls...

So yeah... bitter, jaded fans exist everywhere... Trekkies, Potterians, "LOTR"ites, "GI-Joe"ies, etc... anywhere there are nerds, there is raw, unbridled angst.

Looks better now than in the first movie, and is still a far cry better than the
G1 Megatron. G1 was the DUMBEST looking Megatron of all the designs.... trigger crotch? scrawny legs? itty-bitty arms... just a HORRID sculpt.

Best design, bar none, and I've even overheard people comment at the store, looking at the toy, is the TFA version. That is a beautiful design.

Hopefully this new Megatron will look good on screen as well as a still shot.

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The cons must have found the remains of AMEE on Mars and injected her with some steroids.



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holy shit he dose look like crying wolf!! more and more tf is bing mixed with metal gear. first blitzwing with his metal gear alt mode, then ravage XD

XD same here pal same here WOOOT!!!!!!!

I don't like the one eye.

i don't either foster... makes him look like cyclops

In the first movie, Megatron was killed when the AllSpark was pushed into his chest and he overloaded from it's energy. Afterward, his dead body was dumped into the Laurentian Abyss in the North Atlantic by the U.S. Navy.

Any thoughts from anybody on how he will be resurrected in the sequel?

two ideas:

1) energizer batteries installed in spark-core.

2) body is dredged up by the Roomba company, trying to make a smarter vaccuum, and makes a Megatron that really, truly, sucks.

Quick question and this has to do with the photo.... The Fallen is a cybertronian tank aint he?

in his previous appearances yes .

Thanks for the month old bump so that you could bust out those priceless lulz.

Like MEGAMAN X FAN said, his previous versions have. As for the Movie Fallen, we have absolutely no idea what his alt-mode will be, or even if he'll have an alt-mode. Though I doubt he doesn't have an alt-mode, but whatever it is will most likely be Cybertronian in design.