 | | | Empire Magazine Describes Previously Released Images | | Posted on 12-29-2008 at 02:17 PM by fosterlager | Thanks to Alienbot of the TFW2005 boards for letting us in on the content of the Empire magazine article we have seen images for online. Here's what Empire tells us about their images: *Bay and LaBeouf confirm the Fallen is a separate character. End of.
*Egyptian hieroglyphics, like the one at the bottom of my post, turn out to be depictions of Transformers who visited Earth.
*Bay claims Megatron is not coming back and the tank is just a new toy.
*Around 40 robots.
*Budget is $200 million.
*Ramon Rodriguez is the one holding on for dear life to a pole while cars are flung.
*Devastator appears at the pyramid, he's probably 50 feet tall because that's the height of the camera crane they used on location. | | Credit: Alienbot of the 2005 Boards! | Views: 8,954 | | Scottamalla:
There is NO WAY that Megz isn't in the sequel. Don't fall for that BS fellas. Unless the whole movie is about him trying to be resurrected by Soundwave or whoever and fail. But, Bay said that it'll be a standalone movie and won't set up a third one. And why the hell would they change his alt-mode and NOT put him into the movie??? That makes NO SENSE!
alien:
Come on man! 40 bots! i wish to see Devastator how is look like...
dark69: Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottamalla And why the hell would they change his alt-mode and NOT put him into the movie??? That makes NO SENSE! | why would they make Arcee and other bots and not have then in the first movie?
caitlindevi:
Hmmmm 40 bots.
I'm guessing thats a 'final battle' thing and not a flashback or 'Meanwhile on Cybertron' thing.
Saying 40 seems a bit specific...if it was loads of drones they could have just gone mad and done hundreds but keeping it back..does that suggest TF characters? or has the US milatary created their own TFs?
Or is the thing hidden in the pyramids a space bridge and a whole lot of reinforcements make it through to beat Devestator and the fallen in the end?
Shipley: Quote:
Originally Posted by Poho only $200 Million for the budget? hmmm. the first one had minimal bot screentime because of budget constraints with $150 million...so how are they going to get 40 robots in there? | Well most of the principal cast is already modeled, and the 10+ completely unknown Transformers at this time might be all CG, which is little bit cheaper than building various customer peterbilt trucks and camaros to drive around.
I mean honestly, a 50 million dollar increase is a LOT of money, and they didn't spend it on actors, they've spent it on more robots, which is the way to go. If they hired some guy like Brad Pitt, well there goes $25 of the $50 mil, but they stuck with lesser known actors, and even ditched Jon Voight.
$200 million was enough money to sink the Titanic for 4 hours 10 years ago, and fill a theme park with realisitic dinosaurs for 2 hours 15 years ago. The CGI dollar goes a lot farther now
Jefrey8395:
BAY MUST DIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Ahh that  ,  ,  ,  ,  ,
Pepsiman98:
if they do make a 3d TF movie they will use only one word to descride it:UNICRON
Beastbot X:
Am I the only one who thinks 50 feet is waaay too short for Devastator? I mean, made of 7 construction vehicles, many of them those huge mining vehicles... I was hoping for 100 feet at least. (Though it still may turn out that way if they're aiming for a shot from the feet so that he looked taller.)
KaRNiV8L PR1M3:
There is no way that Megatron will not be in this movie unless he is re-formatted into Galvatron.
Soundwave84:
Beast Wars was before man was evolved maybe they are taking that direction with the Hydrographics
DeceptiKreep:
Pretty sure the Megs comment is some more of that misinformation!
Awesome new pics! I saw one in a newspaper someone was reading on the train this morning and found myself trying to lean over to look at it. Ultrawave: Quote:
Originally Posted by TFfan08 Wait a minute. If Transformers visited Earth long time ago. How come they don't find the allspark. Hooverdam was not build before 1930. | Maybe they were exploring the Galaxy for other places to live in the event something were to happen to Cybertron, or if they needed to launch the Allspark into space; in which case the Allspark intentionally landed on Earth, not by accident.
50ft for Devastator? That seems short, but didnt one of the writers say he was going to be kind of squat--like a gorilla? Maybe he's got a crapload of weapons or something to make up for his small size?
Deadend: Quote:
Originally Posted by Alienbot I posted this in the thread about Empire's pictures, but it needs more exposure certainly:
*Bay and LaBeouf confirm the Fallen is a separate character. End of.
*Egyptian hieroglyphics, like the one at the bottom of my post, turn out to be depictions of Transformers who visited Earth.
*Bay claims Megatron is not coming back and the tank is just a new toy.
*Around 40 robots.
*Budget is $200 million.
*Ramon Rodriguez is the one holding on for dear life to a pole while cars are flung.
*Devastator appears at the pyramid, he's probably 50 feet tall because that's the height of the camera crane they used on location.  | Somehow I'm not surprised. Cept I think the megatron remark is to slightly dissuade us. I don't think 'megatron' entirely comes back as himself right off the bat, or he may go through a naming crisis. There are always ways around comments like that. But I'm pretty near certain he's back for at least a scene with his spindly arm.
Those glyphs do create an interesting aspect of story to tap... Though then again, I showed those here and said that months back too. xD
Who's to say all the new bots from the past are from cybertron? =3
Or were even capable of leaving earth to report where it is? =3
Plus those glyphs are in egypt, and the cube is in nevada, long before the cube was unearthed, it was still covered by miles of dirt and rock from it's initial impact.
caitlindevi: Quote:
Originally Posted by Beastbot X Am I the only one who thinks 50 feet is waaay too short for Devastator? I mean, made of 7 construction vehicles, many of them those huge mining vehicles... I was hoping for 100 feet at least. (Though it still may turn out that way if they're aiming for a shot from the feet so that he looked taller.) | remember that devestator has been described as being gorilla like (not looking like a monkey but being more about upper body strength and huge powerful arms) so if hes hunched over using his arms to support his body like king kong 50 feet is still going to make him bloody enormous and more than big enough to pick up prime in one hand and smash him against the pyramid.
I'm fully expecting him to be very kong like in movement and stature.
I also expect to see some humans get stomped on and at least one of the smaller bots get hit by a full on hand slam to the ground right up in the camera
Jazz1979:
Sounds like misinformation campaign of bay.
Megatron surely returns. Devastator is "only" 50 feet? I expected it to be around 80 feet.
I hope the Fallen is really a character in TF2, maybe the archenemy in that movie.
40 robots? Maybe when they are counting drones and scouts.
Ultrawave:
So behind the helicopter, at the FAAARRR left of the picture, I'm seeing a Wasp/bug type glyph.
...
Waspinator, anyone?
caitlindevi: Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultrawave Maybe they were exploring the Galaxy for other places to live in the event something were to happen to Cybertron, or if they needed to launch the Allspark into space; in which case the Allspark intentionally landed on Earth, not by accident.
50ft for Devastator? That seems short, but didnt one of the writers say he was going to be kind of squat--like a gorilla? Maybe he's got a crapload of weapons or something to make up for his small size? | Squat doesn't neccessarily mean small size...I'm picturing something proportioned like Bulkhead which bigger more powerful arms and bigger shoulders and a head appearing to be kinda mid body due to being hunched over, having to use his arms to help him move about like a gorilla. More about brute force than shooting stuff.
Think about how starscream looks, I'm just hoping Dev doesn't have chickenlegs
PeterSkillenUK: Quote:
Originally Posted by Torque HOLY ^$&%$^* thats awesome | Yea me too on that one that is awesomly freaky!
prime is a legend:
got my copy today, and according to the article they are speculating Optimus could be killed off.
The scenes being shot in Egypt were some of the final climatic scenes and on the set his truck wasn't spotted even though few other Autobot cars were. Ian Bryce also said "Optimus is not Traveling. He's in the States" which could mean 2 things. either the prop is back in the states of his part in the story is taking place there.
Not that this means anything he could just as well be there and in robot mode which would require ILM's magic touch in post production.
Scottimus:
LoL to bay saying the tank is "just a new toy", i don't think he knows the concept art or comic covers have leaked yet. silly bay.
and that's BS  that devastators only 50' tall. seriously the excavator that is supposedly one of the shoulders is bigger than a house.
and 40 robots = about 20 or so robots that are cool and 20 that will just DIE!
lastly, i really hope arcee is one that dies. caitlindevi: Quote:
Originally Posted by prime is a legend got my copy today, and according to the article they are speculating Optimus could be killed off.
The scenes being shot in Egypt were some of the final climatic scenes and on the set his truck wasn't spotted even though few other Autobot cars were. Ian Bryce also said "Optimus is not Traveling. He's in the States" which could mean 2 things. either the prop is back in the states of his part in the story is taking place there.
Not that this means anything he could just as well be there and in robot mode which would require ILM's magic touch in post production. | Prime Killed off?
I can see that happening...mking the ultimate sacrifice to save the day....he tried it once before but was prevented, maybe he just has a death wish
Fijilight08:
Maybe the truck wasn't in Egypt because a lot of the climatic battle scene was also filmed in New Mexico!!!! They couldn't do the whole thing in Egypt
iwasherenotyou:
hope tha part about megatron isnt true
[Wing_Saber-X]: Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayzilla Prime ...Megatron NOT returning?! Then how do they explain the CGI image with Ravage?
Maybe Bay didn't know that the images got leaked.  | Yeah, silly Bay and his "misinformation" OMFG! Its all bullshit! campaigns. Phuleez, the Fandom wasnt built in a day, ya know. Were no slouches or NooBs AnimatedFan: Quote:
Originally Posted by Jefrey8395 BAY MUST DIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Ahh that  ,  ,  ,  ,  , | You + posting privileges = No.
Babbling incoherence does not a post make. Quote:
Originally Posted by caitlindevi Prime Killed off?
I can see that happening...mking the ultimate sacrifice to save the day....he tried it once before but was prevented, maybe he just has a death wish | It's entirely possible they could kill Prime off. It's not unusual for one of the main stars of a film series of this type to have it happen. Though I find it highly unlikely. If they do kill Prime, we might have a "The Search For Spock" themed sequel after this one. Although TSFS's writers had Planet Genesis as a macguffin to bring him back, whereas the Allspark's been destroyed in this film. Soo...I dunno. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Alienbot *Bay and LaBeouf confirm the Fallen is a separate character. End of. | Okay. I'd hope so. I personally don't give a crap about The Fallen (I never did. Perhaps the movie will change that for me.) Quote: |
Originally Posted by Alienbot *Egyptian hieroglyphics, like the one at the bottom of my post, turn out to be depictions of Transformers who visited Earth. | I think it's awesome that they're using the real deal. Even if it's based on fiction, it might just get people interested in Egyptian history again. We still don't know all the answers and we might find something groundbreaking if people would just become interested again. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Alienbot *Bay claims Megatron is not coming back and the tank is just a new toy. | This is entirely possible. And I also realize it could be a Bay misdirection, but he could be mistaken due to Hasbro's efforts. For all we know, he might not have Megatron in the film and Hasbro's just trying to cash in.
I mean we haven't heard anything about casting for him, and we most certainly haven't heard anything in the Hugo Weaving department.
I'm sure he'll make an appearance though. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Alienbot *Around 40 robots. | Hmm. Crowded, but perhaps not a bad thing. I mean the core Autobots and Decepticons will have the most screen time, with a good dose of Devastator, most likely. The rest are probably filler bots, the redshirts of the TF world. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Alienbot *Budget is $200 million. | After seeing what Bay was able to accomplish with $150... yeah, he can pull off an amazing sequel. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Alienbot *Devastator appears at the pyramid, he's probably 50 feet tall because that's the height of the camera crane they used on location. | If true...awesome. Like jawdropping, awe inspiring awesome. Can't wait to see the finished product.
[Wing_Saber-X]: Quote:
Originally Posted by Jefrey8395 BAY MUST DIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Ahh that  ,  ,  ,  ,  , |  Seriously, dude WTF. Just take a chill pill. Bay's just screwing with us. Id bet a million smackeroos that Megs is in the frickin movie, he should show up in the ending or something. Heck, for all we know he might be the one who builds Devastator?! I mean, hello? Its Megatron for fucks sake. Torque:
the thing about Devastator being 50ft tall-isnt the SUPER HUUGE DUMPTRUCK OF DEATH, DOOM, AND DESTRUCTION (Long Haul) about that size?
optimusdestruction: Quote:
Originally Posted by Torque the thing about Devastator being 50ft tall-isnt the SUPER HUUGE DUMPTRUCK OF DEATH, DOOM, AND DESTRUCTION (Long Haul) about that size? | I couldn't agree more. Wasn't Blackout about 50 ft tall? If long haul is the main dude for Devastator than he should be much larger than 50 feet tall. Although that was a guess. Time will tell.
Torque:
blackout was like 30ft tall when Prime is 28 and Megs is 32. but some places have prime listed taller, so iunno if the same goes for Blackout
Ace96:
I am declaring shenanigans.
AnimatedFan: Quote:
Originally Posted by Torque blackout was like 30ft tall when Prime is 28 and Megs is 32. but some places have prime listed taller, so iunno if the same goes for Blackout | According to the official video game guide (all systems):
Blackout: 35 (tallest)
Megatron: 33
Optimus Prime: 32
Starscream: 28
Ironhide/Ratchet: 22-25
Bumblebee/Barricade: 18-20
Jazz: 15
But it changes with every source, so who actually knows? All I care about is having Devastator be in scale with the rest of the figs. (i.e. One ginormous mofo.)
Torque: Quote:
Originally Posted by AnimatedFan According to the official video game guide (all systems):
Blackout: 35 (tallest)
Megatron: 33
Optimus Prime: 32
Starscream: 28
Ironhide/Ratchet: 22-25
Bumblebee/Barricade: 18-20
Jazz: 15
But it changes with every source, so who actually knows? All I care about is having Devastator be in scale with the rest of the figs. (i.e. One ginormous mofo.) | even for the Wii?cause thats what i thought i was quoting...id go with AnimatedFan's answers.
and Devi better be in scale, esp with himself, which is why i worry about how this will work out, as all 7 Constructicons need to be in scale with eachother to properly combine, in both toy and movie form
[Wing_Saber-X]: Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace96 I am declaring shenanigans. |  Really, Sherlock?  Bay may be the number one misinformer, i can assure you that. But, not all surely hes taking bullcrap, right? Come on, he cant go on forever, right? Torque: Quote:
Originally Posted by [Wing_Saber-X]  Really, Sherlock?  Bay may be the number one misinformer, i can assure you that. But, not all surely hes taking bullcrap, right? Come on, he cant go on forever, right?  | iunno, im beginning to doubt theres a sequel at all-i think that its all a hoax and they're gonna skip straight to Transformers 3-WDWSO (Wait Did We Skip One?)
[Wing_Saber-X]: Quote:
Originally Posted by Torque iunno, im beginning to doubt theres a sequel at all-i think that its all a hoax and they're gonna skip straight to Transformers 3-WDWSO (Wait Did We Skip One?) | Wow, sarcasm.  Seesh. Constructive critism, please. I was mearly stating that some people on the board chooseto be "thick", spew out crap and use their emotions to dictate what they write. That guy's post was obviously not helping. Divers2001:
anyone know when the TF2 toy line goes on sale??
definitely gotta grab a jerfire toy...he's gonna be sick in the new movie!!
let the anticipation continue...up next teaser/trailer
Torque: Quote:
Originally Posted by [Wing_Saber-X] Wow, sarcasm.  Seesh. Constructive critism, please. I was mearly stating that some people on the board chooseto be "thick", spew out crap and use their emotions to dictate what they write. That guy's post was obviously not helping.  | i was only makin a joke! i prbly shoulda added a smiley... maybe 2?
and cause this is a light-hearted post =D Gryph: Quote:
Originally Posted by Alienbot *Bay claims Megatron is not coming back and the tank is just a new toy. | Well duh. Everyone knows when you bring a Megatron back he turns into Galvatron. It's the rules.
Optimatron:
Damn! I want that picture of Prime, that is on Empire mag, on my desktop.
Julliant: Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimatron Damn! I want that picture of Prime, that is on Empire mag, on my desktop. | USATODAY Photo Gallery Gadfly:
Really, it only takes a few details to deduce the basic plot of this movie (and TF3):
1. The Fallen: IF "the Fallen" in the title refers to the character, then there's no point in using that character, who has a very specific identity, unless you're going to use his backstory.
2. The movie is supposedly about the origins of the Transformers.
3. We've seen images of "Megatron" (a character that looks like him); we've seen pre-release images of a toy we're told is "Megatron". Orci already said they're not sure about whether to use "Megatron" or "Galvatron." Bay's comment, if it means anything, is referring to Galvatron. To me, it seemed obvious at the end of TF1 that the Allspark would turn Megs into Galv.
4. I thought that in the first movie they said the Allspark was launched 1000 years ago, so these ancient earth TFs wouldn't have anything to do with that.
Conclusion:
The Fallen is the Fallen. Megatron will either be skipped or upgraded (or Galvatron is a separate entity who is based upon the same model as Megs).
TF3 will be about Unicron.
webz:
bet you my left kidney that Megatron IS in the film.... because.... All the illustrations leaked of book art, the CGI render leaked w/ Ravage, and other images say Bay is, once again, full of it. Told ya'll Bay can't do a misinformation campaign. He's too pathetically obvious.
Torque:
Gadfly-carbon dating from the movie thing put the cube on Earth in the BC times, so at least 3000 years
Maximus_Prime: Quote:
Originally Posted by Gadfly Really, it only takes a few details to deduce the basic plot of this movie (and TF3):
1. The Fallen: IF "the Fallen" in the title refers to the character, then there's no point in using that character, who has a very specific identity, unless you're going to use his backstory.
2. The movie is supposedly about the origins of the Transformers.
3. We've seen images of "Megatron" (a character that looks like him); we've seen pre-release images of a toy we're told is "Megatron". Orci already said they're not sure about whether to use "Megatron" or "Galvatron." Bay's comment, if it means anything, is referring to Galvatron. To me, it seemed obvious at the end of TF1 that the Allspark would turn Megs into Galv.
4. I thought that in the first movie they said the Allspark was launched 1000 years ago, so these ancient earth TFs wouldn't have anything to do with that.
Conclusion:
The Fallen is the Fallen. Megatron will either be skipped or upgraded (or Galvatron is a separate entity who is based upon the same model as Megs).
TF3 will be about Unicron. |
Actually the Allspark has been on Earth at least 10,000 years before present time. It was Megatron that landed a "few thousand years" or so before present day.
Optimus1986:
Well, maybe Megs isn't in the movie. Maybe the 'cons find his body to the chagrin of Starscream, and he conveniently pushes his body out into deep space on the trip back to Cybertron... And PLEASE don't kill Optimus! At least wait until part 3!
And just because they're making a toy of Megatron doesn't mean he's in the movie. They also made toys for both Arcee and Wreckage, but they were nowhere to be seen in TF1.
Torque: Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimus1986 Well, maybe Megs isn't in the movie. Maybe the 'cons find his body to the chagrin of Starscream, and he conveniently pushes his body out into deep space on the trip back to Cybertron... And PLEASE don't kill Optimus! At least wait until part 3!
And just because they're making a toy of Megatron doesn't mean he's in the movie. They also made toys for both Arcee and Wreckage, but they were nowhere to be seen in TF1. | true, but Arcee and Wreckage were reeeally close to being in the movie-they made their toys cause they had to have the toys list in by a certain day, so they threw them in there.though the problem is they got cut-so they had toys made (thats how i think that happened)
but with FABs, they only made the molds for characters in the movie-the rest were repaints
[Wing_Saber-X]: Quote:
Originally Posted by Torque i was only makin a joke! i prbly shoulda added a smiley... maybe 2?
and cause this is a light-hearted post =D  | Oh, okiee, we cool. Hi Q:
Which issue is this anyway? Went to the store and only found one with Wolverine on the cover.
Waveride:
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